W3LPL and other mentioned the PA temp and sagging power supply.
I didn't think to check the PA temp until later (how much later, I don't
know), If I remember correctly, it was 35C. In both cases, I was operating
in a contest (ARRL 160 and ARRL RTTY RU) with the RF power set to 100w
Sitting in
What was the PA temperature? And how are the fans set in the CONFIG menu.
Bob, K4TAX
Sent from my iPhone
> On Jan 6, 2020, at 12:15 AM, Eric Rosenberg
> wrote:
>
> In the middle of the ARRL 160 contest, my K3 stopped putting out any RF. No
> explanation that I can think of... all of
Alternatively, you might (if you feel comfortable doing so) open the
unit up and inspect it for any foreign debris that may have made its way
into the case, thus challenging the airflow design/volume/velocity.
The PA is in its own shielded enclosure, and thus relies heavily upon
the fans to
Eric Rosenberg writes:
Everything seemed fine until this weekend's ARRL RTTY Roundup. After
being on the air for about 4 hours, once again there no was RF output
Eric,
Sounds like an over temperature problem. Especially if running RTTY at
near full power. The high duty cycle of RTTY can
In the middle of the ARRL 160 contest, my K3 stopped putting out any RF.
No explanation that I can think of... all of a sudden, ZERO watts out
when the radio was keyed, either by software (N1MM+ or WSJT-X) or
pressing the TUNE button. The TX LED was lit, the meter showed audio,
which I could
alf of K9SW
> <k...@comcast.net>
> Sent: Wednesday, November 9, 2016 11:49 PM
> To: Elecraft Elecraft
> Subject: [Elecraft] K3 output power falls
>
> Maximum power output on my K3 dropped to 12 watts, for no discernible reason.
> Any handy hints about what might
To: Elecraft Elecraft
Subject: [Elecraft] K3 output power falls
Maximum power output on my K3 dropped to 12 watts, for no discernible reason.
Any handy hints about what might cause this? I haven't yet taken it apart to
check voltages
Maximum power output on my K3 dropped to 12 watts, for no discernible reason.
Any handy hints about what might cause this? I haven’t yet taken it apart to
check voltages, etc.
Dave
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On Tue,3/1/2016 12:54 PM, Bill Frantz wrote:
I have not noticed any RF noise on receive when I put it into "always
on" mode.
Hi Bill,
This is quite interesting to me. I run SO2R, so I would be concerned
about noise in the second radio while transmitting on the first. Do you
have a way to
FWIW, I power my barefoot K3 with batteries and a solar charger.
After our club county expedition for the California QSO Party
(CQP) last year, I had a new appreciation for the way low power
supply voltage could make a clean transmitter dirty.
To address this problem at home, I got a N8XJK
> From: "David via Elecraft" <elecraft@mailman.qth.net>
> To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
> Sent: 3/1/2016 5:40:46 AM
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 output power spikes
>
>> My K3 s/n 4487 has exhibited similar behaviour since I built it in 2010.
>> Des
For what it's worth, I've found over the years that battery power is less
innocent than you'd think when powering electronics. Especially on a tired
or cheap battery with a high internal resistance - those can drop a
surprising amount of voltage under load with unexpected timing, etc. even
when
Power supply stability. Built cheep, get worse with time, insufficient heat
dissipation due to endless complaints about fan noise, cut corners on
components, too small wire to rig, yada, yada, ad nauseum. Power supply
issues can cause rig overheating, spikes, slow power build up, unstable
power
I thought that one of the features of the K3/K3s was that it was able
to run, and run well, off of batteries. These power spikes makes it
sound like that is not the case? Or am I missing something?
Batteries start out at 12.6v and go down from there. The K3/K3s needs
to run well down to
Bill,
Is there any way that you can increase the power supply voltage to 13.0
volts or more during transmit? If so, that should help.
Most of my experience with power control is with the K2 which starts out
at lower than the requested power after a band change or a change in
power level, but
Not to worry, my K3S does it too :-(
On Mar 1, 2016, at 8:12 AM, Bill Hammond via Elecraft
wrote:
> Hi John,
> My power dances all over the place (my serial number is 00069). Just had a
> quick QSO with the KPA500 indicating 560 watts at the beginning and then
>
, thanks for posting this David.
Jim - W0EB
Park City, KS
-- Original Message --
From: "David via Elecraft" <elecraft@mailman.qth.net>
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Sent: 3/1/2016 5:40:46 AM
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 output power spikes
My K3 s/n 4487 has exhibited similar b
Hi John,
My power dances all over the place (my serial number is 00069). Just had a
quick QSO with the KPA500 indicating 560 watts at the beginning and then going
down to 480 at the end. That is typical. My 12 volt supply drops to 12.2 on
transmit, 13.3 on receive. I have a long 12 volt
I've noticed that the first time I TX with my KPA500 it will fault. Seems to
settle down after that. May also spoke after band change.
Sent from my iPhone
...nr4c. bill
> On Mar 1, 2016, at 12:23 AM, Vic Rosenthal wrote:
>
> Hi john,
> I think I've seen this myself. I
My K3 s/n 4487 has exhibited similar behaviour since I built it in 2010.
Despite calls to Elecraft Support no solution was found despite Gary talking
me through various items until a month or so ago when the spike was causing
problems with my amp on 24 Mhz. It was mentioned that the K3 must see
Hi john,
I think I've seen this myself. I would redo the power calibration with the K3
utility and a good dummy load. I'm interested in hearing people's responses to
your question.
Vic 4X6GP
> On 29 Feb 2016, at 10:24 PM, John K1JD wrote:
>
> Hi All,
> My K3 SN #071 was
Hi All,
My K3 SN #071 was purchased new November 2007. It’s had a few mods/upgrades
along the way and its firmware is current.
Last Field Day 2015 at W5YA, the K3’s LPA failed after a close lightning
strike. I was able to successfully repair the LPA replacing both discrete and
SMD components.
I recently began playing with PACTOR. I notice that I adjust the power
and mic gain to yield about 50 Watts and the output increases to75 Watts
or more in a minuteor so.
I set power to 95 Watts in CW, then switch to USB and increase mic gain
to yield 50 Watts, in order to avoid audio
I set power to 95 Watts in CW, then switch to USB and increase mic
gain to yield 50 Watts, in order to avoid audio distortion.
Absolutely backward with the K3. As documented time and time again,
set the power to the desired level (e.g., if you want 50W set it for
50W) and adjust the mic gain
Red,
The K3 is not like other rigs which tell you to adjust the audio level
to control the power output. If you attempt that with the K3 (or KX3
or K2) you will experience power hunting as you describe.
Follow the instructions in the manual for DATA modes. Use DATA A
submode and adjust
I hadn't used my K3 (#474) for a few days when I checked into the Elecraft SSB
net on Sunday. I immediately noticed that the Power Out bar graph was peaking
only around 60-70W. It normally peaked closer to full output on voice peaks.
Later I checked it with CW and it was still only hitting
You might calibrate the TX Gain. But it should not have changed this
quickly. Odd.
Others will have advice too.
73,
matt W6NIA
On Tue, 02 Jul 2013 15:03:59 -0500, you wrote:
I hadn't used my K3 (#474) for a few days when I checked into the Elecraft SSB
net on Sunday.
I immediately
Hi guys,
I have a problem with my K3 reading 5.0:1 or more SWR on tune into a 50 ohm
load. I was alerted to this problem when I could not get the same SWR my
analyser was showing for a new antenna, and quickly discovered the K3 had
developed a fault on all bands.
The K3 shows a high SWR into a
The K3 shows a high SWR into a pure 50 ohm load or resonant antenna
on both Ant 1 or Ant 2. I find that if I use an external SWR meter
and connect the K3 to a dummy load through that, the SWR shows high
on both the K3 and the SWR meter.
An external SWR meter can not show a fault with the
Michael,
Make sure the K3 ATU is in bypass mode, and check the SWR into your dummy
load. It sounds to me as if you have the ATU in line when you are making
this measurement.
GL,
Bruce, N1RX
The K3 shows a high SWR into a pure 50 ohm load or resonant antenna on
both Ant 1 or Ant 2.
Hi Joe, Bruce,
Make sure the K3 ATU is in bypass mode
Thanks for the tip. I had the same doubts but double checked for this. The
ATU is bypassed.
How have you checked the dummy load and patch lead? What convinces you
that they are good?
The usual stuff - continuity checks on the patch
The nose knows... follow the smoke.
Glad you found something.
GL with the repair.
-Bruce, N1RX
I can see that T4 (hidden under P70 to the ATU board)
has been scorched. The laminations have burned away on the windings and I
can see a burn on the primary turn inside. :-(
Michael,
Thanks Joe. I am exploring the K3 main board in a bit more detail
and think I have a smoking gun; I can see that T4 (hidden under P70
to the ATU board) has been scorched. The laminations have burned away
on the windings and I can see a burn on the primary turn inside. :-(
T4 looks
Hi Joe,
I agree, and I can't understand why the external SWR reading is also wrong.
Once I have reassembled the K3 I will do some more tests to see if I can get
further with that anomaly.
Many thanks to you and Bruce for you input.
Best wishes
Michael G7VJR
--
View this message in context:
I'm hoping someone else has experienced this, because it's too weird for me
to figure out.
When I QSY to 17m phone and begin to speak into the mic, I get very low
output power. The only way I can get to full output is to switch to CW and
begin transmitting, during which I see the output power
There have been several recent messages relating to
the K3's power output in the power range where the
radio switches between the exciter and the PA with
no change in power output. ... sort of a flat spot. (;-)
I wasn't very interested at the time and have deleted
them. If anyone has them,
Message-
From: James Sarte [mailto:k2qi@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, January 06, 2010 5:59 PM
To: d...@w3fpr.com
Cc: 'Elecraft'
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 output buffer modification
Hi Don,
I don't have anything that sensitive, so that's out. Perhaps I can borrow a
spectrum analyzer from
'
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 output buffer modification
Hi Don,
I don't have anything that sensitive, so that's out. Perhaps I can
borrow a
spectrum analyzer from someone near me... or just wait for the P3 to
come
out. That's the only reason I performed the mod in the first place.
BTW
; d...@w3fpr.com
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 output buffer modification
GreAt question!
73
John WD1V
Sent from my iPhone
On Jan 7, 2010, at 11:16 AM, Terry Schieler
terry.schie...@wirelessusa.com
wrote:
Did something change or am I misunderstanding Jim's post here. I
thought
: Thursday, January 07, 2010 11:17 AM
To: 'James Sarte'; d...@w3fpr.com
Cc: 'Elecraft'
Subject: RE: [Elecraft] K3 output buffer modification
Did something change or am I misunderstanding Jim's post here. I thought
that the IF Output Buffer Mod would not be necessary with the P3. If one
does
, 2010 11:17 AM
To: 'James Sarte'; d...@w3fpr.com
Cc: 'Elecraft'
Subject: RE: [Elecraft] K3 output buffer modification
Did something change or am I misunderstanding Jim's post here. I thought
that the IF Output Buffer Mod would not be necessary with the P3. If one
does the IF buffer mod
I have a K3 that has the higher gain IF output (#3460). I follow the IF
output with the Cliffton Labs buffer and then a SoftRock SDR for a panadaptor.
I use Rocky SDR software by VE3NEA for my weak signal panadapter. Power SDR for
non weak sig conditions. (mostly HF)
Since my interest is
Hello group,
Just finished installing the K3 output buffer modification this afternoon.
I used the SMD resistor, and not the leaded part. Anyway, the most
difficult aspect was soldering the replacement back on and ensuring it
didn't move. I think I was successful. I may have chipped a tiny
If you have a second receiver, you could connect it to the K3 IF output.
Tune the second receiver to 8.215 MHz and you should hear whatever the
K3 is hearing at a similar signal level. (About an S-unit lower with
the K3 preamp off, one S-unit higher with preamp on.)
Alan N1AL
On Wed,
Hi Alan,
Unfortunately, I do not have a second receiver. Is there a way I can test
output voltages with my meter - anything at all to just confirm that the
resistor is indeed working?
Anyway, the rig passed the smoke test upon turning on so that's a good start
right there.
James K2QI
On Wed,
Unfortunately you won't be able to measure an RF signal at the IF output
connector with a meter or oscilloscope unless you have a REALLY strong
signal at the K3 antenna input.
As a general sanity check, you could do a DC voltage measurement on the
JFET just to make sure it is still drawing
...@elecraft.com]
Sent: Wednesday, January 06, 2010 4:44 PM
To: James Sarte
Cc: Elecraft
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 output buffer modification
Unfortunately you won't be able to measure an RF signal at the IF output
connector with a meter or oscilloscope unless you have a REALLY strong
signal at the K3
James,
What do you propose to measure a 50 uV signal with? If you have
equipment that will measure levels that low, then well and good, but if
you are expecting to see it on an oscilloscope or RF Probe, you may as
well forget it. Recall that 50 uV is an S-9 level, and is -73 dBm which
is a
tonight.
Cheers!
James K2QI
-Original Message-
From: Don Wilhelm [mailto:w3...@embarqmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, January 06, 2010 6:37 PM
To: James Sarte
Cc: 'Elecraft'
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 output buffer modification
James,
What do you propose to measure a 50 uV signal with? If you
I installed the K3IOBUFFKT in both of my K3s yesterday. I removed the 1K SMD
chip very easily with two soldering irons. I don't think it is absolutely
necessary to use two irons, however. Like another person said, I used a small
jewelers screwdriver to hold down the new chip while tacking
Hello Elecrafters,
I would like to know how stable the output power of the 10 watt K3 is when set
to true QRP levels.
I'm asking because my K2 power setting is not very accurate when I try to set
it to anything much less than 5 watts.
Would it be possible to safely drive an external
: [Elecraft] K3 Output Power Question
To: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Date: Tuesday, May 19, 2009, 12:41 PM
Hello Elecrafters,
I would like to know how stable the output power of the 10
watt K3 is when set to true QRP levels.
I'm asking because my K2 power setting is not very
accurate when I
amp.
Plus, having a clearly resistive load might contribute to
greater power output stability for the K3.
Good luck and 73
Bob N6WG
- Original Message -
From: Bill Miner w...@yahoo.com
To: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Sent: Tuesday, May 19, 2009 12:41 PM
Subject: [Elecraft] K3 Output Power
After 5 months use my K3 has developed an output problem. The output varies
on tune or key down. If it is set on 100 watts, say on 20 meters, the out
put will start at 65 watts. It then goes up to 110 and settles at 100
watts. All this is in a span of about two seconds. It does the same at five
Ric Porter wrote:
After 5 months use my K3 has developed an output problem. The output varies
on tune or key down. If it is set on 100 watts, say on 20 meters, the out
put will start at 65 watts. It then goes up to 110 and settles at 100
watts. All this is in a span of about two seconds. It
like another reason not to actually hook it up to the amplifier.
73,
Erik K7TV
- Original Message -
From: Ric Porter r...@comporium.net
To: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Sent: Monday, May 04, 2009 4:58 AM
Subject: [Elecraft] K3 Output
After 5 months use my K3 has developed an output problem
Basilier ebasil...@cox.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 Output
To: Ric Porter r...@comporium.net, Elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Date: Monday, May 4, 2009, 12:18 PM
I have never noticed slow variations
in output during normal operations on
my K3. However, the other day I installed the external ALC
mod
Ken Kopp-3 wrote:
Readings at the 5 and 50W level appear to be unchanged
and correct on all bands. The +10-15 watt discrepancy
appears (only) at the 100W level.
I observed the same thing about a week ago just after I had performed a
recalibration:
I recently loaded beta ver. 2.80 and all seems well -except-
there now appears to be a power output vs. power indicated
difference of about 10W on all bands, including 6M.
Setting the radio at 100W on the display delivers 110-115
watts output as indicated on two Bird wattmeters that I have
, 2009 10:41 PM
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: [Elecraft] K3 Output power difference
I recently loaded beta ver. 2.80 and all seems well -except- there now
appears to be a power output vs. power indicated difference of about 10W on
all bands, including 6M.
Setting the radio at 100W
Thanks to everyone for the information on setting up the K3 for digital
modes. My low power problem was solved by running TX gain calibration and by
setting the LINE IN gain for a couple of bars on the ALC indicator. Also, I
finally realized that most wattmeters will indicate half the actual power
Jerry,
The Behringer 802 mixer is inexpensive and will do that for you (plus a
lot of other stuff)
Feed each receiver's audio into the Line IN jack below the microphone
jacks. The PAN control will be used to adjust the amount of blend you
want. In addition you will have level controls for
I am running beta 2.63/1.95 firmware. Although power output is normal in CW,
USB and LSB modes (setting SSB to operate with several bars of ALC), I can
only get about 10-20W out on PSK31 and 50-60W out on AFSK before ALC kicks
in. This is the case whether I use LINE IN or FP/RP MIC connections for
Hi Jerry,
The setup for the K3 in PSK31 is quite different from the way you set up
most other radios. See
http://n2.nabble.com/K3-Transmit-IMD-td466326.html#a466329 for an
explanation. There was a discussion about this just over a month ago on this
reflector, as a result of which I personally
Jerry,
I am confused about your saying before ALC kicks in, and it makes me
wonder if you are using enough audio gain.
The latest recommendation from Lyle is to increase the line-in gain (or
the soundcard gain) until you have 4 to 5 bars indicated on the 'ALC'
bargraph. At that level, Lyle
I thought this was corrected in a previous firmware upgrade. This apparently
is not the case. Output power still varies in the SSB mode by as much as 50%.
This shows up on the K3 ALC display and the power output display. Roy Morris
W4WFB
___
Bjorn,
I notice the same thing with my K3 S/N 775, V2.38. For me, the problem
appears to be in SSB mode, and not CW. For example, if I adjust the power
output of my K3 by a very small amount i.e. say from 50w to 52w output, it
will initially transmit much more power than 52w driving my
I notice the same thing with my K3 S/N 775, V2.38.
I haven't had a chance to test the newest firmware yet, but I have
seen somewhat similar ALC behaviour in various versions of the K3
firmware and have heard several times that Elecraft is working on
fixing it.
I do wonder to what extent
hello
the same probleme here K3 S/N 153
in ssb mode with the amplifier EMTRON DX2SP
the security overdrive
73 terry F5MOO
Kamal Sirageldin a écrit :
Bjorn,
I notice the same thing with my K3 S/N 775, V2.38. For me, the problem
appears to be in SSB mode, and not CW. For example, if I
] K3 output power unstable
hello
the same probleme here K3 S/N 153
in ssb mode with the amplifier EMTRON DX2SP the security overdrive
73 terry F5MOO
Kamal Sirageldin a écrit :
Bjorn,
I notice the same thing with my K3 S/N 775, V2.38. For me, the problem
appears to be in SSB mode, and not CW
@mailman.qth.net
Subject: RE: [Elecraft] K3 output power unstable
Hi
I´m using the same ACOM 2000 and the same think is happening here
73
Oms PY5EG
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of f5moo
Sent: Monday, September 22, 2008 11:11 AM
To: Kamal
dj7mgq wrote:
I notice the same thing with my K3 S/N 775, V2.38.
Or could other gremlins be at work, e.g. poor TX firmwarwe alignment
at 1mW, 5W and 50W? Faulty internal power and/or SWR measurements? etc.
Toby,
Interesting your speculation about firmware alignment - I can do
Stewart,
Thanks for your responce to my question. The problem is on 80 meters,
other bands seems fine. When letting my K3 cool over dinner to about
30C output it became stable again. Working the temp up a few degrees
is enough to make it go wild again. Giving the box a gentle knock on
the cabinet
I am right now in the middle of the SAC contest when I notice that the K3
has a problems keeping output power stable. I noticed some excessive high
output from the amp when investigating I found that my K3 set to drive the
amp with between 20-30 watt output depending on band, delivers
Bjorn wrote:
I am right now in the middle of the SAC contest when I notice that the K3
has a problems keeping output power stable. I noticed some excessive high
output from the amp when investigating I found that my K3 set to drive the
amp with between 20-30 watt output depending on band,
I just installed a new direct feedline on my 6m Yagi and hooking it up to
Antenna 2. When I tested it I was horrified when I saw infinity SWR on my W1
power meter. Then I realized the watt meter was not in the 6m feedline and the
rig was happily displaying a 1:1 SWR.
Hmm, that means there is
, including a
dummy load and an open. No movement. Just a data point...
73 Bud N7CW
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tom Childers, N5GE
Sent: Saturday, July 19, 2008 10:49 AM
To: Elecraft Discussion List
Subject: [Elecraft] K3 Output Isolation
I
On Sat, 19 Jul 2008 11:30:34 -0700, Bud Semon N7CW [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Tom,
I have my 6M antenna on ANT 2 and whatever HF antenna on ANT 1 all the time.
I have never seen the HF wattmeter even wiggle. The lowest power scale I
have on the power meter is 100 Watts, though. I just ran a
- Original Message -
From: Tom Childers, N5GE [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Elecraft Discussion List elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Sent: Saturday, July 19, 2008 10:48 AM
Subject: [Elecraft] K3 Output Isolation
I just installed a new direct feedline on my 6m Yagi and
hooking it up to
Antenna 2
Whilst transmitting today on CW (QSK) at full power, I've noticed on a
couple of occasions the power meter showing a fairly sudden drop in
power to around 45 or so watts. It gradually returns to full power and
then will behave normally for long periods. Each time this has happened
the radio
Stewart,
Do you have the latest firmware loaded? As I recall, there were some
changes to the power controls in the latest release which address that
very problem. If you have the latest, then try the next release.
73,
Don W3FPR
Stewart Rolfe wrote:
Whilst transmitting today on CW (QSK) at
Hi,
I asked this question here before but no one anawered it. Maybe it was
considered a dumb question.
Can the power output level of the K3/100 be individually programmed for
different bands? For example to accomodate a low drive level 6M amplifier. I
doubt it but thought I would ask as I
Harry,
You could develop a macro for this and use it in Command Mode with the
K3 Utility. Command Mode is a very useful facility for this sort of
thing.
Currently, power level sticks across bands and you'd have to reset it
by hand for 6m, or develop a standard set of macros to preset power
No at present, it just remembers the last power setting regardless of band
73 de M0XDF / K3 #174
On 23/02/2008 18:22, Harry Price [EMAIL PROTECTED] sent:
Hi,
I asked this question here before but no one anawered it. Maybe it was
considered a dumb question.
Can the power output level of
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