I kinda felt that the K3 had a raspy and brash sound until recently when
I installed a filter that Elecraft has been testing. This filter helped
my K3 sound a lot more like my K1 and for that I'm quite happy. You
guys will also be happy if Elecraft kicks the board out as it allows you
to melt
What would be slick is to see the I/O board with a PCM2902 on it as
well. Most operating systems have drivers for this IC and it just shows
up as a sound card. So if a 2902 and a FTDIChip were plopped down and
tied to a hub you could have the radio when plugged in show up on most
computers
: Tuesday, June 16, 2009 2:33 PM
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 vs. Icom IC-7600
can't understand why the K3 didn't
come with a USB port instead of the outdated com port.
I can't speak on behalf of Elecraft but for the majority of us, it's a
simple matter to convert from serial to USB
Bring it on!
Regards,
Mike VP8NO
- Original Message -
From: Brett Howard br...@livecomputers.com
To: Dave G4AON elecr...@astromag.co.uk
Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Sent: Sunday, June 21, 2009 4:24 PM
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 vs. Icom IC-7600
|I kinda felt that the K3 had a raspy
Tell us more about this filter!
Bob NW8L
On Sun, Jun 21, 2009 at 2:24 PM, Brett Howardbr...@livecomputers.com wrote:
I kinda felt that the K3 had a raspy and brash sound until recently when
I installed a filter that Elecraft has been testing. This filter helped
my K3 sound a lot more like my
burdick
Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 vs. Icom IC-7600
What would be slick is to see the I/O board with a PCM2902 on
it as well. Most operating systems have drivers for this IC
and it just shows up as a sound card. So if a 2902 and a
FTDIChip were plopped
Joe Subich, W4TV wrote:
For those who would want USB support for the K3 ... the cost
and red tape required for Windows Certification are very
significant for a small company.
Also, it is an ongoing cost. Most vendors nowadays support at most two
generations of Windows. I've just
Plus there will shortly be a USB 3.0 spec. I don't know if the connectors
will be the same, or how backward compatible it will be with USB 2.0 (I
assume 100%).
There's a danger of linking your radio too closely to the world of PC's; the
rate of technological change is incredible, and the rate of
Guy, K2AV wrote:
If the Elecraft guys want to do something serious and high speed, then let
them use the Ethernet jack. I'd like to see an ethernet interface module
option so I can directly remote to it from a computer. Or an 811g
wireless
module for the same purpose.
I can
I think something like this could be developed as a small standalone box
using a board that runs embedded Linux. It would have Ethernet on one side
running Apache for the web interface, and serial plus audio connections on
the other.
You might want to take a look at http://www.ethernut.de/. I
Doug,
From a European perspective, and this is a personal opinion, while the 3rd
Order dynamic range performance at 2kHz is certainly very important, it is
the Spurious Free 3rd Order dynamic range at spacings less than the IF
bandwidth that really matters, i.e. both test signals INSIDE the IF
I understand that the present bar for in-passband Spurious Free 3rd
Order dynamic range is 120db, set in 2007, but not on the market.
You are, I think, referring to
http://www.xs4all.nl/~martein/pa3ake/hmode/ and the work done by
CDG2000 group. Imho, Martein's site is really worth
Toby dj7...@muenchen-mail.de wrote:
You are, I think, referring to
http://www.xs4all.nl/~martein/pa3ake/hmode/ and the work done by
CDG2000 group. Imho, Martein's site is really worth reading.
Hi Toby,
Yes, followed by a large spurious free IMDDR3 IF system whose noise figure
is 2db.
73,
Two weeks ago, in my friend's shack I compared K3,IC7700,IC7800(by ear
ONLY), since there are no major contest in that day, so I can't say
anything about dynamic range or something like that.
IMHO, ic7700's DSP is best, 7800 DSP also better than K3. [A/B compare
NR NB and DSP filter
needed. Several users are running MixW in this
fashion.
Steve Ellington
n...@carolina.rr.com
- Original Message -
From: Dave G4AON elecr...@astromag.co.uk
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Sent: Tuesday, June 16, 2009 1:48 PM
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 vs. Icom IC-7600
The IC7600
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Sent: Tuesday, June 16, 2009 1:48 PM
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 vs. Icom IC-7600
The IC7600 was reviewed by Peter Hart, G3SJX, in June's RSGB RadCom. The
receiver performance is mediocre, only at 50 KHz signal spacing does the
7600 have 104 dB of dynamic range. At 3 KHz
: Tuesday, June 16, 2009 1:48 PM
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 vs. Icom IC-7600
The IC7600 was reviewed by Peter Hart, G3SJX, in June's RSGB RadCom.
The
receiver performance is mediocre, only at 50 KHz signal spacing does
the
7600 have 104 dB of dynamic range. At 3 KHz spacing it was noise
limited
Thanks! I looked on their site and didn't see the link to the wiring
diagrams. Will look closer this time. Figured I'd try it out, although I'm
happy with my current interfaces.
Here they are: http://www.microham.com/contents/en-us/d145.html
vy 73 de toby
On Wed, Jun 17, 2009 at 07:13, Paul Christensenw...@arrl.net wrote:
Two weeks ago, in my friend's shack I compared K3,IC7700,IC7800(by ear
ONLY), since there are no major contest in that day, so I can't say
anything about dynamic range or something like that.
IMHO, ic7700's DSP is best, 7800
10:24 AM
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 vs. Icom IC-7600
I picked up a microham USB Interface II this past weekend. It
has a cable for a FT1000. I would assume all that needs to be
done to make this work with a K3 is provide the appropriate
connector adapters
://www.k4ro.net/tcg/index.html
Tennessee QSO Party: Sunday, 6 Sept 2009
http://www.tnqp.org/
Elecraft K2/100 #4455
Elecraft K3/100 #366
--- On Wed, 6/17/09, Joe Subich, W4TV li...@subich.com wrote:
From: Joe Subich, W4TV li...@subich.com
Subject: RE: [Elecraft] K3 vs. Icom IC-7600
To: 'Julius
is no longer needed. Several users are running MixW in this
fashion.
Steve Ellington
n...@carolina.rr.com
- Original Message -
From: Dave G4AON elecr...@astromag.co.uk
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Sent: Tuesday, June 16, 2009 1:48 PM
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 vs. Icom IC-7600
Universal radio lists the radio as having
104dB dynamic range and +30dbm 3rd order intercept point .
Maybe it will soon make the top of Sherwood's list.
However, I do not see any mention of diversity receive.
--
View this message in context:
Unlikely since thy use a high first IF with their narrowest roofing
filter at 3 kHz. signals inside that filter will overload the first
mixer and subsequent stages, well before any later crystal or DSP
filtering can do any good.
73, Eric WA6HHQ
HowardZ wrote:
Universal radio lists the
The IC7600 was reviewed by Peter Hart, G3SJX, in June's RSGB RadCom. The
receiver performance is mediocre, only at 50 KHz signal spacing does the
7600 have 104 dB of dynamic range. At 3 KHz spacing it was noise
limited, at 5 KHz spacing Peter squeezed 87 dB by using the 15 KHz
roofing filter, but
in this
fashion.
Steve Ellington
n...@carolina.rr.com
- Original Message -
From: Dave G4AON elecr...@astromag.co.uk
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Sent: Tuesday, June 16, 2009 1:48 PM
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 vs. Icom IC-7600
The IC7600 was reviewed by Peter Hart, G3SJX, in June's RSGB RadCom
Yeah...at what spacing?
From the ARRL pages, for the IC7800 (I don't think anyone is saying
teh 7600 is better than the 7800, but I could be wrong)
At 2kc, 3rd order dynamic range for 7800 =86 db; for the K3=103db
At 2kc, 3rd order intercept for 7800 = 21 dbm; for the K3=28dbm
At 20kc
Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft wrote:
Unlikely since thy use a high first IF with their narrowest roofing
filter at 3 kHz. signals inside that filter will overload the first
mixer and subsequent stages, well before any later crystal or DSP
Icom may be the master of misleading
[mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Steve Ellington
Sent: Tuesday, June 16, 2009 12:56 PM
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 vs. Icom IC-7600
No doubt the K3 performs better but there is one feature on the 7600 that is
nice, the USB port. You can run digital modes from
MixW in this
fashion.
Steve Ellington
n...@carolina.rr.com
- Original Message -
From: Dave G4AON elecr...@astromag.co.uk
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Sent: Tuesday, June 16, 2009 1:48 PM
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 vs. Icom IC-7600
The IC7600 was reviewed by Peter Hart, G3SJX
Dan Copeland wrote:
can't understand why the K3 didn't
come with a USB port instead of the outdated com port.
The KIO3's digital I/O module could be replaced with one that has USB
rather than RS232 -- or better yet, both. We planned for this.
The reason we went with RS232 initially is
: Re: [Elecraft] K3 vs. Icom IC-7600
That feature can be had on almost any radio, K3 included. I have got
Microham MicrokeyerII and now I can do with just one USB connection to
computer. That includes audio, CAT, PTT,CW,FSK. In addition Microkeyer has
winkey built in and PTT sequencer
Because an RS232 port is much more nearly universal. Because it's pretty
easy to add USB support to a serial port and a problem to add
serial support to a USB port. And, if you really want a USB port with
sound card included, design one, or get one of the several vendors of
standalone boxes that
[mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Steve Ellington
Sent: Tuesday, June 16, 2009 12:56 PM
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 vs. Icom IC-7600
No doubt the K3 performs better but there is one feature on the 7600 that is
nice, the USB port. You can run digital
can't understand why the K3 didn't
come with a USB port instead of the outdated com port.
I can't speak on behalf of Elecraft but for the majority of us, it's a
simple matter to convert from serial to USB and more difficult to convert in
the opposite direction.
USB ports are not nearly
: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net
[mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Steve Ellington
Sent: Tuesday, June 16, 2009 12:56 PM
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 vs. Icom IC-7600
No doubt the K3 performs better but there is one feature on the 7600 that
is
nice
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Sent: Tuesday, June 16, 2009 2:33 PM
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 vs. Icom IC-7600
can't understand why the K3 didn't
come with a USB port instead of the outdated com port.
I can't speak on behalf of Elecraft but for the majority of us, it's a
simple matter to convert from
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[mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Brendan Minish
Sent: Tuesday, June 16, 2009 2:29 PM
To: Dan Copeland
Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 vs. Icom IC-7600
On Tue, 2009-06-16 at 13:11 -0500, Dan Copeland wrote:
I still for the life of me can't
Ellington
Sent: Tuesday, June 16, 2009 1:56 PM
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 vs. Icom IC-7600
No doubt the K3 performs better but there is one feature on
the 7600 that is nice, the USB port. You can run digital
modes from the pc with only one USB cable which
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主題: [Elecraft] K3 vs. Icom IC-7600
收件人: Elecraft Reflector elecraft@mailman.qth.net
日期: 2009年6月17日,星期三,上午1:58
Yeah...at what spacing?
From the ARRL pages, for the IC7800 (I don't think anyone is saying
teh 7600 is better than the 7800, but I
: [Elecraft] K3 vs. Icom IC-7600
Hello Gentleman,
It is interested in reading all your comments. Just look at another side of a
coin. If you post the same question K3 vs IC7600 in the mail reflector of
IC7600, perhaps you will get another set of answers.
73
Johnny Siu VR2XMC
--- 2009年6月17日 星期三
- WA6HHQ, Elecraft e...@elecraft.com wrote:
From: Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft e...@elecraft.com
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 vs. Icom IC-7600
To: HowardZ howa...@howardz.com
Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Date: Tuesday, June 16, 2009, 10:27 AM
Unlikely since thy use a high first
, Elecraft e...@elecraft.com
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 vs. Icom IC-7600
To: HowardZ howa...@howardz.com
Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Date: Tuesday, June 16, 2009, 10:27 AM
Unlikely since thy use a high first IF with their narrowest roofing
filter at 3 kHz. signals inside that filter
can't understand why the K3 didn't
come with a USB port instead of the outdated com port.
You don't want a USB port if you want to do anything circuit wise external
to the K3 using CTS/DTR leads not used for serial signal. If the ONLY thing
you EVER want to do with the serial port is
Hello all,
Two weeks ago, in my friend's shack I compared K3,IC7700,IC7800(by ear
ONLY), since there are no major contest in that day, so I can't say
anything about dynamic range or something like that.
IMHO, ic7700's DSP is best, 7800 DSP also better than K3. [A/B compare
NR NB and
lowb...@gmail.com
主題: Re: [Elecraft] K3 vs. Icom IC-7600
收件人: Dave G4AON elecr...@astromag.co.uk
副本(CC): elecraft@mailman.qth.net
日期: 2009年6月17日,星期三,上午9:36
Hello all,
Two weeks ago, in my friend's shack I compared K3,IC7700,IC7800(by ear
ONLY), since there are no major contest in that day
to LP-bridge.
73, Igor UA9CDC
- Original Message -
From: Steve Ellington n...@carolina.rr.com
To: Igor Sokolov ua9...@gmail.com; elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Sent: Wednesday, June 17, 2009 12:26 AM
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 vs. Icom IC-7600
Errr...How do U get the audio from the rig
There's an interesting IC-7600 review on eHam where RFEXPERT is
comparing his new IC-7600 with his K3.
http://www.eham.net/reviews/detail/7775
73 Dave, G4AON
K3/100 #80
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, 2009 8:20 AM
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: [Elecraft] K3 vs. Icom IC-7600
There's an interesting IC-7600 review on eHam where RFEXPERT is
comparing his new IC-7600 with his K3.
http://www.eham.net/reviews/detail/7775
73 Dave, G4AON
K3/100 #80
and unverifiable.
73,
Bob W5OV
-Original Message-
From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net
[mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Mark
Sent: Sunday, April 05, 2009 9:41 AM
To: Elecraft Reflector
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 vs. Icom IC-7600
Not necessary.
Everyone is allowed
Reflector
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 vs. Icom IC-7600
Not necessary.
Everyone is allowed to make their biased analysis.
If you read carefully you will notice he mentions good and bad points
for both models.
And his comment is either 'recognizeable' or not.
I do not need his name, I
We beat this review to death two months ago. Check the archives.
Joe Subich, W4TV wrote:
Everyone is allowed to make their biased analysis.
Compared with the K3, the 7600 is overpriced and lacking.
Dual Watch is a joke compared to the KRX3 and even with
USB pasted over the CI-V
No, that was his review of the IC-7700. The subject review of the
IC-7600 was just posted yesterday.
Bob NW8L
On Sun, Apr 5, 2009 at 9:23 AM, SidShusterman k...@comcast.net wrote:
We beat this review to death two months ago. Check the archives.
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