RE: [Elecraft] Simple-minded SPAM filters vs. list participation

2006-03-16 Thread Craig Rairdin
Please...if you are requesting help, don't insult me by expecting me to jump through these idiotic processes that say, in effect, that your time is more valuable than mine. I'm normally one who doesn't put up with a lot of crap. I just got a call from a company asking me to make sure I've

RE: [Elecraft] Simple-minded SPAM filters vs. list participation

2006-03-16 Thread Don Wilhelm
Craig, Sorry, but I beg to differ with you. If someone asks me for my help, I do not expect to fill out any forms to provide that assistance - and I will not. There are many very good and effective spam filters out there - I use Spambayes, and after a very short period of training, I have no

RE: [Elecraft] Simple-minded SPAM filters vs. list participation

2006-03-16 Thread Craig Rairdin
. :-) Craig -Original Message- From: Mark Bayern [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, March 16, 2006 9:29 AM To: Craig Rairdin Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Simple-minded SPAM filters vs. list participation When someone asks a question, they should be open

Re: [Elecraft] Simple-minded SPAM filters vs. list participation

2006-03-16 Thread Rich McCabe
on our end) there are much better solutions than the authentication spam programs. 73, Rich kd0zv - Original Message - From: Don Wilhelm [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Sent: Thursday, March 16, 2006 9:25 AM Subject: RE: [Elecraft] Simple-minded SPAM filters vs. list

Re: [Elecraft] Simple-minded SPAM filters vs. list participation

2006-03-16 Thread David A. Belsley
16, 2006 9:29 AM To: Craig Rairdin Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Simple-minded SPAM filters vs. list participation When someone asks a question, they should be open to receiving the answers. There is something very wrong about asking a question and then in effect

RE: [Elecraft] Simple-minded SPAM filters vs. list participation

2006-03-16 Thread Brian Mury
On Thu, 2006-03-16 at 10:25 -0500, Don Wilhelm wrote: Sorry, but I beg to differ with you. If someone asks me for my help, I do not expect to fill out any forms to provide that assistance - and I will not. I agree completely. Those challenge emails are generally considered to be poor

RE: [Elecraft] Simple-minded SPAM filters vs. list participation

2006-03-16 Thread KZ5A
on FB and everyone will be happy. 73 Jack KZ5A -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Don Wilhelm Sent: Thursday, March 16, 2006 9:25 AM To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: RE: [Elecraft] Simple-minded SPAM filters vs. list participation Craig

Re: [Elecraft] Simple-minded SPAM filters vs. list participation

2006-03-16 Thread Vic K2VCO
Craig Rairdin wrote: However, your logic in this post is self-defeating. By refusing to go through the process of being whitelisted, you are saying, in effect, that your time is more valuable than the person to whom you sent the email -- the same accusation you make of him or her. Bad

Re: [Elecraft] Simple-minded SPAM filters vs. list participation

2006-03-16 Thread w2agn
Craig Rairdin wrote: It's truly bizarre to me to have people volunteer to join a list the purpose of which is to help people do something they know about, then complain about doing the very thing they voluntarily chose to do. Well, I agree with those who think it is bizarre, as well as

Re: [Elecraft] Simple-minded SPAM filters vs. list participation

2006-03-16 Thread Nigel A. Gunn G8IFF/KC8NHF
The problem doesn't arise when only replying to the list. The problem is that far too many list users don't bother to delete the previous senders addresses in the REPLY TO list and therefore send out several replies to each message. Invariably, if someone replies to my post, I get the reply to

[Elecraft] Simple-minded SPAM filters vs. list participation

2006-03-15 Thread Mike Morrow
I wonder if I'm the only one who finds it aggravating to respond to a request on this list, and get in return a message with a link I have to fill out for the honor of passing the information to the requestee? Please...if you are requesting help, don't insult me by expecting me to jump through

Re: [Elecraft] Simple-minded SPAM filters vs. list participation

2006-03-15 Thread Ian Stirling
On Wednesday 15 March 2006 15:29, Mike Morrow wrote: Please...if you are requesting help, don't insult me by expecting me to jump through these idiotic processes that say, in effect, that your time is more valuable than mine. Mike, You have a 'Reply To' in your postings' headers that

RE: [Elecraft] Simple-minded SPAM filters vs. list participation

2006-03-15 Thread Ron D'Eau Claire
Mike KK5F wrote: I wonder if I'm the only one who finds it aggravating to respond to a request on this list, and get in return a message with a link I have to fill out for the honor of passing the information to the requestee? Please...if you are requesting help, don't insult me by expecting me