RE: [Elecraft] KAT100 with Ladder Line

2007-11-30 Thread Steve Kallal
range. 73, Steve N6VL K2 #2289 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Goody K3NG Sent: Thursday, November 15, 2007 11:00 AM To: Elecraft List Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KAT100 with Ladder Line Using any balun with an unbalanced tuner to feed balanced

[Elecraft] KAT100 with Ladder Line

2007-11-17 Thread Joe-aa4nn
It can be quite tedious to build one's own ladder line. Wire size and spacing between wires is a critical factor in determining the resulting impedance of the line. Maintaining consistent spacing between wires is difficult. For closely spaced wires (eg. 1.5 to 2.0 inch for 450 ohm) slight

RE: [Elecraft] KAT100 with Ladder Line

2007-11-17 Thread Craig D. Smith
It can be quite tedious to build one's own ladder line. Wire size and spacing between wires is a critical factor in determining the resulting impedance of the line. Maintaining consistent spacing between wires is difficult. All of this is quite true. But let me play devil's advocate. I

Re: [Elecraft] KAT100 with Ladder Line

2007-11-17 Thread Don Wilhelm
I have not seen it mentioned yet, but the best installation of open wire line will tension the conductors between 2 supports. That means fewer spacers are required because the tensioned wires do not sway as much in the wind. For my part, PVC spacers are easy to construct and inexpensive.

Re: [Elecraft] KAT100 with Ladder Line

2007-11-15 Thread Don Wilhelm
Curt, There seems to be a misconception among hams that when using 450 ladder line, a 4:1 balun is the best thing to use. While that may be true in some cases, in many other cases, a 1:1 balun will serve better. It all depends on the feedpoint impedance of the feedline at the shack end, and

[Elecraft] KAT100 with Ladder Line

2007-11-15 Thread Curt Milton
I admit I enjoyed using a KAT100 at FD, but I wonder how much value it would be at my station. For feeding my wire antenna with balanced line, I suspect I need an external balun, that has to go someplace, and better to be attached to one of the tuner inputs. Currently I use a manual MFJ tuner

RE: [Elecraft] KAT100 with Ladder Line

2007-11-15 Thread Craig Rairdin
] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Curt Milton Sent: Thursday, November 15, 2007 11:50 AM To: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: [Elecraft] KAT100 with Ladder Line I admit I enjoyed using a KAT100 at FD, but I wonder how much value it would be at my station. For feeding my wire antenna

Re: [Elecraft] KAT100 with Ladder Line

2007-11-15 Thread Goody K3NG
Using any balun with an unbalanced tuner to feed balanced line can be bad news (your mileage may vary, standard disclaimers apply). Under highly reactive loads, a balun used like this can become quite lossy. There's a couple articles in publications and on the Internet on this, but Cebik's

Re: [Elecraft] KAT100 with Ladder Line

2007-11-15 Thread Geoffrey Mackenzie-Kennedy
On Thursday, November 15, 2007 at 7:00 PM, Goody K3NG wrote: Using any balun with an unbalanced tuner to feed balanced line can be bad news (your mileage may vary, standard disclaimers apply). Under highly reactive loads, a balun used like this can become quite lossy. There's a couple

Re: [Elecraft] KAT100 with Ladder Line

2007-11-15 Thread Don Wilhelm
You are quite correct. My favorite tuner of all is a link coupled balanced tuner, and it is L B Cebik's favorite too - low loss and can be configured to match just about anything - series tuning for low impedances or parallel for higher impedances. I have built many over the years. No balun

Re: [Elecraft] KAT100 with Ladder Line

2007-11-15 Thread w2bvh
I've been using Cecil Moore's (W6RCA) No-Tuner with 450 ohm ladder line for about 7 years along with a K2 / KAT-2 and it has been a pleasure to use and pretty effective. It's basically a box of 5 4pdt relays out in the yard that switches in/out combinations of 16, 8, 4, 2 and 1 foot lengths

Re: [Elecraft] KAT100 with Ladder Line

2007-11-15 Thread Lamb, Dick Judy
I've been very pleased with my MFJ-974, a true balanced tuner. My measurements of feedline current with RF ammeters indicate that overall it is as efficient as my home brew link coupled tuner with plug in coils. I've used the MFJ tuner with several combinations of feedline lengths and