Let's end this thread immediately, as it was already closed yesterday per my
earlier list email below.
73,
Eric
Mooderator
/elecraft.com/
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On 8/21/2017 4:28 PM, Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft wrote:
I apologize for not replying to this topic earlier. I was off email for a
large part of the
mailto:pu...@af2z.net>>
>Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Make this email list more manageable - a forum instead?
>Date: August 21, 2017 at 3:37:38 PM GMT-4
>To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net <mailto:elecraft@mailman.qth.net>
>Reply-To: pu...@af2z.net <mailto:pu...@af2z.net>
>Main
Don,
I do something very similar with my gmail account. I don't use an email
client, just the web interface. Having the Elecraft emails its own folder
makes it very easy to scan the subjects for topics of interest.
Mike - K3MAW
On Mon, Aug 21, 2017 at 8:18 PM, Don Wilhelm
Hi Don,
I do the same thing with individual emails from the various Yahoo groups that I
subscribe to. Email filtering is the key to effectively managing messages
Bob Nobis
n7...@nobis.net
> On Aug 21, 2017, at 17:18, Don Wilhelm wrote:
>
> John,
>
> Actually, I
John,
Actually, I consider using individual emails the easiest way to deal
with the Elecraft reflector as well as any other email lists and my
subscriptions to Yahoo groups.
I detest signing onto each message group using a browser.
My email client (I use Thunderbird), will sort the emails
I apologize for not replying to this topic earlier. I was off email for a large
part of the weekend. :-)
While we appreciate the interest in switching the Elecraft List to a forum
format, we can not watch all the topics in a multi topic forum. If there are web
forum topics for every product
If you have no vision, reading text emails is a lot easier than having
to mouse around in a forum. I occasionally get an email that my wife
says is blue print on a beautiful forest green background. I have no
color vision and I can't read it, no contrast. The color schemes often
used in
Main difference to me is that with mail reader software I can use
keyboard exclusively. Web forums require mouse
pointing/scrolling/clicking which gets on my nerves very quickly. But
for some people the mouse is easier.
The only solution is a good software solution that combines listserv
If I want to read Elecraft reflector I just go here:
http://www.mail-archive.com/elecraft@mailman.qth.net/maillist.html
I don't have any reflector or yahoo groups post go to my email account.
This avoids filling up your email account or getting stuff you are not
interested in. When I return
Let's see
Assuming the computer is running here's what I have to do:
1. Bring up Thunderbird mail program
2. Select Elecraft folder
3. Scroll down and click on the email I want to read.
For Antique Radio Forum, which I like very much, I do this:
1. Bring up ARF
2. Click on topic I want
I’m not a big fan of forums, even though I maintained the one used by 5000
engineers at Hewlett-Packard. I don’t mind the e-mail volume at all. On the
other hand, I was getting a thousand e-mails a week thirty years ago. The SOTA
reflector is a list/forum hybrid where you need to log into the
Keep the list as at present. Filter on "Subject = [Elecraft] " will put
the entire list into a file of your choice. If we could get everyone to
include the rig model in their subject line, we could be more specific,
but of course we probably can't do that.
73 - George W3HBM
Argh! I will lose access to Elecraft if they move to a "forum".
ALL of my work is done with a traditional e-mail program - I can
not abide the online "forum" software and have dropped various
list when they transitioned to web only forums.
A quality traditional e-mail program provides all the
... and while we're on the topic of updating to the 21st century, Morse
Code goes back to the 19th century. We really are way past time to do
away with this archaic system of dots and dashes and move to 21st
century technology.
See how foolish that sounds?
Seriously folks. I've been on
Oh, please don't.
A "push" technology, like E-Mail means that more of us will participate.
Web Based forums are a "pull" -- one has to be dedicated enough to go to
the forum. It slows the tempo and reduces participation.
It isn't a magic bullet. People still post in forum sections off
Ain't broke so why fix it? I subscribe via the digest as it keeps
all Elecraft related e-mail in single e-mail instead of spread
throughout my in-basket. I subscribe to many other reflectors so I
do not need this one segmented into many sub-lists. Do that and I
will unsubscribe. I'm mainly
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From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net
[mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Barry
Sent: Saturday, August 19, 2017 8:51 AM
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Make this email list more manageable - a forum
instead?
No, you wouldn't have to go to multiple places
I agree with Grant and others. There are advantages to a Forum, but I would
regret losing the open-textured character of a reflector. I think of it as if
it were an OTA net among friends and colleagues and potential friends and
colleagues with common interests. Not always very efficient, but
I like the list as is, but moderation could be tweaked perhaps. I subscribe
(and learn from) several tens of lists. I am subscribed to a few fora, but
very rarely visit them.
Keep the list as is!
a45wg wrote:
> I personally like seeing the cool stuff people do with their
Agreed X10! I like this reflector personally.
73!
Tom - KB2SMS
KX2 #01927
On 08/19/2017 11:43 AM, Wes Stewart wrote:
Grant is right on.
As I said in the last one of these discussions, "What's all the fuss
about?"
If there is a change, please, please, please don't go to Yahoo or
Google
On 19/08/17 13:12, Barry wrote:
> As Elecraft has grown, this email list has gotten quite a bit more traffic.
> It's not easy to manage, especially with the increasing number of products
> all lumped in.
>
> Why not convert it over to a forum? Use vBulletin or similar, and every
> product can
No, you wouldn't have to go to multiple places. You click your Bookmark for
the Elecraft forum - one place. If you like to see EVERYTHING that's new,
you click the New Posts button. If you are only interested in the K3, you
click the K3 subforum that is a link on the main main of the Elecraft
Grant is right on.
As I said in the last one of these discussions, "What's all the fuss about?"
If there is a change, please, please, please don't go to Yahoo or Google
groups. They are pathetic.
Wes N7WS
On 8/19/2017 7:49 AM, GRANT YOUNGMAN wrote:
Really? A separate forum for
Since I own a number of Elecraft products, I am very happy with the current
setup. Separate forums would mean I would have to go to multiple places to
follow the different products. The Elecraft traffic is a minor part of my
daily email load (~500/day) and I am interested in seeing trends on
Hello Grant,
On 08/19/2017 07:49 AM, GRANT YOUNGMAN wrote:
Really? A separate forum for Macros Would that be TWO forums — one for
KX3 macros and one for K3 macros? Or separate forums for the KX# used only for
a home station and a KX# used while backpacking?
You appear to be creating
Email works for me. Easy to delete. Easy to search. Easy to catalog.
The advantage of using Gmail. Zero Spam.
It gets pushed to me and I don't have to go looking for it.
Mike va3mw
On Sat, Aug 19, 2017 at 10:49 AM, Philip Anderson wrote:
> I was going to
I MUCH prefer the reflector because I don't have to do anything but read
and/or delete. I don't have to 'go anywhere' to get the messages. They
are in my mailbox.
On Sat, Aug 19, 2017 at 10:49 AM, GRANT YOUNGMAN
wrote:
> Really? A separate forum for Macros Would
Really? A separate forum for Macros Would that be TWO forums — one for
KX3 macros and one for K3 macros? Or separate forums for the KX# used only for
a home station and a KX# used while backpacking?
It makes me wonder how people read a newspaper. Did they write letters to the
editor
I was going to suggest splitting the list into 2 lists - a high volume
list for general chit-chat, and a low volume list that's restricted to
only discussing technical questions with Elecraft products.
I'm not interested in things like the eclipse in america, and would like
to unsubscribe
I really like the format on Antique Radios:
http://antiqueradios.com/forums/
73, Roger
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I concur. I also read the archives and it just saved me from deleting the
three dozen eclipse posts that have nothing to do with Elecraft.
Unfortunately I do not see a good way to search the archives, it is quite
easy to do with the lists on contesting.com.
John KK9A
John AE5X wrote:
Sat Aug
That is the beauty of a forum, you can subscribe to just what interests
you... If you like KX3s and KX2s, sub to both forums. If you like
Macros, sub to a a third forum...
That way I don't have to see the discussions about walking around with a
KX3, (I own a K3), and/or construct an almost
While I whole heartedly agree the forum needs looking at, it is after
all Elecraft's forum, and as such, they get to do with it as they
please
I will be happy with any result, but I would be happier with a forum change.
73s and thanks,
Dave
NK7Z
http://www.nk7z.net
On 08/19/2017 07:04
I personally like seeing the cool stuff people do with their Elecraft products.
I fear this will be lost using vBulletin or similar forum approaches.
I do not have a KX2 and I do not think I will I ever buy one (Got the KX3!!)-
but I like reading about people going to Walk the Camino Trail,
Another vote for a Forum format. I use forums for several specialty/collector
cars. MUCH easier to navigate and isolate the subjects that interest me.
Using Nabble to find information is time consuming and very awkward.
Even though this subject has been brought to Elecraft's attention
Respectfully-- of course there will be a change. As KX3 owners move to
the proposed new KX3 forum, and K3 owners move to the proposed new K3
forums the entire feel of the list will change. That was, I believe,
the idea behind the OPs original suggestion, which I support.
Soapbox mode on:
Meh …
I use several forums for a range of topics I have an interest in — ham and not
ham — they also have their plusses and minuses. And I fully agree that
conversion to a forum structure will significantly alter the kind of
interaction that takes place.
I subscribe to several active
where's the LIKE Button ?!?!?!1
-Original Message-
From: Clay Autery
Sent: Saturday, August 19, 2017 9:16 AM
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Make this email list more manageable - a forum
instead?
I've enjoyed the reflector approach. The forum would allow
I've enjoyed the reflector approach. The forum would allow for more
classification and potentially easier searching, but I believe we'll
lose responsiveness and "that something" that I sense here on the reflector.
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Clay Autery, KY5G
MONTAC Enterprises
(318) 518-1389
On
Therein lies the age old conundrum. Do you use a "pull" mechanism (a
forum) requiring a subscriber to go get the information from the site, or a
"push" mechanism where the data shows up in the inbox?
I've been both a forum admin (even a sysop at CompuServe) and an email
admin, so I've dealt with
Like other email lists which convert to a forum, it would change the
whole character of the group and interactions. In my mind it would make
it less social, less friendly, and fewer people would bother to share
their knowledge and experience. I would only visit such a forum if I had
my own
I don't know why so many people insist on making use of this list in the most
difficult way possible - by receiving individual emails or via the daily
summary email...
A far easier way is to just look periodically (daily, hourly) at the list of
messages here:
I heartedly agree, at an average of around 1000 messages per month, it
is getting very difficult to just hit delete, or filter out the vast
number of OT messages...
Having sub forums would be wonderful.
73s and thanks,
Dave
NK7Z
http://www.nk7z.net
On 08/19/2017 05:12 AM, Barry wrote:
As
As Elecraft has grown, this email list has gotten quite a bit more traffic.
It's not easy to manage, especially with the increasing number of products
all lumped in.
Why not convert it over to a forum? Use vBulletin or similar, and every
product can have its own subcategory, and it would be
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