Re: [Elecraft] Make this email list more manageable - a forum instead?

2017-08-22 Thread Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft
Let's end this thread immediately, as it was already closed yesterday per my earlier list email below. 73, Eric Mooderator /elecraft.com/ --- On 8/21/2017 4:28 PM, Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft wrote: I apologize for not replying to this topic earlier. I was off email for a large part of the

Re: [Elecraft] Make this email list more manageable - a forum instead?

2017-08-22 Thread Michael Babineau
mailto:pu...@af2z.net>> >Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Make this email list more manageable - a forum instead? >Date: August 21, 2017 at 3:37:38 PM GMT-4 >To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net <mailto:elecraft@mailman.qth.net> >Reply-To: pu...@af2z.net <mailto:pu...@af2z.net> >Main

Re: [Elecraft] Make this email list more manageable - a forum instead?

2017-08-22 Thread Mike Watterson (K3MAW)
Don, I do something very similar with my gmail account. I don't use an email client, just the web interface. Having the Elecraft emails its own folder makes it very easy to scan the subjects for topics of interest. Mike - K3MAW On Mon, Aug 21, 2017 at 8:18 PM, Don Wilhelm

Re: [Elecraft] Make this email list more manageable - a forum instead?

2017-08-21 Thread Robert Nobis
Hi Don, I do the same thing with individual emails from the various Yahoo groups that I subscribe to. Email filtering is the key to effectively managing messages Bob Nobis n7...@nobis.net > On Aug 21, 2017, at 17:18, Don Wilhelm wrote: > > John, > > Actually, I

Re: [Elecraft] Make this email list more manageable - a forum instead?

2017-08-21 Thread Don Wilhelm
John, Actually, I consider using individual emails the easiest way to deal with the Elecraft reflector as well as any other email lists and my subscriptions to Yahoo groups. I detest signing onto each message group using a browser. My email client (I use Thunderbird), will sort the emails

Re: [Elecraft] Make this email list more manageable - a forum instead?

2017-08-21 Thread Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft
I apologize for not replying to this topic earlier. I was off email for a large part of the weekend. :-) While we appreciate the interest in switching the Elecraft List to a forum format, we can not watch all the topics in a multi topic forum. If there are web forum topics for every product

Re: [Elecraft] Make this email list more manageable - a forum instead?

2017-08-21 Thread Fred Jensen
If you have no vision, reading text emails is a lot easier than having to mouse around in a forum. I occasionally get an email that my wife says is blue print on a beautiful forest green background.  I have no color vision and I can't read it, no contrast. The color schemes often used in

Re: [Elecraft] Make this email list more manageable - a forum instead?

2017-08-21 Thread Drew AF2Z
Main difference to me is that with mail reader software I can use keyboard exclusively. Web forums require mouse pointing/scrolling/clicking which gets on my nerves very quickly. But for some people the mouse is easier. The only solution is a good software solution that combines listserv

[Elecraft] Make this email list more manageable - a forum instead?

2017-08-21 Thread Reed
If I want to read Elecraft reflector I just go here: http://www.mail-archive.com/elecraft@mailman.qth.net/maillist.html I don't have any reflector or yahoo groups post go to my email account. This avoids filling up your email account or getting stuff you are not interested in. When I return

Re: [Elecraft] Make this email list more manageable - a forum instead?

2017-08-21 Thread Roger D Johnson
Let's see Assuming the computer is running here's what I have to do: 1. Bring up Thunderbird mail program 2. Select Elecraft folder 3. Scroll down and click on the email I want to read. For Antique Radio Forum, which I like very much, I do this: 1. Bring up ARF 2. Click on topic I want

Re: [Elecraft] Make this email list more manageable - a forum instead?

2017-08-19 Thread Walter Underwood
I’m not a big fan of forums, even though I maintained the one used by 5000 engineers at Hewlett-Packard. I don’t mind the e-mail volume at all. On the other hand, I was getting a thousand e-mails a week thirty years ago. The SOTA reflector is a list/forum hybrid where you need to log into the

Re: [Elecraft] Make this email list more manageable - a forum instead?

2017-08-19 Thread GWK
Keep the list as at present.  Filter on "Subject = [Elecraft] " will put the entire list into a file of your choice.  If we could get everyone to include the rig model in their subject line, we could be more specific, but of course we probably can't do that. 73 - George  W3HBM

Re: [Elecraft] Make this email list more manageable - a forum instead?

2017-08-19 Thread Joe Subich, W4TV
Argh! I will lose access to Elecraft if they move to a "forum". ALL of my work is done with a traditional e-mail program - I can not abide the online "forum" software and have dropped various list when they transitioned to web only forums. A quality traditional e-mail program provides all the

Re: [Elecraft] Make this email list more manageable - a forum instead?

2017-08-19 Thread Lynn W. Taylor, WB6UUT
... and while we're on the topic of updating to the 21st century, Morse Code goes back to the 19th century. We really are way past time to do away with this archaic system of dots and dashes and move to 21st century technology. See how foolish that sounds? Seriously folks. I've been on

Re: [Elecraft] Make this email list more manageable - a forum instead?

2017-08-19 Thread Lynn W. Taylor, WB6UUT
Oh, please don't. A "push" technology, like E-Mail means that more of us will participate. Web Based forums are a "pull" -- one has to be dedicated enough to go to the forum. It slows the tempo and reduces participation. It isn't a magic bullet. People still post in forum sections off

Re: [Elecraft] Make this email list more manageable - a forum instead?

2017-08-19 Thread Edward R Cole
Ain't broke so why fix it? I subscribe via the digest as it keeps all Elecraft related e-mail in single e-mail instead of spread throughout my in-basket. I subscribe to many other reflectors so I do not need this one segmented into many sub-lists. Do that and I will unsubscribe. I'm mainly

Re: [Elecraft] Make this email list more manageable - a forum instead?

2017-08-19 Thread Erik Basilier
- From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Barry Sent: Saturday, August 19, 2017 8:51 AM To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Make this email list more manageable - a forum instead? No, you wouldn't have to go to multiple places

[Elecraft] Make this email list more manageable - a forum instead?

2017-08-19 Thread Dauer, Edward
I agree with Grant and others. There are advantages to a Forum, but I would regret losing the open-textured character of a reflector. I think of it as if it were an OTA net among friends and colleagues and potential friends and colleagues with common interests. Not always very efficient, but

Re: [Elecraft] Make this email list more manageable - a forum instead?

2017-08-19 Thread Brian D
I like the list as is, but moderation could be tweaked perhaps. I subscribe (and learn from) several tens of lists. I am subscribed to a few fora, but very rarely visit them. Keep the list as is! a45wg wrote: > I personally like seeing the cool stuff people do with their

Re: [Elecraft] Make this email list more manageable - a forum instead?

2017-08-19 Thread Tommy
Agreed X10! I like this reflector personally. 73! Tom - KB2SMS KX2 #01927 On 08/19/2017 11:43 AM, Wes Stewart wrote: Grant is right on. As I said in the last one of these discussions, "What's all the fuss about?" If there is a change, please, please, please don't go to Yahoo or Google

Re: [Elecraft] Make this email list more manageable - a forum instead?

2017-08-19 Thread Richard Lamont
On 19/08/17 13:12, Barry wrote: > As Elecraft has grown, this email list has gotten quite a bit more traffic. > It's not easy to manage, especially with the increasing number of products > all lumped in. > > Why not convert it over to a forum? Use vBulletin or similar, and every > product can

Re: [Elecraft] Make this email list more manageable - a forum instead?

2017-08-19 Thread Barry
No, you wouldn't have to go to multiple places. You click your Bookmark for the Elecraft forum - one place. If you like to see EVERYTHING that's new, you click the New Posts button. If you are only interested in the K3, you click the K3 subforum that is a link on the main main of the Elecraft

Re: [Elecraft] Make this email list more manageable - a forum instead?

2017-08-19 Thread Wes Stewart
Grant is right on. As I said in the last one of these discussions, "What's all the fuss about?" If there is a change, please, please, please don't go to Yahoo or Google groups. They are pathetic. Wes N7WS On 8/19/2017 7:49 AM, GRANT YOUNGMAN wrote: Really? A separate forum for

Re: [Elecraft] Make this email list more manageable - a forum instead?

2017-08-19 Thread Allan Zadiraka
Since I own a number of Elecraft products, I am very happy with the current setup. Separate forums would mean I would have to go to multiple places to follow the different products. The Elecraft traffic is a minor part of my daily email load (~500/day) and I am interested in seeing trends on

Re: [Elecraft] Make this email list more manageable - a forum instead?

2017-08-19 Thread Dave Cole
Hello Grant, On 08/19/2017 07:49 AM, GRANT YOUNGMAN wrote: Really? A separate forum for Macros Would that be TWO forums — one for KX3 macros and one for K3 macros? Or separate forums for the KX# used only for a home station and a KX# used while backpacking? You appear to be creating

Re: [Elecraft] Make this email list more manageable - a forum instead?

2017-08-19 Thread Michael Walker
Email works for me. Easy to delete. Easy to search. Easy to catalog. The advantage of using Gmail. Zero Spam. It gets pushed to me and I don't have to go looking for it. Mike va3mw On Sat, Aug 19, 2017 at 10:49 AM, Philip Anderson wrote: > I was going to

Re: [Elecraft] Make this email list more manageable - a forum instead?

2017-08-19 Thread Michael Bower
I MUCH prefer the reflector because I don't have to do anything but read and/or delete. I don't have to 'go anywhere' to get the messages. They are in my mailbox. On Sat, Aug 19, 2017 at 10:49 AM, GRANT YOUNGMAN wrote: > Really? A separate forum for Macros Would

Re: [Elecraft] Make this email list more manageable - a forum instead?

2017-08-19 Thread GRANT YOUNGMAN
Really? A separate forum for Macros Would that be TWO forums — one for KX3 macros and one for K3 macros? Or separate forums for the KX# used only for a home station and a KX# used while backpacking? It makes me wonder how people read a newspaper. Did they write letters to the editor

Re: [Elecraft] Make this email list more manageable - a forum instead?

2017-08-19 Thread Philip Anderson
I was going to suggest splitting the list into 2 lists - a high volume list for general chit-chat, and a low volume list that's restricted to only discussing technical questions with Elecraft products. I'm not interested in things like the eclipse in america, and would like to unsubscribe

Re: [Elecraft] Make this email list more manageable - a forum instead?

2017-08-19 Thread Roger D Johnson
I really like the format on Antique Radios: http://antiqueradios.com/forums/ 73, Roger __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post:

Re: [Elecraft] Make this email list more manageable - a forum instead?

2017-08-19 Thread john
I concur. I also read the archives and it just saved me from deleting the three dozen eclipse posts that have nothing to do with Elecraft. Unfortunately I do not see a good way to search the archives, it is quite easy to do with the lists on contesting.com. John KK9A John AE5X wrote: Sat Aug

Re: [Elecraft] Make this email list more manageable - a forum instead?

2017-08-19 Thread Dave Cole
That is the beauty of a forum, you can subscribe to just what interests you... If you like KX3s and KX2s, sub to both forums. If you like Macros, sub to a a third forum... That way I don't have to see the discussions about walking around with a KX3, (I own a K3), and/or construct an almost

Re: [Elecraft] Make this email list more manageable - a forum instead?

2017-08-19 Thread Dave Cole
While I whole heartedly agree the forum needs looking at, it is after all Elecraft's forum, and as such, they get to do with it as they please I will be happy with any result, but I would be happier with a forum change. 73s and thanks, Dave NK7Z http://www.nk7z.net On 08/19/2017 07:04

Re: [Elecraft] Make this email list more manageable - a forum instead?

2017-08-19 Thread a45wg
I personally like seeing the cool stuff people do with their Elecraft products. I fear this will be lost using vBulletin or similar forum approaches. I do not have a KX2 and I do not think I will I ever buy one (Got the KX3!!)- but I like reading about people going to Walk the Camino Trail,

Re: [Elecraft] Make this email list more manageable - a forum instead?

2017-08-19 Thread Steve Mollman via Elecraft
Another vote for a Forum format.  I use forums for several specialty/collector cars.  MUCH easier to navigate and isolate the subjects that interest me.  Using Nabble to find information is time consuming and very awkward. Even though this subject has been brought to Elecraft's attention

Re: [Elecraft] Make this email list more manageable - a forum instead?

2017-08-19 Thread Dave Cole
Respectfully-- of course there will be a change. As KX3 owners move to the proposed new KX3 forum, and K3 owners move to the proposed new K3 forums the entire feel of the list will change. That was, I believe, the idea behind the OPs original suggestion, which I support. Soapbox mode on:

Re: [Elecraft] Make this email list more manageable - a forum instead?

2017-08-19 Thread GRANT YOUNGMAN
Meh … I use several forums for a range of topics I have an interest in — ham and not ham — they also have their plusses and minuses. And I fully agree that conversion to a forum structure will significantly alter the kind of interaction that takes place. I subscribe to several active

Re: [Elecraft] Make this email list more manageable - a forum instead?

2017-08-19 Thread Jamie WW3S
where's the LIKE Button ?!?!?!1 -Original Message- From: Clay Autery Sent: Saturday, August 19, 2017 9:16 AM To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Make this email list more manageable - a forum instead? I've enjoyed the reflector approach. The forum would allow

Re: [Elecraft] Make this email list more manageable - a forum instead?

2017-08-19 Thread Clay Autery
I've enjoyed the reflector approach. The forum would allow for more classification and potentially easier searching, but I believe we'll lose responsiveness and "that something" that I sense here on the reflector. __ Clay Autery, KY5G MONTAC Enterprises (318) 518-1389 On

Re: [Elecraft] Make this email list more manageable - a forum instead?

2017-08-19 Thread rich hurd WC3T
Therein lies the age old conundrum. Do you use a "pull" mechanism (a forum) requiring a subscriber to go get the information from the site, or a "push" mechanism where the data shows up in the inbox? I've been both a forum admin (even a sysop at CompuServe) and an email admin, so I've dealt with

Re: [Elecraft] Make this email list more manageable - a forum instead?

2017-08-19 Thread Steve Sergeant
Like other email lists which convert to a forum, it would change the whole character of the group and interactions. In my mind it would make it less social, less friendly, and fewer people would bother to share their knowledge and experience. I would only visit such a forum if I had my own

[Elecraft] Make this email list more manageable - a forum instead?

2017-08-19 Thread John AE5X
I don't know why so many people insist on making use of this list in the most difficult way possible - by receiving individual emails or via the daily summary email... A far easier way is to just look periodically (daily, hourly) at the list of messages here:

Re: [Elecraft] Make this email list more manageable - a forum instead?

2017-08-19 Thread Dave Cole
I heartedly agree, at an average of around 1000 messages per month, it is getting very difficult to just hit delete, or filter out the vast number of OT messages... Having sub forums would be wonderful. 73s and thanks, Dave NK7Z http://www.nk7z.net On 08/19/2017 05:12 AM, Barry wrote: As

[Elecraft] Make this email list more manageable - a forum instead?

2017-08-19 Thread Barry
As Elecraft has grown, this email list has gotten quite a bit more traffic. It's not easy to manage, especially with the increasing number of products all lumped in. Why not convert it over to a forum? Use vBulletin or similar, and every product can have its own subcategory, and it would be