Re: [Elecraft] K3(S) QSK Operation

[mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of K9MA Sent: Wednesday, September 6, 2017 2:25 PM To: Bob Wilson, N6TV <n...@arrl.net>; Elecraft Reflector <Elecraft@mailman.qth.net> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3(S) QSK Operation Thanks, Bob. Yes, closing PTT allows sending at high speed. I

Re: [Elecraft] K3(S) QSK Operation

Scott, The new KSYN3A most definitely DOES resolve the old jitter issue. I updated my both of my synths as soon as the new ones were available, and even without QRQ engaged, the cw timing is jitter free. If the new KSYN3A did nothing else, I'd have still bought them just for the great cw

Re: [Elecraft] K3(S) QSK Operation

inal Message- From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of K9MA Sent: Wednesday, September 6, 2017 2:25 PM To: Bob Wilson, N6TV <n...@arrl.net>; Elecraft Reflector <Elecraft@mailman.qth.net> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3(S) QSK Operation Th

Re: [Elecraft] K3(S) QSK Operation

Thanks, Bob. Yes, closing PTT allows sending at high speed.  I rarely send at over 35 wpm, but I guess I can just turn on the PTT when I do.  (I have an actual switch for that purpose. Remember those?) Firmware is up to date. It doesn't sound like the KSYN3A will solve this problem, though,

Re: [Elecraft] K3(S) QSK Operation

The 37 WPM jitter issue is actually related to VOX timing (with either QSK or semi-breakin). If you hold the PTT line closed while transmitting, via a foot switch, software-controlled PTT, or an external keyer like a WinKey with a PTT output, you can send as fast as you like, no CW jitter, but

Re: [Elecraft] K3(S) QSK Operation

Even with the new synthesizers, the DSP noise reduction circuitry introduces latency in the QSK T/R switching, so be sure it is off for true high speed QSK. Kent K9ZTV > On Sep 5, 2017, at 10:29 PM, Victor Rosenthal 4X6GP > wrote: > > The new synthesizer solves the 37

Re: [Elecraft] K3(S) QSK Operation

The new synthesizer solves the 37 wpm problem. It also seems to speed up the QSK somewhat. I just tried it on my updated K3 and I seem to be able to hear between dits at 25 to maybe 27 wpm. 73, Victor, 4X6GP Rehovot, Israel Formerly K2VCO http://www.qsl.net/k2vco/ On 6 Sep 2017 06:19, K9MA

[Elecraft] K3(S) QSK Operation

I just learned of the "37 wpm" problem with the original K3 (non-S), which I have.  I just verified that, indeed, above 37 wpm the cw gets all messed up.  This seems to occur whether in QSK (Break-in) or PTT mode.  The problem seems to go away, at least up to 50 wpm, in the QRQ mode. A

Re: [Elecraft] K3 CW QSK improvement -- summary of early test results

Did testing new qsk This is a great improvement !! Could not imagine that my ufb working k3 line could be further improved !! My decition to go with elecraft was right Several times last years i got a new K3 just with upload new firmware :) :) With yaecomwood i would have to buy serveral

[Elecraft] K3 CW QSK improvement -- summary of early test results

We sent K3 rev. 5.01 firmware to about 50 CW operators, and we've been hearing great reports -- everything from It's like a whole new radio! to #@$*!! Why didn't you do this years ago?! :) If you were on the fence about trying the field-test release, but would now like to give it a try, email

Re: [Elecraft] K3 CW QSK improvement -- summary of early test results

: [Elecraft] K3 CW QSK improvement -- summary of early test results We sent K3 rev. 5.01 firmware to about 50 CW operators, and we've been hearing great reports -- everything from It's like a whole new radio! to #@$*!! Why didn't you do this years ago?! :) If you were on the fence about trying

Re: [Elecraft] K3 CW QSK improvement -- summary of early test results

5.01 sounds good, Wayne. It's hard to come to any conclusion until using it under a variety of band noise and signal conditions, but it seems to be an improvement. It sounds like the lost time between elements is slightly longer but the artifacts are reduced. In CWT this morning, I was able to

[Elecraft] K3 CW QSK: New algorithm ready for test that has virtually no AF artifacts

Hi all, The latest field-test firmware includes a new CW QSK algorithm that completely eliminates the K3's audio keying artifacts sometimes heard on a noisy or crowded band. With this algorithm selected, your own transmitted signal sounds like just another signal on the band. If you're an

Re: [Elecraft] K3 and QSK

I'm very interested in this topic, having raised this question a long time back. What I said in June 2011 was:- /I'm using qsk on cw and I find that if the rf gain is turned up to hear some background noise, there's a transient or click when the rig switches to rx (but not when it switches

Re: [Elecraft] K3 and QSK

Interesting indeed. First impressing when getting the K3 was: Where is this flawless QSK people are raving about. More use detected this flawlessnes frequently. I always use QSK (not QRQ version) on the K3. At some times it is absolutely wonderful, at others there are all kinds of thumps

Re: [Elecraft] K3 and QSK

Working on it. W On Dec 5, 2014, at 5:23 AM, briana als...@nc.rr.com wrote: I always use QSK (not QRQ version) on the K3. At some times it is absolutely wonderful, at others there are all kinds of thumps and clicks. __

[Elecraft] K3 and QSK

Hi Vic, With interest, I read your emails about the K3 QSK and the noise it produced and I have a question for you. I've had my K3 for about three years and I purchased it with a full complement of CW filters for both receivers, including the 8-pole 250 hz filter. I normally run my radios in full

Re: [Elecraft] K3 and QSK

Tommy, I have 8 pole filters for 400, 1000 and 2800 Hz. I am almost always using the 400 on CW. I use QRQ mode whenever possible. I found various sources of clicks including bias switching in my amplifier, and a switched power source for my Pixel Loop. I removed everything to isolate the

Re: [Elecraft] K3 and QSK

The amplitude of this click depends on the amount of noise or signals in the 'channel'. When listening to rx noise with no antenna, there's no click. The worst case is a big pileup. It would appear that the K3 is momentarily running at full gain when returning from transmit, the click being

Re: [Elecraft] K3 and QSK

Experiencing the same thing with K3 #7167. Didn't know I had a problem as I usually run my speaker out through an MFJ-784B digital filter because older radios needed help, and the external filter cleans the artifacts nicely. My K2 sounds better than my K3. I sold an Yaesu FT-2000 partly because

Re: [Elecraft] K3 and QSK

Vic Rosenthal k2vco@gmail.com wrote: Turning down either the audio or RF gain helps with both artifacts, but makes the output lower than desirable. I talked to Wayne and Lyle a long time ago about possible ways to ameliorate these noises and they had some ideas, but I haven't heard

Re: [Elecraft] K3 and QSK

Hi Wayne, That would be great. I'm new to QSK and the various noises are distracting. This past weekend in the CQ WW what I sometimes heard on 10 and 15 meters was my own signal delayed. I assume that was a globe circling echo. I don't suppose there would be a firmware solution for that

Re: [Elecraft] K3 and QSK

Did you QSL yourself? If you do that from 100 or more different countries you can qualify for the WAY (Worked All Yourself) certificate. Certain factions are laying the groundwork for that award in anticipation of the inexorable rise in remote operations looming. It is inspired by a certain

Re: [Elecraft] K3 and QSK

That is great to hear Wayne! Keep up the good work and thanks for such a great product/support! de ns9i On 12/4/2014 9:42 AM, Wayne Burdick wrote: Vic Rosenthal k2vco@gmail.com wrote: Turning down either the audio or RF gain helps with both artifacts, but makes the output lower than

Re: [Elecraft] K3 and QSK

- From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Joe Subich, W4TV Sent: Thursday, December 4, 2014 10:00 AM To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 and QSK The amplitude of this click depends on the amount of noise or signals in the 'channel'. When

Re: [Elecraft] K3 and QSK

No, AGC on/off has no effect. On 4 Dec 2014 17:00, Joe Subich, W4TV wrote: The amplitude of this click depends on the amount of noise or signals in the 'channel'. When listening to rx noise with no antenna, there's no click. The worst case is a big pileup. It would appear that the K3 is

Re: [Elecraft] K3 and QSK

One of the pieces of advice for operating the K3, is to use the minimum amount of gain in the RF/IF string. This is done by setting ATT/PRE/RF gain so that there is only a moderate amount of band noise with no signal, then setting audio for a comfortable level on signals with AGC engagement. This

Re: [Elecraft] K3 and QSK

Nor do I. ATT=ON/PRE=OFF on 160, 80, and 40 unless 40 is unusually quiet. Then I might set ATT=OFF [not common], ATT=OFF/PRE=OFF on 20, ATT=OFF/PRE=ON on 10, and sometimes PRE=ON on 15 [also not common]. I'm about 90% CW, I run QSK no QRQ most of the time, QRQ in contests. Paddle is on the

[Elecraft] K3 and QSK

I read the new K3 Quickstart Guide and noticed that with QSK button, I believe that you can only select SEMI or FULL, but no OFF. Why would I want an OFF function? I got in the habit of switching the breakin on my radio to OFF when it is unattended for a couple of reasons. One, I usually

RE: [Elecraft] K3 and QSK

In many rigs the VOX control will perform the OFF function you're looking for. With VOX off you'll need to push a Transmit button or supply an external PTT signal to activate the transmitter. I haven't read the manual yet but I bet the K3 works the same way. OFF is a very good idea when you're

RE: [Elecraft] K3 and QSK

In many rigs the VOX control will perform the OFF function you're looking for. With VOX off you'll need to push a Transmit button or supply an external PTT signal to activate the transmitter. I haven't read the manual yet but I bet the K3 works the same way. The K3 QSK button has two

RE: [Elecraft] K3 and QSK

Well...you can set it for full QSK and plug in a footswitch. Then the footswitch will switch the K3 into transmit. Of course, hitting the key without pressing the switch will still cause it to transmit, but you *can* use the footswitch (or PTT output of a computer logging program). This

[Elecraft] K3 and QSK

This was an issue with the early Orion also. As I understand it, PTT in CW was eventually implemented on the Orion. Some of the contesting software will raise PTT and delay a user specified time before keying to let the T/R switching settle. Also, on all the YaeCOMWood rigs I have used,

Re: [Elecraft] K3 and QSK

Ed Muns wrote: Well...you can set it for full QSK and plug in a footswitch. Then the footswitch will switch the K3 into transmit. Of course, hitting the key without pressing the switch will still cause it to transmit, but you *can* use the footswitch (or PTT output of a computer logging

Re: [Elecraft] K3 and QSK

Bill Coleman N2BC wrote: This was an issue with the early Orion also. As I understand it, PTT in CW was eventually implemented on the Orion. Some of the contesting software will raise PTT and delay a user specified time before keying to let the T/R switching settle. Also, on all the YaeCOMWood

Re: [Elecraft] K3 and QSK

In both contesting and DX'ing, whether CW or 'phone ... IMO ... a footswitch is the ONLY way to go. The K3 DOES have this capability, doesn't it? 73! Ken Kopp - K0PP [EMAIL PROTECTED] or [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to:

Re: [Elecraft] K3 and QSK

On Fri, Sep 21, 2007 at 04:31:46PM -, Ken Kopp wrote: In both contesting and DX'ing, whether CW or 'phone ... IMO ... a footswitch is the ONLY way to go. The K3 DOES have this capability, doesn't it? Yes. I use it that way all of the time. There is a phono jack input for PTT and a

Re: [Elecraft] K3 and QSK

YES On 21/9/07 17:31, Ken Kopp [EMAIL PROTECTED] sent: In both contesting and DX'ing, whether CW or 'phone ... IMO ... a footswitch is the ONLY way to go. The K3 DOES have this capability, doesn't it? 73! Ken Kopp - K0PP [EMAIL PROTECTED] or [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Don't look forward

Re: [Elecraft] K3 and QSK

Vic, Other than those who just like to use a footswitch, CW PTT function (inhibiting the onset of RF) is a requirement with many VHF/UHF stations, and is used as the transceiver steering mechanism for some SO2R stations. I created a CW PTT circuit to add that capability to the K2. I

Re: [Elecraft] K3 and QSK

Don Wilhelm wrote: Vic, Other than those who just like to use a footswitch, CW PTT function (inhibiting the onset of RF) is a requirement with many VHF/UHF stations, and is used as the transceiver steering mechanism for some SO2R stations. I created a CW PTT circuit to add that capability

RE: [Elecraft] K3 and QSK

No, QSK must be off for the paddle to not be live. The PTT/Footswitch works fine with QSK on. I just tried it. Why isn't this useful? Because you cannot control transmit with PTT/footswitch. Hitting the paddle puts the rig into transmit. You cannot gate (prohibit) transmit with

RE: [Elecraft] K3 and QSK

Let us be clear. There are two questions in this discussion. #1. Can you use external PTT to put the rig in CW transmit mode, bypassing both the full and semi QSK? This has been resoundly answered Yes! #2. Can you arrange for the CW key to be disabled when the foot switch is NOT pressed? I don't

RE: [Elecraft] K3 and QSK

My current understanding is that if QSK is set to OFF, the paddles do *not* initiate transmit - the footswitch can start transmit and then the paddles will function. If it does not work that way, please clarify how it does work. No. There are two states for CW on the K3: 1. QSK. 2.

RE: [Elecraft] K3 and QSK

I've only done footswitch PTT on phone. Interesting idea to do it on CW. I like the paddle disable concept. So if the footswitch controlled a relay that was inserted between the paddles and the rig, then you could use the footswitch to disable and enable the paddles. The actual TR switching

Re: [Elecraft] K3 and QSK

On Fri, Sep 21, 2007 at 12:58:52PM -0400, Don Wilhelm wrote: Other than those who just like to use a footswitch, CW PTT function (inhibiting the onset of RF) is a requirement with many VHF/UHF stations, and is used as the transceiver steering mechanism for some SO2R stations. I created a

[Elecraft] K3 and QSK

N6TR: This is an important point that I should have made before. We need an option to ignore any input on the paddle input (or CW input) unless PTT is asserted. Amen! Rather than using a Spot button, I send a few dashes from my key to hear my sidetone when zero beating someone. Less

Re: [Elecraft] K3 and QSK

- W6NEK - Original Message - From: Carl Clawson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net Sent: Friday, September 21, 2007 10:11 AM Subject: RE: [Elecraft] K3 and QSK Let us be clear. There are two questions in this discussion. #1. Can you use external PTT to put the rig in CW

Re: [Elecraft] K3 and QSK

The K2 TEST mode inhibits TX in CW, but it doesn't affect SSB or RTTY modes, only CW and TUNE. I see the K3 has a TEST button which in the quickstart is listed under SSB mode as alowing off the air adjustments. I hope it applies to all modes, including CW. For me, an across the board TEST

RE: [Elecraft] K3 and QSK

I too vote for a QSK OFF state to accomplish this -- it seems the most convenient way that I can think of My ICOM 735 uses VOX for this - it becomes KOX in CW mode. But I don't like that very well because when I switch to phone the VOX will be on and I dislike VOX. I guess that using VOX would

Re: [Elecraft] K3 and QSK

Thanks Ed on both counts. I am glad test works, and indeed I was confused about the PTT/QSK mode issue being discussed. Leiogh/EA5ZNU On Fri, 21 Sep 2007 11:20 am, Ed Muns wrote: The K2 TEST mode inhibits TX in CW, but it doesn't affect SSB or RTTY modes, only CW and TUNE. I see the K3 has a

[Elecraft] K3 and QSK

Radio Off brings back memories. A few years back, a good ham friend of ours, with whom we had a daily ragchew on the Baltimore Beltway, told us this story: Following our sometimes long ragchew on 2 meters, on one of Baltimore's famous repeaters - he drove a little farther north on his 58 mile

[Elecraft] K3 and QSK

N6TR: This is an important point that I should have made before. We need an option to ignore any input on the paddle input (or CW input) unless PTT is asserted. Amen! Rather than using a Spot button, I send a few dashes from my key to hear my sidetone when zero beating someone. Less

Re: [Elecraft] K3 and QSK

Well, the response to this was rather positive for having the ability to turn off QSK. I, like Tree, should have included the point about having PTT input for CW. Since I rarely use an amp or full breakin, I previously didn't have a need for a footswitch in CW. But I now will consider it's

Re: [Elecraft] K3 and QSK

FWIW, a good friend of mine and super CW OP/Contester/DXER (past-pres of NCCC) was a strong advocate of the CW PTT, esp if running the linear. WA6VNN Al ** See what's new at http://www.aol.com ___ Elecraft

Re: [Elecraft] K3 and QSK

For super fast contesting I don't see how one could beat the combination of a QSK amplifier and a QSK rig. I must be missing something. de Joe aa4nn -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sep 21, 2007 7:12 PM To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 and QSK FWIW

Re: [Elecraft] K3 and QSK

could beat the combination of a QSK amplifier and a QSK rig. I must be missing something. de Joe aa4nn -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sep 21, 2007 7:12 PM To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 and QSK FWIW, a good friend of mine and super CW OP

RE: [Elecraft] K3 and QSK

The K2 TEST mode inhibits TX in CW, but it doesn't affect SSB or RTTY modes, only CW and TUNE. I see the K3 has a TEST button which in the quickstart is listed under SSB mode as alowing off the air adjustments. I hope it applies to all modes, including CW. Yes, the TX/TEST feature in