Re: [Elecraft] K4 training

2020-08-08 Thread Jim Brown
On 8/8/2020 5:15 AM, Rich NE1EE wrote: I don't need a printed manual with my device. I think that they can look nice and be useful, though. I do appreciate a PDF that is not write protected, so that I can make my own notes and correct mistakes. I also appreciate a manual that is updated

Re: [Elecraft] K4 training

2020-08-08 Thread Rich NE1EE
On 2020-08-05 03:06:-0700, RICHARD Martin wrote: >A how to video would be a very nice feature, but we must remember the cost >of developing such a thing when our friends at Elecraft have to be in >desperate need of cash. >... >Thru most of my professional life, I have been responsible for the

Re: [Elecraft] K4 training

2020-08-08 Thread Rich NE1EE
On 2020-08-07 21:21:-0400, Bill Frantz wrote: >With the manual online, and support for jumping to the relevant section, it >will be better than what I have with the K3, where the manual is on my >computer and I have to text search for the relevant section. The neat thing is >that the online

Re: [Elecraft] K4 training

2020-08-07 Thread Bill Frantz
Thanks Wayne. With the manual online, and support for jumping to the relevant section, it will be better than what I have with the K3, where the manual is on my computer and I have to text search for the relevant section. The neat thing is that the online manual can be automatically updated

Re: [Elecraft] K4 training

2020-08-07 Thread Buck
Wayne, you think of everything. Buck, k4ia Honor Roll 8BDXCC EasyWayHamBooks.com On 8/7/2020 2:10 PM, Wayne Burdick wrote: Hi Bill, Yes, the built-in Info System (accessed by tapping the "?" button) is a unique feature of the K4. We're refining it as we go along. It will be available for

Re: [Elecraft] K4 training

2020-08-07 Thread Wayne Burdick
Hi Bill, Yes, the built-in Info System (accessed by tapping the "?" button) is a unique feature of the K4. We're refining it as we go along. It will be available for preview/comment at some point. 73, Wayne N6KR > On Aug 7, 2020, at 10:57 AM, Bill Frantz wrote: > > I have a vague memory

Re: [Elecraft] K4 training

2020-08-07 Thread Rick Tavan
The "?" Help trigger is there but I think the text is pending completion of the manual on which it will be based. /Rick N6XI On Fri, Aug 7, 2020 at 10:57 AM Bill Frantz wrote: > I have a vague memory that the K4 was supposed to include a > built-in help system. I can see it as being just

Re: [Elecraft] K4 training

2020-08-07 Thread Bill Frantz
I have a vague memory that the K4 was supposed to include a built-in help system. I can see it as being just showing the relevant section of the manual, but it might be different. Is it currently available, or is it waiting for the manual. or is something different? 73 Bill AE6JV On 8/7/20

Re: [Elecraft] K4 training

2020-08-07 Thread Rick Tavan
Video tutorials would be a good idea, Gary. I wouldn't encourage Elecraft to delay K4 shipment until they are available, though. I suspect owner-produced vids will surface quickly and will be helpful for some. For what it's worth, as an experienced K3 user, I felt comfortable with my field test

[Elecraft] K4 Training

2020-08-06 Thread Dauer, Edward
Not to mention being completely baffled about why (or even the fact that) a transmitter's PA tube (a what?) plate current should be dipped rather than maxed. Ted, KN1CBR (remembering his 1956 DX-20 and 1958 Viking Ranger) -- Message: 3 Date: Wed, 5 Aug 2020

Re: [Elecraft] K4 training

2020-08-06 Thread Ken B via Elecraft
I as well have a K4 on deposit and think a "get it working" 5-10 page instruction would be really nice, as well as a searchable complete manual. Guessing youtube videos will come with time just as it did on the K3.  Can hardly wait for the K4 - maybe a surprise under the tree.  Thank you Ken 

Re: [Elecraft] K4 training

2020-08-06 Thread Gordon LaPoint
I do have a K4 on order, and I agree with Andy, I'd much rather have a searchable pdf manual than a video!!! Thanks Elecraft for the fine radios that I now own, and the coming K4! Gordon - N1MGO On 8/5/2020 20:12 PM, Andy Durbin wrote: I transitioned, with a 40 year gap, from an AR88D and

[Elecraft] K4 training

2020-08-05 Thread Andy Durbin
I transitioned, with a 40 year gap, from an AR88D and home brew CW/AM transmitter with a TT11 final to an TS-590S. No problem at all reading the manual and getting it working. I even found several firmware defects in the first few months of ownership.I recognize that not everyone has an

Re: [Elecraft] K4 training

2020-08-05 Thread Jim Brown
On 8/5/2020 12:39 PM, Grant Youngman wrote: We agree. But the transition from one essentially modern radio to another, is still mostly a matter of figuring out what each control does, where it is, how to read the display, and where to connect the antenna. The exception I’d make is that if

Re: [Elecraft] K4 training

2020-08-05 Thread Grant Youngman
We agree. But the transition from one essentially modern radio to another, is still mostly a matter of figuring out what each control does, where it is, how to read the display, and where to connect the antenna. The exception I’d make is that if you gave a recently minted ham (or not) a Globe

Re: [Elecraft] K4 training

2020-08-05 Thread Jim Brown
On 8/5/2020 10:40 AM, Grant Youngman wrote: It seems to me that if you need training classes or training videos to effectively use a radio, then that’s a problem — either with the radio’s owner (and I mean no disrespect to anyone) or with the radio. I agree, but with this caveat. Each radio

Re: [Elecraft] K4 training

2020-08-05 Thread Grant Youngman
It seems to me that if you need training classes or training videos to effectively use a radio, then that’s a problem — either with the radio’s owner (and I mean no disrespect to anyone) or with the radio. Elecraft will no doubt release some user tips for certain aspects of operation, just

Re: [Elecraft] K4 training

2020-08-05 Thread Charlie T
g...@ka1j.com; Elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K4 training Gary, This would indeed be an asset.Wonder how much effort this would take.73 Doug EI2CNSent from my Samsung Galaxy smartphone. __ Elecraft mailing l

Re: [Elecraft] K4 training

2020-08-05 Thread RICHARD Martin
net Subject: Re: > [Elecraft] K4 training Yes, That's the current way of things. What I > suggest would be more like an on-line video operator's manual sanctioned by > Elecraft, with logical menu to find the how-to, exactly, the function you > want being done.I'm not thinking so muc

Re: [Elecraft] K4 training

2020-08-05 Thread turnbull
Gary, This would indeed be an asset.    Wonder how much effort this would take.73 Doug EI2CNSent from my Samsung Galaxy smartphone. Original message From: Gary Smith Date: 05/08/2020 03:07 (GMT+00:00) To: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K4 training Yes

Re: [Elecraft] K4 training

2020-08-04 Thread Gary Smith
quot;Are we there yet?"Hang in there > > good ship Elecraft.73 Doug EI2CNPS Now feel for our friends who do > > not speak English.    That is the majority of mankind.Sent from my > > Samsung Galaxy smartphone. Original message From: > > Gary Smith Date:

Re: [Elecraft] K4 training

2020-08-04 Thread Grant Youngman
Good stuff. Grant NQ5T > On Aug 4, 2020, at 1:12 PM, Josh Fiden wrote: > > I see Elecraft has a youtube channel with 3 videos uploaded in the last few > days. If we all subscribe to their channel that will be good incentive for > them to produce content! > >

Re: [Elecraft] K4 training

2020-08-04 Thread Josh Fiden
I see Elecraft has a youtube channel with 3 videos uploaded in the last few days. If we all subscribe to their channel that will be good incentive for them to produce content! https://m.youtube.com/channel/UCgPCrQYQttH83UWwZi_q4xQ 73 Josh W6XU Sent from my mobile device

Re: [Elecraft] K4 training

2020-08-04 Thread stephen shearer
e. Original message From: Gary Smith Date: 04/08/2020 07:05 (GMT+00:00) To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: [Elecraft] K4 training I would really like it if when the K4 is released, there were also released on the same day, training videos showing what to push, what to enter, a

Re: [Elecraft] K4 training

2020-08-04 Thread turnbull
ak English.    That is the majority of mankind.Sent from my Samsung Galaxy smartphone. Original message From: Gary Smith Date: 04/08/2020 07:05 (GMT+00:00) To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: [Elecraft] K4 training I would really like it if when the K4 is released, there were also released o

[Elecraft] K4 training

2020-08-04 Thread Gary Smith
I would really like it if when the K4 is released, there were also released on the same day, training videos showing what to push, what to enter, a how-to set of videos covering different topics of interest. Either a bunch of short ones on a web page, sorted by topic & exactly to the