Re: [Elecraft] OT: K3 and antenna questions

2008-07-03 Thread David Cutter
I run a 2 x 88ft doublet straight into my K3 and it matches top to 10 David G3UNA ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.):

Re: [Elecraft] OT: K3 and antenna questions

2008-07-03 Thread Jim Wiley
David - How high is it? What kind of feed-line are you using? How long is the feed-line? Do you use a balun at the antenna or at the transmitter end? Does the K3 auto-coupler show any symptoms of having trouble matching one or more bands (long tuning time)? - Jim, KL7CC David

Re: [Elecraft] OT: K3 and antenna questions

2008-07-03 Thread David Cutter
, July 03, 2008 6:44 PM Subject: Re: [Elecraft] OT: K3 and antenna questions David - How high is it? What kind of feed-line are you using? How long is the feed-line? Do you use a balun at the antenna or at the transmitter end? Does the K3 auto-coupler show any symptoms of having trouble

[Elecraft] OT: K3 and antenna questions

2008-07-02 Thread Dave Van Wallaghen
I apologize for the bandwidth, but I really trust the sources of info here and it may help someone else starting out like me with specific K3 info and antenna theory. I've been playing around with my K3 in a portable capacity out in my yard. Here is the setup: -K3 running @ 5W -Antenna: 66'

Re: [Elecraft] OT: K3 and antenna questions

2008-07-02 Thread Don Wilhelm
Dave, Yes, the law of reciprocity applies on both TX and RX, but the K3 has a better receiver, so it is entirely possible for you to hear ones that you cannot work. His signal report to you indicates that is likely the case. Try your antenna without the balun - you should not notice

Re: [Elecraft] OT: K3 and antenna questions

2008-07-02 Thread Ralph Tyrrell
Dave, W8FGU: Your questions are most appropriate, Elecraft and Amamteur Radio related. Dave wrote: Now my questions: 1 - with my antenna setup tuned with the KAT3, knowing that we were both at 5 watts, is it possible for the antenna to be more efficient at receiving than transmitting? I guess I

RE: [Elecraft] OT: K3 and antenna questions

2008-07-02 Thread Ron D'Eau Claire
No apologies needed Dave. Based on the posts here over the past decade, your question is *very* list-appropriate. Don's comments are right on as always. Any warming of the balun is RF energy that was never radiated. At low powers, any noticeable heating is likely a big chunk of your power. And

Re: [Elecraft] OT: K3 and antenna questions - variant

2008-07-02 Thread David Ferrington, M0XDF
Dragging this slightly away from the topic - I've seen this said before, so would like some explanation please. I plan on using a doublet of non-determined resonance with my K3 portable. the arms are 18.3m and fedd with ~ 12m of 300 ohm ribbon (TV type), supported by a 10m telescopic

Re: [Elecraft] OT: K3 and antenna questions

2008-07-02 Thread k2av
A half-wave doublet center-fed with a quarter-wave of hi-Z feedline is a worst case scenario. A 66' doublet would be close to a resonant antenna on 7.0 MHz. Accounting for the thin wire, would expect a 70 ohm center-feed impedance, even at that height. It would appear that the length of the

RE: [Elecraft] OT: K3 and antenna questions

2008-07-02 Thread Dave Van Wallaghen
Hey Don, Thanks for the reply. I forgot to mention in the first post that I used this last year in a slightly different spot and it was fed with 33' of open feedline. I fed it directly from my K2 without a balun and it tuned up great 80m - 10m. To get 1:1 SWR on 20m I added 6' of feedline. After

RE: [Elecraft] OT: K3 and antenna questions

2008-07-02 Thread Dave Van Wallaghen
results ;-) Thanks for the great info Ron. 73, Dave W8FGU -Original Message- From: Ron D'Eau Claire [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2008 1:02 PM To: 'Dave Van Wallaghen'; elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: RE: [Elecraft] OT: K3 and antenna questions

Re: [Elecraft] OT: K3 and antenna questions

2008-07-02 Thread Geoffrey Mackenzie-Kennedy
Hi Dave, I know I should also model this thing in EZNEC, but have not taken the time to learn how to use it yet. Seems a little daunting when I look at it. When you do have the time to try EZNEC you will find that it is quite easy to use. Transmission line programs are also very useful