Re: [Elecraft] Macintosh version of Elecraft KX3 Utility

2019-03-30 Thread Barry Baines via Elecraft
Andy: > On Mar 29, 2019, at 5:56 PM, Andy McMullin via Elecraft > wrote: snip... > > > > I’m sure there’s something in the works but I see nothing from the developers > themselves to say so and the next version of MacOS seems to be only weeks > away. Apple has a tradition of announcing

Re: [Elecraft] Macintosh version of Elecraft KX3 Utility

2019-03-30 Thread stanz...@sbcglobal.net
In addition to Elecraft's Mac software, I have expensive apps that will not work under the next Mac OS. They work for me fine now and I don't want to spend thousands of dollars to upgrade to new versions of those apps just so they will work under the next Mac OS. I don't need no stinkin' new

Re: [Elecraft] Macintosh version of Elecraft KX3 Utility

2019-03-30 Thread Jack Brindle via Elecraft
Unless you are a developer, weeks is measured in double digits. The new version of macOS will presumably be announced at Apple’s WWDC in San Jose the first week of June. It will not be out as a full release until September or October which is the real time frame of concern. Unless you value

Re: [Elecraft] Macintosh version of Elecraft KX3 Utility

2019-03-30 Thread Keith Onishi
No, I just “hoped”. In general, one can wait updating an operating system until his/her essential softwares become compatible to the new version of operating system. 73 de JH3SIF, Keith > 2019/03/30 7:56、Andy McMullin のメール: > > I’m sorry Keith but is there any evidence to support that

Re: [Elecraft] Macintosh version of Elecraft KX3 Utility

2019-03-29 Thread Andy McMullin via Elecraft
I’m sorry Keith but is there any evidence to support that assertion. That a 64 bit version will be available before the next MacOS revision is released? I know it’s a nice thing to think. But have the developers said that’s what’s happening? They seem to be completely missing from this thread.

Re: [Elecraft] Macintosh version of Elecraft KX3 Utility

2019-03-29 Thread Keith Onishi
K3 Utility is 64 bit version but other Elecraft utilities are 32 bit version. So, I guess the 32 bit versions will be migrated to 64 bit version later but before the future MacOS is released. 73 de JH3SIF, Keith > 2019/03/29 0:17、Don Wilhelm のメール: > > My understanding is that a 64 bit version

Re: [Elecraft] Macintosh version of Elecraft KX3 Utility

2019-03-28 Thread Don Wilhelm
My understanding is that a 64 bit version of the Mac and Linux Utilities is "in the making". But for now, you will have to put up with the messages from Apple that the current Utility will not work on the next OS release. 73, Don W3FPR On 3/27/2019 7:15 PM, Jack Brindle via Elecraft wrote:

Re: [Elecraft] Macintosh version of Elecraft KX3 Utility

2019-03-28 Thread David Woolley
I assume you mean that has been compiled for, as if you can compile it you can probably compile if for many different architectures. However ARM is not a single machine type. There are many different ARM family devices with different instruction sets. You would probably want a specific

Re: [Elecraft] Macintosh version of Elecraft KX3 Utility

2019-03-27 Thread Steve via Elecraft
I have always used the latest version of Raspberian. Now its raspbian stretch. https://www.raspberrypi.org/downloads/raspbian/ I have an 8 AH 12 volt SLA battery and a small 12 to 5 volt converter for the PI . The battery is also the supply for my KX3 and can recharge an HT. I would be

Re: [Elecraft] Macintosh version of Elecraft KX3 Utility

2019-03-27 Thread Terry
What OS are you using on the RPi? Terry, KQ5U On 3/27/2019 6:01 PM, Steve via Elecraft wrote: I have a Raspberry Pi in a go box with APRS software and a program called Chirp. Chirp can program a whole slew of different radios (Not Elecraft) :-(. In Chirp I have files that have all the local

Re: [Elecraft] Macintosh version of Elecraft KX3 Utility

2019-03-27 Thread Jack Brindle via Elecraft
Guys; Realize that Mac versions of the utilities are important to us “insiders” also. This is something that will be addressed in due time. 73! Jack, W6FB > On Mar 27, 2019, at 2:28 PM, Grant Youngman wrote: > > It’s kind of the way things go. I’d like to be able to run some 8-bit Z-80 >

Re: [Elecraft] Macintosh version of Elecraft KX3 Utility

2019-03-27 Thread Jim Brown
On 3/27/2019 2:23 PM, Wes wrote: My two shack computers and my office desktop still run Win 7 Pro.  To run my N2PK VNA, I have a laptop with a parallel port running WinXP Yep. I still have vintage Thinkpads left over from my days in biz that are running XP Pro; one of them runs my VNWA, and

Re: [Elecraft] Macintosh version of Elecraft KX3 Utility

2019-03-27 Thread Steve via Elecraft
I have a Raspberry Pi in a go box with APRS software and a program called Chirp. Chirp can program a whole slew of different radios (Not Elecraft) :-(. In Chirp I have files that have all the local repeaters and can install them as needed. I would love to add Elecraft utilities to my Pi. Steve

Re: [Elecraft] Macintosh version of Elecraft KX3 Utility

2019-03-27 Thread Wes
Andy, Maybe for some, but my eyes glaze over when you start talking about that stuff.  I've already experienced the sunk costs for the old hardware. Wes On 3/27/2019 3:13 PM, Andy McMullin wrote: Wes, I wonder if a better answer would be to push for versions of the utilities that compile

Re: [Elecraft] Macintosh version of Elecraft KX3 Utility

2019-03-27 Thread David Thompson via Elecraft
What a wonderful idea… I’m thinking about adding a Pi to my shack/field kit to handle a number of chores without needing a larger computer. David Thompson Jack of All Trades Master of None dbthomp...@me.com > On Mar 27, 2019, at 15:13, Andy McMullin wrote: > > Wes, > > I wonder if a better

Re: [Elecraft] Macintosh version of Elecraft KX3 Utility

2019-03-27 Thread Andy McMullin
Wes, I wonder if a better answer would be to push for versions of the utilities that compile on an ARM chip so that it could be run on a Raspberry Pi. Particularly as it’s already been compiled for an X86 under Linux, so all the libraries should be there. I don’t think many of us would worry

Re: [Elecraft] Macintosh version of Elecraft KX3 Utility

2019-03-27 Thread Andy McMullin
At least with Apps running in FORTH you could use something like SwiftForth and keep running them under Windows or MacOS! > On 27 Mar 2019, at 21:28, Grant Youngman wrote: > > It’s kind of the way things go. I’d like to be able to run some 8-bit Z-80 > apps I wrote in the 1970’s (in FORTH)

Re: [Elecraft] Macintosh version of Elecraft KX3 Utility

2019-03-27 Thread Grant Youngman
It’s kind of the way things go. I’d like to be able to run some 8-bit Z-80 apps I wrote in the 1970’s (in FORTH) without pulling my old Digital Group system out of the attic, but I can’t. Developers need to keep up. I imagine that the Elecraft macOS apps will show up as 64-bit compatible at

Re: [Elecraft] Macintosh version of Elecraft KX3 Utility

2019-03-27 Thread Wes
You could always do what some of us Windows users do; keep an old computer around with legacy OS.  My two shack computers and my office desktop still run Win 7 Pro.  To run my N2PK VNA, I have a laptop with a parallel port running WinXP and I think there is still a 386 laptop out in the garage

Re: [Elecraft] Macintosh version of Elecraft KX3 Utility

2019-03-27 Thread Bill Frantz
Apple plans to not support 32 bit applications with the next major release of MacOS. This change will hit a number of ham radio applications as well as the Elecraft utilities. My favorite program for SO2V RTTY, cocoaModem is one of them, and there is no formal support for it, and the

Re: [Elecraft] Macintosh version of Elecraft KX3 Utility

2019-03-27 Thread Walter Underwood
Since the memory manager seems to be tied to Windows, should we contribute to Chirp support for Elecraft? It already supports some Kenwood rigs, so if the Elecraft memory command set is similar to Kenwood, that might not be too hard. The request has been on the Chirp board since 2012, so it

Re: [Elecraft] Macintosh version of Elecraft KX3 Utility

2019-03-27 Thread Andy McMullin
Excellent. I look forward to seeing new versions of the OSX Utilities for the Elecraft line sometime soon then. Regards Andy, G8TQH > On 27 Mar 2019, at 18:37, Charles Johnson wrote: > > No, you are not the only person who uses a Mac with their Elecraft equipment > and macOS utilities.

Re: [Elecraft] Macintosh version of Elecraft KX3 Utility

2019-03-27 Thread Charles Johnson via Elecraft
No, you are not the only person who uses a Mac with their Elecraft equipment and macOS utilities. Elecraft is aware of the 32 bit limitation, and so is the developer of the KX3 app for macOS. I expect 64 bit versions of all Elecraft utilities will be released before the general release of the

Re: [Elecraft] Macintosh version of Elecraft KX3 Utility

2019-03-27 Thread Andy McMullin
Thanks Charles. So, am I the only person interested in using my Elecraft kit with a Mac in the future? If not, how can we get this app updated to work on Macs from now on? Who do we need to ask? Sent from my iPhone > On 27 Mar 2019, at 17:55, Charles Johnson wrote: > > Unless Apple changes

Re: [Elecraft] Macintosh version of Elecraft KX3 Utility

2019-03-27 Thread Charles Johnson via Elecraft
Unless Apple changes its position on 32 bit software like the KX3 Utility, 32 bit apps will not run on the next major release of macOS. The warning message is just that - a warning message that the app in question will not run on future version of the OS. The warning messages appears at random

Re: [Elecraft] Macintosh version of Elecraft KX3 Utility

2019-03-27 Thread Phil Hystad via Elecraft
The warning message does not merely appear just once with the first launch of the software but on subsequent lauches as well (after shutdown of the app). However, I have noticed that if a subsequent launch is within a small period of time after an earlier launch where the message was shown,

Re: [Elecraft] Macintosh version of Elecraft KX3 Utility

2019-03-27 Thread Andy McMullin
It might go away, but is it still valid? Doesn’t it mean that any day soon an update to the OS will stop the utility working? Then where are we? Regards Andy, G8TQH > On 27 Mar 2019, at 16:36, TJ Campie wrote: > > Doesn't that warning go away after the first launch of the software? I > don't

Re: [Elecraft] Macintosh version of Elecraft KX3 Utility

2019-03-27 Thread TJ Campie
Doesn't that warning go away after the first launch of the software? I don't recall seeing it again after using the K3 software for the first time. 73, W0EA TJ QRP ARCI #14612 | CW Ops #953 | SKCC #4593T NAQCC #3768 | Flying Pigs QRP #2254 http://W0EA.us *Because QRO is too easy (but

[Elecraft] Macintosh version of Elecraft KX3 Utility

2019-03-27 Thread Andy McMullin
Hi All, This might seem like an odd question, but I’ve tried a search of the mail list archive and not found the answer. Does anyone know if there is a trick or other way around the error messages from the KX3 Utility, when run on a modern Macintosh (mine’s running OS-X Mojave, 10.14.4),