Re: [Elecraft] OT: SMT kits?

2004-08-11 Thread Stuart Rohre
Sandy, What kind of soldering station do you have now? How about $5 to put you in SMD capable soldering set up? Or maybe $10 outside, the cost of a proper tip if you have a heat controlled station now. 750 tips would do it, with the narrow end suited to 1206 pads. 73, Stuart K5KVH

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2004-08-11 Thread Eric Swartz WA6HHQ - Elecraft
41 SMT related posts in the last couple of days. Wow! Looks like we've beaten it to death. Time to let this thread rest. :-) 73, Eric WA6HHQ Elecraft List moderator ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a

[Elecraft] OT: SMT kits?

2004-08-10 Thread Richard T Perry
Ok, folks - this is off topic, but since y'all have been a font of knowledge about kit building, I thought I would try this question... How hard is SMT soldering, really? I've been lusting after the TAPR Software Defined Radio kit,(http://www.tapr.org/tapr/html/Fdsp10.html) but it's majority

Re: [Elecraft] OT: SMT kits?

2004-08-10 Thread Don Wilhelm
Richard, SMT work requires some parts handling techniques and a few pieces of extra equipment if one is to be successful. If you are going to be building electronic equipment, it is something you may want to persue. The first thing needed is to develop a gentle hand with the tweezers to

Re: [Elecraft] OT: SMT kits?

2004-08-10 Thread Steve, G4GXL
SMT work requires ... a few pieces of extra equipment if one is to be successful One useful piece of 'extra equipment' is a vacuum cleaner with a piece of nylon stocking stretched over the nozzle. Then instead of spending 30 minutes on your hands and knees looking for the SMD component that

Re: [Elecraft] OT: SMT kits?

2004-08-10 Thread Frank C Van Cleef
] To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Sent: Tuesday, August 10, 2004 5:29 AM Subject: [Elecraft] OT: SMT kits? Ok, folks - this is off topic, but since y'all have been a font of knowledge about kit building, I thought I would try this question... How hard is SMT soldering, really? I've been lusting after the TAPR

Re: [Elecraft] OT: SMT kits?

2004-08-10 Thread Mike Morrow
I would *never* buy any kit that requires more than an item or two of SMT work. SMT construction is specifically designed *only* for machine assembly. IMO, any SMT kit must come with almost all the SMT components pre-assembled to the PC boards to be acceptable. I'm not against SMT. In fact, I

Re: [Elecraft] OT: SMT kits?

2004-08-10 Thread Rod N0RC
Mike, - Original Message - From: Mike Morrow [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Sent: Tuesday, August 10, 2004 9:34 AM Subject: Re: [Elecraft] OT: SMT kits? I would *never* buy any kit that requires more than an item or two of SMT work. SMT construction is specifically

RE: [Elecraft] OT: SMT kits?

2004-08-10 Thread Ron D'Eau Claire
Lesee... The design of clocks, especially mechanical watches, has always fascinated me. I built a 24-inch long model of the USS Constitution once with about half a jillion tiny knots in the rigging, all done by hand using tweezers. With that background, I simply found the advent of SMC's

Re: [Elecraft] OT: SMT kits?

2004-08-10 Thread Michael Harris
G'day, I would *never* buy any kit that requires more than an item or two of SMT work. SMT construction is specifically designed *only* for machine assembly. IMO, any SMT kit must come with almost all the SMT components pre-assembled to the PC boards to be acceptable. Well I guess through

Re: [Elecraft] OT: SMT kits?

2004-08-10 Thread n4gi
- Original Message - From: Mike Morrow [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tuesday, August 10, 2004 11:34 am Subject: Re: [Elecraft] OT: SMT kits? SMT construction is specifically designed *only* for machine assembly. IMO, any SMT kit must come with almost all the SMT componentspre-assembled

Re: [Elecraft] OT: SMT kits?

2004-08-10 Thread Trev - K6ESE
Actually, I find surface mount components much easier to replace in most cases than through hole parts. Especially when you are prototyping and you have to change components often. No holes to clean out, no plate throughs to damage, no leads to clip. Once you get used to the size of the parts and

Re: [Elecraft] OT: SMT kits?

2004-08-10 Thread Sandy W5TVW
!!) Big smile ;^) 73, Sandy W5TVW - Original Message - From: Frank C Van Cleef [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Sent: Tuesday, August 10, 2004 10:20 AM Subject: Re: [Elecraft] OT: SMT kits? | | With all due respect to those of us who have to squint ever harder to see | what

Re: [Elecraft] OT: SMT kits?

2004-08-10 Thread James T. Jim Rogers
Now that Wayne Burdick has a great idea. An introductory kit to SMT devices. That is why I like Elecraft. Thinking folks. As the cordinator for a build day for our local radio club, I embarked upon a small inexpensive kit search that would give our novice builders the biggest

RE: [Elecraft] OT: SMT kits?

2004-08-10 Thread John A. Ross [RSDTV]
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Sandy W5TVW Sent: Tuesday, August 10, 2004 7:18 PM To: Frank C Van Cleef; elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] OT: SMT kits? One reason I don't care with SMD stuff, is the cost

Re: [Elecraft] OT: SMT kits?

2004-08-10 Thread John Payne
Who needs an expensive soldering station for SMT? I've built a couple of SMT projects with a standard soldering station (using a fine tip)with no problem. If one looks for excuses, one can find them, and never do or learn anything new! There are many cheap and easy tricks for SMT work, if one

Re: [Elecraft] OT: SMT kits?

2004-08-10 Thread Bill Tippett
Richard, I already sent you my comments directly as you requested, but feel I should respond to some of the comments posted here. By way of background, the only SMT parts I had used previously were mounting 5 SMT caps on an Inrad roofing filter kit for my Orion. That went well

Re: [Elecraft] OT: SMT kits?

2004-08-10 Thread Larry Makoski W2LJ
A trick that I learned was to take a long piece of solid bell wire or hookup wire (copper) about 6- 8 inches long. Remove the insulation and wrap a coil around your soldering iron tip. Bring the last bit of wire out, parallel to the axix of the soldering iron. Plug the iron, in, let the wire

Re: [Elecraft] OT: SMT kits?

2004-08-10 Thread Sandy W5TVW
PROTECTED]; elecraft@mailman.qth.net Sent: Tuesday, August 10, 2004 5:12 PM Subject: Re: [Elecraft] OT: SMT kits? | Who needs an expensive soldering station for SMT? I've built a couple of | SMT projects with a standard soldering station (using a fine tip)with no | problem. If one looks