Re: [Elecraft] Musings on Noise Reduction

2008-12-12 Thread W7TEA
Yes, adjusting the AGC Threshold made a significant difference in NR for me on CW. I was using 3 or 4 and now use 5 or 6. NR is not appropriate or helpful in all occasions but I use it more than before. thanks! Gary W7TEA I started this thread and I have been watching the replies with inter

[Elecraft] Musings on Noise Reduction

2008-12-08 Thread k4pi
Lee, I experienced the same thing on 160 M duing the CQ WW CW test. I was single op there all weekend and we had storms that stayed in the area all weekend and without the K3 NR I would have headed home early. I use a full size transmit 4 square and have to attentuate all I can and the NR made

Re: [Elecraft] Musings on Noise Reduction

2008-12-08 Thread K8RDD
I think a previous firmware version had a better NR on Phone than the version now. I don't remember which one but some made a comment concerning this. I agree also it used to seem better. Randy K8RDD WA6L wrote: > > > You may be on to something there, Lee. I didn't even try SSB after making >

Re: [Elecraft] Musings on Noise Reduction

2008-12-08 Thread WA6L
You may be on to something there, Lee. I didn't even try SSB after making those adjustments. Still and all, there is work to be done on the K3 NR system, or perhaps it is the AGC algorithms. I still find the K2 noise reduction much more effective and certainly easier to use than the K3's. Tha

[Elecraft] Musings on Noise Reduction

2008-12-08 Thread Lee Trout
John: Thanks for the suggestions. I tweaked some of the AGC settings and found it did somewhat improve the N/R for CW, but to my ear, made the distortion on SSB worse. Perhaps the "one size fits all" is the problem? In other words, if we had PER MODE noise reduction (tailored to the mode) coupl

RE: [Elecraft] Musings on Noise Reduction

2008-12-07 Thread Roger Marrotte
I have the default settings for AGC. Roger, W1EM _ From: Bill W5WVO [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, December 07, 2008 9:06 PM To: Roger Marrotte; 'Lee Trout' Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Musings on Noise Reduction It might be instructive

Re: [Elecraft] Musings on Noise Reduction

2008-12-07 Thread WA6L
I started this thread and I have been watching the replies with interest. Dick's question about AGC settings piqued my interest and I did some additional research. First, Lyle Johnson's message here: http://n2.nabble.com/K3-AGC-Settings-Tutorial-td681120.html#a681120 does much to explain the AG

Re: [Elecraft] Musings on Noise Reduction

2008-12-07 Thread Richard S. Lindzen
subjective experiences reported?   Bill W5WVO - Original Message - From: Roger Marrotte To: 'Lee Trout' Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Sent: Sunday, December 07, 2008 4:07 PM Subject: RE: [Elecraft] Musings on Noise Reduction Lee,   Sorry to say that I've had the

Re: [Elecraft] Musings on Noise Reduction

2008-12-07 Thread Bill W5WVO
: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Sent: Sunday, December 07, 2008 4:07 PM Subject: RE: [Elecraft] Musings on Noise Reduction Lee, Sorry to say that I've had the exact opposite experience. I haven't had a K2 for a few years. I've had a K3 since July. I worked some in the 160m contest th

RE: [Elecraft] Musings on Noise Reduction

2008-12-07 Thread Roger Marrotte
s. Perhaps if you were using a vertical, the noise was more severe or just different. Roger, W1EM _ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lee Trout Sent: Sunday, December 07, 2008 5:51 PM To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: [Elecraft] Musings on Noise Reductio

[Elecraft] Musings on Noise Reduction

2008-12-07 Thread Lee Trout
John: I agree: The noise reduction on the K3 is poor. To my ear, all 16 settings introduce distortion while providing minimal noise reduction. And yes, I have played around with rx eq settings. My little Kenwood 480 has much better N/R than the K3. The N/R is my only major complaint about the

[Elecraft] Musings on Noise Reduction

2008-12-07 Thread John Graf
I ran a single-op QRP effort in the ARRL 160M contest this weekend. I ran about half the time with my K2, and the other half with my K3 @ 5 watts. It was interesting to compare the two rigs. I did not run any laboratory tests, so this clearly falls into the category of opinion. But the K2 DSP n