Re: [Elecraft] Split operation

2015-02-24 Thread Bill Frantz
On 2/24/15 at 6:04 AM, li...@subich.com (Joe Subich, W4TV) wrote: I thought I was in split with the marker in the P3 dead on where I wanted to transmit. All was set except I hadn't dedicated that A>B button to "split". Do you have problems seeing red? The P3 will show a RED cursor for the tra

Re: [Elecraft] Split operation

2015-02-24 Thread Joe Subich, W4TV
d unable to simply read the screen. It's the same here with the split, people just need to pay attention to what they're doing. From: Ralph Parker To: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net Sent: Monday, February 23, 2015 3:08 PM Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Split operation Or, we co

Re: [Elecraft] Split operation

2015-02-24 Thread Harry Yingst via Elecraft
rom: Gary Smith To: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net Sent: Tuesday, February 24, 2015 12:38 AM Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Split operation Harry, What you say is true, I can not disagree. I will say that absent-mindedness is the bane of humanity and nobody can remember all the right things to do,

Re: [Elecraft] Split operation

2015-02-23 Thread Harry Yingst via Elecraft
an.qth.net Sent: Monday, February 23, 2015 3:08 PM Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Split operation >> Or, we could replace the *entire* VFO A display with the word "SPLIT" during >> key-down. This would be even more obvious, and it wouldn't mess up the VFO B >> d

Re: [Elecraft] Split operation - display of Transmit frequency on keydown

2015-02-21 Thread Laurent F6DEX
HI Wayne Anyway, a useful indication could be the split (i.e +1.50) offset instead of the VFO B frequency (user choice based on the DISP status). This is rarely done by manufacturers (I know the TS-990 which does this) but this is very useful in practice and avoids mental calculations. 73, Laure

Re: [Elecraft] Split operation - display of Transmit frequency on keydown

2015-02-21 Thread QUENTIN COLLIER
W4TV" ; elecraft@mailman.qth.net Sent: Wednesday, 18 February 2015, 11:21 Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Split operation - display of Transmit frequency on keydown Joe, that is a great idea, but it doesn't go far enough. Some users might switch off the test mode on purpose. In this case

Re: [Elecraft] Split Operation

2015-02-19 Thread wb6rse1
When attempting to break a pileup, the reason to use the conventional SPLIT mode vs implied (assuming your have the sub RX) is to have all of the RX controls, bandwidth, APF etc. immediately available without having to use B-SET first. Steve WB6RSE > > On Feb 18, 2015, at 11:42 PM, Dan Maase

Re: [Elecraft] Split Operation

2015-02-18 Thread Dan Maase AC6DM via Elecraft
Thanks Wayne. I had been using the conventional split mode when it occurred to me, why am I not using what you dub "implied split"? I've been doing that since and thought I would bring it up to the group since it has little press. I acknowledge your reference to the owner's manual, but frankly h

Re: [Elecraft] Split Operation

2015-02-18 Thread Wayne Burdick
This is discussed briefly on page 38 of the owner's manual ("SPLIT mode with the sub receiver"). I think of it as "implied split." I have posted about this technique on a few occasions. It has the advantage that you can tune the pileup with the large VFO A knob, and you don't have to engage in e

Re: [Elecraft] Split operation - display of Transmit frequency on keydown

2015-02-18 Thread J.K. Hooper
I’m not sure why I feel compelled to contribute to his thread when I am, in general, more the reader than the contributor. Perhaps it is because I was deathly afraid of being called a L** while trying to work Navassa. In any event, on the topic of split display, feedback, I make the follow

Re: [Elecraft] Split operation - display of Transmit frequencyonkeydown

2015-02-18 Thread MontyS
The sarcasm some claim is being lost in the noise of ludicrous explanations. It may make some of us who read the reflector posts to learn more prone to unsubscription. Just sayin'. YMMV. FWIW. K2DLJ - catch my article in April QST!! nothing is my fault anymore - sound familiar ??? ___

Re: [Elecraft] Split operation - display of Transmit frequency on keydown

2015-02-18 Thread Brendan Minish
In my opinion the K3 already does a more than adequate job of indicating split. The Delta LED is Eye catching enough. Mind you my P3 is to the left of My K3 thus the LED certainly within my eye-line when operating. However from the point of view of a standalone radio it might make better sense

Re: [Elecraft] Split operation - display of Transmit frequency onkeydown

2015-02-18 Thread Hank P
the split - Good to know it was not me . nothing is my fault anymore - sound familiar ??? Hank K&HP Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Split operation - display of Transmit frequency onkeydown I argued for this a long time ago, but Eric and others convinced me that a flashing Delta-F LED would be

Re: [Elecraft] Split operation - display of Transmit frequency on keydown

2015-02-18 Thread Harry Yingst via Elecraft
Isn't that what the red is showing? From: David Cole To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Sent: Wednesday, February 18, 2015 10:23 AM Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Split operation - display of Transmit frequency on keydown What a good idea!  Also, why not just write SPLIT on the s

Re: [Elecraft] Split operation - display of Transmit frequency on keydown

2015-02-18 Thread Doug Holmes
Hi Dave, I use macros to set up my split and remove it when finished. That works very well. I am also familiar with "tap - tap - hold" to set the rig into split mode. However, if I happen to do something unrelated, and then later return to the DX, I may have caused the split to have dropped

Re: [Elecraft] Split operation - display of Transmit frequency on keydown

2015-02-18 Thread David Cole
I can reproduce it now...Place the rig in USB... Press and hold Split... Change modes to CW, split goes away every time here. -- Thanks and 73's, For equipment, and software setups and reviews see: www.nk7z.net for MixW support see; http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/mixw/info for Dopplergram in

Re: [Elecraft] Split operation - display of Transmit frequency on keydown

2015-02-18 Thread David Cole
Hi Dave, That is very odd, mine did! I tested it several times, and now no... I am confused. -- Thanks and 73's, For equipment, and software setups and reviews see: www.nk7z.net for MixW support see; http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/mixw/info for Dopplergram information see: http://groups.yaho

Re: [Elecraft] Split Operation

2015-02-18 Thread Rick Bates
Because if the other station is low power or otherwise weak, the 3 db RX hit may be too much to bear. 73, Rick wa6nhc Tiny iPhone 5 keypad, typos are inevitable > On Feb 18, 2015, at 12:23 PM, Dan Maase AC6DM via Elecraft > wrote: > > If the K3 is equipped with sub receiver, why not work sp

Re: [Elecraft] Split Operation

2015-02-18 Thread Dan Maase AC6DM via Elecraft
If the K3 is equipped with sub receiver, why not work split by working the pileup on VFO A while listening to the calling station on VFO B? I've not seen anyone comment on this operating mode. 1. Keeps the xmit operation on VFO A avoiding the oops of working conventional split and forgetting to

Re: [Elecraft] Split operation - display of Transmit frequency on keydown

2015-02-18 Thread riese-k3djc
On Wed, 18 Feb 2015 12:48:13 -0600 dave writes: > > On the K3 here, changing mode does not cause it to drop out of > split. > I can change between SSB and CW and it remains in split. If I try to > > This isnt going to go away ? kinda a bit much Bob K3DJC __

Re: [Elecraft] Split operation - display of Transmit frequency on keydown

2015-02-18 Thread dave
On the K3 here, changing mode does not cause it to drop out of split. I can change between SSB and CW and it remains in split. If I try to go to DATA or AM it shows a 'SPLIT N/A' message in the VFO B window and refuses to change modes. So the op must manually turn off split to go to those mod

Re: [Elecraft] Split operation - display of Transmit frequency on keydown

2015-02-18 Thread David Cole
Mode change drops it out of split -- Thanks and 73's, For equipment, and software setups and reviews see: www.nk7z.net for MixW support see; http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/mixw/info for Dopplergram information see: http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/dopplergram/info for MM-SSTV see: http://gro

Re: [Elecraft] Split operation - display of Transmit frequency on keydown

2015-02-18 Thread Edward R Cole
ything. BTW having diversity easier to enter will be nice. 73, Ed - KL7UW From: Ken K3IU To: Wayne Burdick , Elecraft Reflector Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Split operation - display of Transmit frequency on keydown Message-ID: <54e4693f.9020...@cox.net> Content-Type: text/plain; ch

Re: [Elecraft] Split operation - display of Transmit frequency on keydown

2015-02-18 Thread Guy Olinger K2AV
Amen, maybe modulate the off and on at an audio frequency to make it wax and wane instead of blink. Nah, I didn't say that. I really didn't. That strange guy standing over there in the corner, he said it, wasn't me 73, Guy On Wed, Feb 18, 2015 at 1:38 AM, Dwayne Rohmer wrote: > How about C

Re: [Elecraft] Split operation - display of Transmit frequency onkeydown

2015-02-18 Thread Wes (N7WS)
There is no end to the issues with split. I too have a macro that locks VFO A, double taps A->B, holds A->B, and tunes VFO B up 1. (Maybe in a different order, I forget). The end result is that I'm split up 1. Great starting point on CW, but when on SSB and the split is huge (K1N) I may forg

Re: [Elecraft] Split operation - display of Transmit frequency on keydown

2015-02-18 Thread Pierfrancesco Caci
So long as it doesn't also mess up with the output of the FA command. It's already bad enough that the radio stops to respond at all when you press REV, making all the software go in hamlib timeout. Thanks Pf > "Wayne" == Wayne Burdick writes: Wayne> Or, we could replace the *entire

Re: [Elecraft] Split operation - display of Transmit frequency on keydown

2015-02-18 Thread jim
bject: Re: [Elecraft] Split operation - display of Transmit frequency on keydown What I'd like to see is a change to the cursors in the P3. It would be nice if the transmit VFO were always red. So when not split, VFO A would be red, when XIT on, VFO A receive would be green and the XIT offse

Re: [Elecraft] Split operation - display of Transmit frequency on keydown

2015-02-18 Thread jim
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Split operation - display of Transmit frequency on keydown I argued for this a long time ago, but Eric and others convinced me that a flashing Delta-F LED would be "too" (!) annoying. Maybe they will recant, given this discussion. Wayne N6KR On Feb 17, 2015, a

Re: [Elecraft] Split operation - display of Transmit frequency on keydown

2015-02-18 Thread Ted Roycraft
One way you can "drop out of SPLIT" is this. If the "SPLIT SV" menu item is OFF, and you are operating split, if you switch to another band and turn SPLIT off, then come back to the original band, SPLIT will be OFF. Turn "SPLIT SV" ON to fix this. That way, the split status per band is maint

Re: [Elecraft] Split operation - display of Transmit frequency on keydown

2015-02-18 Thread dave
> too easy to unknowingly have the rig "drop out" of > SPLIT I'm curious about this, how does the K3 "drop out of SPLIT"? The only way I know to get into and out of split is to hold the A>B button. Is there some other front panel way? Is there a firmware bug that occasionally causes the K3 to

Re: [Elecraft] Split operation - display of Transmit frequency on keydown

2015-02-18 Thread Mike Reublin NF4L
G! No! If someone, looking at the display, doesn't notice the SPLT, or the down arrow, then I don't think another indicator is gonna do any good. I think the problem lies in NOT looking at the radio in the passion of the chase. If the radio is in split, and the VFO's are equal, then pu

Re: [Elecraft] Split operation - display of Transmit frequency on keydown

2015-02-18 Thread Gary Smith
I'd like to see the option for a fair sized notice saying SPLIT in Red on the right 1/2 of the screen, on the P3/SVGA when I'm in SPLIT operation, I'm more looking at that when I'm chasing in a pileup. Since I have the SVGA, I rarely look at the P3 itself except top select changes and focus

Re: [Elecraft] Split operation - display of Transmit frequency on keydown

2015-02-18 Thread Bob Harvey - K2PI
Please just forget I asked. I give, I give! K2PI On Tue, Feb 17, 2015 at 8:38 PM, Don Wilhelm-4 [via Elecraft] < ml-node+s365791n7598777...@n2.nabble.com> wrote: > How about 'blinking' the intensity of the VFO B display to indicate > SPLIT is turned on. > I don't know how to announce that it is

Re: [Elecraft] Split operation - display of Transmit frequency on keydown

2015-02-18 Thread Terry Schieler
bject: Re: [Elecraft] Split operation - display of Transmit frequency on keydown Or, we could replace the *entire* VFO A display with the word "SPLIT" during key-down. This would be even more obvious, and it wouldn't mess up the VFO B display. VFO B is what you care about during

Re: [Elecraft] Split operation - display of Transmit frequency on keydown

2015-02-18 Thread David Cole
o: d...@nk7z.net > Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Split operation - display of Transmit frequency on > keydown > > I argued for this a long time ago, but Eric and others convinced me that a > flashing Delta-F LED would be "too" (!) annoying. Mayb

Re: [Elecraft] Split operation - display of Transmit frequency on keydown

2015-02-18 Thread Stewart
I know that it's not the K3 display, but I have my MicroHam Keyer II LCD setup in that way. Normally the top display line shows the K3 VFO A and the bottom line VFO B. When transmitting in SPLIT the top line changes to display the same frequency as the bottom line. Very easy to see 73 Stew

Re: [Elecraft] Split operation - display of Transmit frequency on keydown

2015-02-18 Thread Joe Subich, W4TV
> Joe, that is a great idea, but it doesn't go far enough. Some users > might switch off the test mode on purpose. The software can enable it as quickly as the user can disable it . 73, ... Joe, W4TV On 2015-02-18 6:21 AM, Mitch Wolfson DJØQN wrote: Joe, that is a great idea, but it does

Re: [Elecraft] Split operation - display of Transmit frequency on keydown

2015-02-18 Thread Joe Subich, W4TV
I agree with Eric ... the Delta-F lamp is the *third* indicator of split operation and is already rather bright even when MENU:LED BRT is reduced to near the minimum. 73, ... Joe, W4TV On 2015-02-18 1:17 AM, Wayne Burdick wrote: I argued for this a long time ago, but Eric and others convi

Re: [Elecraft] Split operation - display of Transmit frequency on keydown

2015-02-18 Thread Ted Bryant
s usually focused. To be most effective, do not make the flashing optional. 73, Ted W4NZ -Original Message- From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Wayne Burdick Sent: Wednesday, February 18, 2015 1:48 AM To: Dwayne Rohmer Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject:

Re: [Elecraft] Split operation - display of Transmit frequency on keydown

2015-02-18 Thread Doug VE3VS
I have been a K3 user for a few years. The one event that has always bugged me is that it seems way too easy to unknowingly have the rig "drop out" of SPLIT, with the result that I have made far too many transmissions (unwittingly) on the DX calling frequency rather than where the frequency of VFO

Re: [Elecraft] Split operation - display of Transmit frequency on keydown

2015-02-18 Thread Mike K2MK
I think Steve has it correct. Everybody engaged in this discussion obviously understands how to get in and out of split and knows when to use it. I believe that the 3 existing visual indicators on the K3 are adequate. I think the problem occurs because we are not looking at the K3. We are concentra

Re: [Elecraft] Split operation - display of Transmit frequency on keydown

2015-02-18 Thread Jeffrey Otterson
Can we have the radio shout "UP! UP! UP!" and then an exasperated "idiot"? Thanks, Jeff > From: Ken Chandler > To: "" > Cc: > Date: Wed, 18 Feb 2015 09:07:09 + > Subject: [Elecraft] Fwd: Split operation - display of Transmit frequency > on keydown > Wayne > The radio has recording playb

Re: [Elecraft] Split operation - display of Transmit frequency on keydown

2015-02-18 Thread Tony G6GLP
To add a little more fuel to the fire there is another option that could keep the two sides happy. If the main display was to show the active frequency on RX and on TX. I.E when in split mode change the main display to the TX frequency the RX freq then being shown on the sub display and revertin

Re: [Elecraft] Split operation - display of Transmit frequency on keydown

2015-02-18 Thread N2TK, Tony
Thanks Vic and Brendan for your input. I will do that today. N2TK, Tony -Original Message- From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Brendan Minish Sent: Wednesday, February 18, 2015 7:17 AM To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Split operation

Re: [Elecraft] Split operation - display of Transmit frequency on keydown

2015-02-18 Thread Cady, Fred
ebruary 17, 2015 11:17 PM To: d...@nk7z.net Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Split operation - display of Transmit frequency on keydown I argued for this a long time ago, but Eric and others convinced me that a flashing Delta-F LED would be "too" (!) annoying. Ma

Re: [Elecraft] Split operation - display of Transmit frequency on keydown

2015-02-18 Thread Brendan Minish
al Message- From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Wayne Burdick Sent: Wednesday, February 18, 2015 1:17 AM To: d...@nk7z.net Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Split operation - display of Transmit frequency on keydown I argued for this a lon

Re: [Elecraft] Split operation - display of Transmit frequency on keydown

2015-02-18 Thread Vic Rosenthal 4X6GP/K2VCO
Sure. Put BW$; where is the bandwidth/10 desired in the macro assigned to the key. So BW$0200; sets the bandwidth of the subrx to 2 kHz. On 18 Feb 2015 13:31, N2TK, Tony wrote: While we are on this subject, I have PF1 programmed for split up 2KHZ and PF2 programmed for split up 5KHZ. I

[Elecraft] Split operation

2015-02-18 Thread Mike Harris
The flashing led is a good idea. Our visual system seems to be programmed to pick up movement, that is perhaps why some might find it irritating. How many times is something invisible until it moves. However, the bigger problem I feel, illustrated yet again by the recent K1N operation is tha

Re: [Elecraft] Split operation - display of Transmit frequency on keydown

2015-02-18 Thread N2TK, Tony
@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Split operation - display of Transmit frequency on keydown I argued for this a long time ago, but Eric and others convinced me that a flashing Delta-F LED would be "too" (!) annoying. Maybe they will recant, given this discussion. Wayne N6KR On Feb 17, 2015

Re: [Elecraft] Split operation - display of Transmit frequency on keydown

2015-02-18 Thread Doug Turnbull
: 18 February 2015 11:22 To: Joe Subich, W4TV; elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Split operation - display of Transmit frequency on keydown Joe, that is a great idea, but it doesn't go far enough. Some users might switch off the test mode on purpose. In this case, the K3 should i

Re: [Elecraft] Split operation - display of Transmit frequency on keydown

2015-02-18 Thread Mitch Wolfson DJØQN
Joe, that is a great idea, but it doesn't go far enough. Some users might switch off the test mode on purpose. In this case, the K3 should induce an electric shock. Add some voice recognition software, so that when the user says "UP" in simplex mode, the K3 self-destructs. ;-) 73, Mitcn DJ0QN

Re: [Elecraft] Split operation - display of Transmit frequency on keydown

2015-02-18 Thread Vic Rosenthal 4X6GP/K2VCO
I think as you and W4TV have pointed out, there isn't a problem in determining that SPLIT is on. Not noticing that it's OFF is the issue! Wayne can make the radio sit up and whistle 'Dixie' when SPLIT is on and it will not help. I used to be prime cop meat until I made a macro to turn on SPLIT

Re: [Elecraft] Split operation - display of Transmit frequency on keydown

2015-02-18 Thread Ken K3IU
Please leave it alone. The TX marker point to "B" and the "SPLIT" with a border around it is enough. 73, Ken K3IU ~~ On 2/17/2015 7:38 PM, Wayne Burdick wrote: Or, we could replace the *entire* VFO A display with the word "SPLIT" during key-down. Thi

Re: [Elecraft] Split operation - display of Transmit frequency on keydown

2015-02-18 Thread Michael Eberle
How about a menu option for flashing or non-flasing delta f lamp? Sent from my U.S. Cellular® Smartphone Original message From: Wayne Burdick Date:02/18/2015 12:17 AM (GMT-06:00) To: d...@nk7z.net Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Split operation

Re: [Elecraft] Split operation - display of Transmit frequency on keydown

2015-02-18 Thread Stewart
I would like to have the ability to see the split as a Delta frequency display. It is a feature on my old TS180S that I miss on the K3. 73 Stewart G3RXQ On Wed, 18 Feb 2015 00:38:31 -0600, Dwayne Rohmer wrote: > How about CONFIG: DELTA-F LED (nor or FLASH) > > 73, > > Dwayne WV5I > > On 2/18/201

Re: [Elecraft] Split operation - display of Transmit frequency on keydown

2015-02-17 Thread Wayne Burdick
I like it. Wayne On Feb 17, 2015, at 10:38 PM, Dwayne Rohmer wrote: > How about CONFIG: DELTA-F LED (nor or FLASH) > > 73, > > Dwayne WV5I > > On 2/18/2015 12:17 AM, Wayne Burdick wrote: >> I argued for this a long time ago, but Eric and others convinced me that a >> flashing Delta-F LED wo

Re: [Elecraft] Split operation - display of Transmit frequency on keydown

2015-02-17 Thread Dwayne Rohmer
How about CONFIG: DELTA-F LED (nor or FLASH) 73, Dwayne WV5I On 2/18/2015 12:17 AM, Wayne Burdick wrote: I argued for this a long time ago, but Eric and others convinced me that a flashing Delta-F LED would be "too" (!) annoying. Maybe they will recant, given this discussion. Wayne N6KR

Re: [Elecraft] Split operation - display of Transmit frequency on keydown

2015-02-17 Thread Wayne Burdick
I argued for this a long time ago, but Eric and others convinced me that a flashing Delta-F LED would be "too" (!) annoying. Maybe they will recant, given this discussion. Wayne N6KR On Feb 17, 2015, at 10:08 PM, David Cole wrote: > Why not flash the Delta f lamp when in split? > -- > Than

Re: [Elecraft] Split operation - display of Transmit frequency on keydown

2015-02-17 Thread David Cole
Why not flash the Delta f lamp when in split? -- Thanks and 73's, For equipment, and software setups and reviews see: www.nk7z.net for MixW support see; http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/mixw/info for Dopplergram information see: http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/dopplergram/info for MM-SSTV see

Re: [Elecraft] Split operation - display of Transmit frequency on keydown

2015-02-17 Thread Fred Jensen
Joe is right Wayne, you've done a good job, LATFD [look at the ... display!] Chasing K1N, I had N1MM running to send for me at 35 WPM, and it puts a big SPLIT! in front of me. That helped too. But if you're going to change things, on another subject, I'd like you to put my Sweepstakes exchan

Re: [Elecraft] Split operation - display of Transmit frequency on keydown

2015-02-17 Thread Wayne Burdick
That's always a worthy goal. But if enough users have trouble keeping track of a particular state, it's incumbent on the UI designer to come up with a better indication. Wayne N6KR On Feb 17, 2015, at 6:16 PM, wb6r...@mac.com wrote: > THE simplest solution is for the op to just simply pay att

Re: [Elecraft] Split operation - display of Transmit frequency on keydown

2015-02-17 Thread wb6rse1
THE simplest solution is for the op to just simply pay attention. Steve WB6RSE __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net T

Re: [Elecraft] Split operation - display of Transmit frequency on keydown

2015-02-17 Thread Bob Harvey - K2PI
Please let it die. I know now that I was just terribly wrong to ask for a feature that the experts here agree had already been implemented correctly. Let it rest. K2PI On Tue, Feb 17, 2015 at 8:52 PM, Lynn W. Taylor, WB6UUT [via Elecraft] < ml-node+s365791n7598779...@n2.nabble.com> wrote: > May

Re: [Elecraft] Split operation - display of Transmit frequency on keydown

2015-02-17 Thread Will Ravenel
I use MacLoggerDX for my logging program and it automatically applies split to my K3 when selecting a frequency that is spotted as working split. Works great for hunting DX but you’re on your own again in a contest where using spotting aids is not allowed. In this case I’ve become accustomed to

Re: [Elecraft] Split operation - display of Transmit frequency on keydown

2015-02-17 Thread Lynn W. Taylor, WB6UUT
Maybe add speech recognition to the DSP code, so it can recognize when the DX station says it's working split, the radio will refuse to transmit on VFO A. On 2/17/2015 5:38 PM, Don Wilhelm wrote: How about 'blinking' the intensity of the VFO B display to indicate SPLIT is turned on. I don't kn

Re: [Elecraft] Split operation - display of Transmit frequency on keydown

2015-02-17 Thread Don Wilhelm
How about 'blinking' the intensity of the VFO B display to indicate SPLIT is turned on. I don't know how to announce that it is off when it should be on - because that is the normal condition. I guess one has to rely on the "up cops". 73, Don W3FPR On 2/17/2015 7:38 PM, Wayne Burdick wrote:

Re: [Elecraft] Split operation - display of Transmit frequency on keydown

2015-02-17 Thread Joe Subich, W4TV
Looking for the *absence* of a change when the PTT is pressed or the key is tapped to indicate that one has forgotten to engage split is a bit counter intuitive. The *three* current indicators that split is engaged *before* entering transmit are the logical UI. Perhaps the better solution is to

Re: [Elecraft] Split operation - display of Transmit frequency on keydown

2015-02-17 Thread Rick WA6NHC
I'm used to it the way it is now. If I don't notice the SPLIT on the display and the YELLOW delta, the up cops remind me posthaste. :o) Rick wa6nhc On 2/17/2015 4:38 PM, Wayne Burdick wrote: Or, we could replace the *entire* VFO A display with the word "SPLIT" during key-down. This would be

Re: [Elecraft] Split operation - display of Transmit frequency on keydown

2015-02-17 Thread Wayne Burdick
Or, we could replace the *entire* VFO A display with the word "SPLIT" during key-down. This would be even more obvious, and it wouldn't mess up the VFO B display. VFO B is what you care about during split TX. Wayne On Feb 17, 2015, at 4:35 PM, Wayne Burdick wrote: > I share Joe's dislike of

Re: [Elecraft] Split operation - display of Transmit frequency on keydown

2015-02-17 Thread Wayne Burdick
I share Joe's dislike of the idea of changing VFO A to the VFO B frequency during split TX. It's just a major semantic disconnect. However, we could do something like replace the leftmost 3 characters of the VFO B frequency display with "SPL" during key-down. Would that be obnoxious enough? W

Re: [Elecraft] Split operation - display of Transmit frequency on keydown

2015-02-17 Thread Joe Subich, W4TV
Being able to see an immediate feedback when I keydown, letting me know I am in split operation, sure would be nice. The K3 already gives *instant* feedback when in Split operation with *THREE* separate indicators: 1) the (SPLIT) icon on the mail display 2) the "down arrow" pointing to the VF

[Elecraft] Split operation - display of Transmit frequency on keydown

2015-02-17 Thread Bob Harvey - K2PI
Is there an option in the settings, or a planned firmware change, to shift the displayed K3 Frequency to the transmit frequency when working split? I cannot count the number of times I have moved the VFO too far, or simply forgot to reset it back to split operation, only to be screamed at by DX co

Re: [Elecraft] Split Operation with 2 receivers

2014-10-23 Thread d...@lightstream.net
Mike, Try this: -- Tune your main VFO to 3705 -- Tap the "A > B" button twice (to sync both VFO A and B) -- Push and hold the "SUB" button until the VFO B display area indicates "DIVRSTY", after which you should see the decimal point in the main display flashing slowly as confirmation that you

[Elecraft] Split Operation with 2 receivers

2014-10-22 Thread Mike Wetzel
Is there any way to transmit on say 3825 and listen with both receivers on say 3705? Obviously I would be listening with two different antennas (maybe the transmit antenna and a rx antenna). Thanks, Mike W9RE __ Elecraft maili

[Elecraft] Split Operation Update

2012-11-17 Thread Peter Chamalian
I've confirmed the K3 operates as advertised when you change bands using the Band up/down button. Changing bands from N1MM resets the split. I've posted a query on the N1MM reflector and asked for a software modification which I rather suspect could impact any radio unless the code only resets

[Elecraft] Split Operation

2012-11-17 Thread Peter Chamalian
If I'm reading the manual correctly, when I have the config setting SPLT SV set to YES, the K3 should save the split, XIT and RIT information on each band. But, with this value set to YES, and I am split on say 30 meters then change to 20 meters and go back to 30, the sub receiver is still at the

Re: [Elecraft] split operation et all

2011-08-05 Thread Bill W4ZV
GW0ETF wrote: > > > In English cricketing analogy trying to work a split dx station without > being able to hear the station in the pile-up is like trying to hit the > stumps from 25 yards blindfolded. > Until CW Skimmer came along... Now I use Skimmer's "599" mode to identify the last statio

Re: [Elecraft] split operation et all

2011-08-05 Thread GW0ETF
For a step by step guide to this all you need is to read 'The Complete DXer' by W9KNI.. You don't even have to buy it; just read the sample first chapter at www.idiompress.com/books-complete-dxer.html. In English cricketing analogy trying to work a split dx station without being able to hear the s

Re: [Elecraft] split operation et all

2011-08-02 Thread Tony Estep
On Tue, Aug 2, 2011 at 8:59 AM, Dave Sergeant wrote: > Once I had realised that... == Good story, Dave, and your point is so true. And congrats on working him with 5W. Unfortunately, it seems that some folks have a reflex that shuts off their realizers as soon as they hear DX. Tony

Re: [Elecraft] split operation et all

2011-08-02 Thread Dave Sergeant
I have not actually been following this thread but I should add that working split in pileups is an acquired skill. Just managed to grab a QSO with ST0R on 17m CW this morning (5W to my bit of string...). In this case the pileup was spreading 10kHz up the band and sounded fierce. But he was act

[Elecraft] split operation et all

2011-08-02 Thread bob finger
Congrats to Don KD8NNU, for he admits to absorbing the help offered here and he goes so far as to admit he has been reading the K3 manual. With an attitude like this Don may be on the dxcc honor roll before too long. 73 bob de w9ge > > __

Re: [Elecraft] Split operation

2009-10-19 Thread Mike
+ 1 Mike NF4L Merle Bone wrote: > I would also find this option to be helpful. > Merle - W0EWM > > > van fair wrote: > >> I believe that 98% of all of us use split to work DX and this always occurs >> in the same mode. It seems to me that having a menu item that would allow us >> to choose t

Re: [Elecraft] Split operation [END of Thread]

2009-10-18 Thread Eric Swartz -WA6HHQ, Elecraft
uot;Ed Muns" > To: "'van fair'" > Cc: > Sent: Sunday, October 18, 2009 2:47 PM > Subject: RE: [Elecraft] Split operation > > > >>> I believe that 98% of all of us use split to work DX and this >>> always occurs in the same mode. It seem

Re: [Elecraft] Split operation

2009-10-18 Thread van fair
dont affect your having like it is now. 73 Van -- Original Message - From: "Ed Muns" To: "'van fair'" Cc: Sent: Sunday, October 18, 2009 2:47 PM Subject: RE: [Elecraft] Split operation >> I believe that 98% of all of us use split to work DX and this &

Re: [Elecraft] Split operation

2009-10-18 Thread Wayne Burdick
If we make any change at all to split operation, it will be optional. The present behavior will be the default. Wayne http://www.elecraft.com On Oct 18, 2009, at 1:50 PM, "Andy Faber" wrote: > Can I plead for flexibility? Everyone seems to want the most > efficient > split operation

Re: [Elecraft] Split operation

2009-10-18 Thread van fair
nday, October 18, 2009 4:49 PM Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Split operation > Wayne, > If you force the same mode with SPLIT, you will be negating the use of > cross-mode split. > I know standard (same mode) split is much more common, but I believe a > K3 capability for cross-mode s

[Elecraft] split operation

2009-10-18 Thread van fair
To those of you (W3FPR and N2TK) who did not like my suggestion of having a new menu choice to make B mode always equal to A mode apparently did not notice that the other choice you would have is to leave it like it is now. Your choice in the menu mode. What could be wrong with that. The defau

Re: [Elecraft] Split operation

2009-10-18 Thread Andy Faber
Can I plead for flexibility? Everyone seems to want the most efficient split operation for their particular way of using split, but there are other requirements as well. For example, assume a DX station is using a K3 on 40m phone, say at 7055 kHz, and trying to listen both on its own frequenc

Re: [Elecraft] Split operation

2009-10-18 Thread Don Wilhelm
Wayne, If you force the same mode with SPLIT, you will be negating the use of cross-mode split. I know standard (same mode) split is much more common, but I believe a K3 capability for cross-mode split should be available. 73, Don W3FPR Wayne Burdick wrote: > Eric and I will discuss this on Mon

Re: [Elecraft] Split operation

2009-10-18 Thread Merle Bone
I would also find this option to be helpful. Merle - W0EWM van fair wrote: > I believe that 98% of all of us use split to work DX and this always occurs > in the same mode. It seems to me that having a menu item that would allow us > to choose to have VFO B always be in the same mode as VFO A

Re: [Elecraft] Split operation

2009-10-18 Thread Ian White GM3SEK
Arie Kleingeld PA3A wrote: >> >>. A>B is the perfect feature in this application. If the >>menu option made the VFOs equivalent in all VFO parameters (A>B) when it >>invoked SPLIT, that might make sense. In the vast majority of times I go >>into SPLIT, I want to t

Re: [Elecraft] Split operation - Default for Mode B=A

2009-10-18 Thread Richard Ferch
K1ZZI wrote: > Having A and B in \ > different modes must be very rare and certainly not the norm. I wouldn't say it's all that rare. In a mixed-mode contest it can be handy to be able to jump between modes and sub-bands just by hitting the A/B button. If you want to go to a predetermined frequ

Re: [Elecraft] Split operation

2009-10-18 Thread Peter Chamalian
Hey, that's cool! Thanks Eric. Pete, W1RM -Original Message- From: Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft [mailto:e...@elecraft.com] Sent: Sunday, October 18, 2009 3:21 PM To: p...@xs4all.nl Cc: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Split operation Quickly double tap A-&g

Re: [Elecraft] Split operation

2009-10-18 Thread N2TK
man.qth.net] On Behalf Of Ed Muns Sent: Sunday, October 18, 2009 2:47 PM To: 'van fair' Cc: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Split operation > I believe that 98% of all of us use split to work DX and this > always occurs in the same mode. It seems to me that havin

Re: [Elecraft] Split operation

2009-10-18 Thread Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft
Quickly double tap A->B. 73, Eric _..._ -Original Message- From: "Arie Kleingeld PA3A" Date: Sunday, Oct 18, 2009 2:15 pm Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Split operation To: Ed, I agree with you on this. The way you describe it, That's the way I always do it (and done that

Re: [Elecraft] Split operation

2009-10-18 Thread Arie Kleingeld PA3A
Ed, I agree with you on this. The way you describe it, That's the way I always do it (and done that for years with my MP), It would be nice if, after pressing split, the vfo's would be on the same freq and in same mode. This would be a nice short cut. The purist might add that the CW split would

Re: [Elecraft] Split operation

2009-10-18 Thread wb6rse1
When an operation advertises its operating frequencies in advance, as K4M has, it's simple to set up band memories in advance that include mode, SUB on and selected for TX split up. Chance favors those who are prepared. 73 - Steve WB6RSE ___

Re: [Elecraft] Split operation

2009-10-18 Thread Ed Muns
> I believe that 98% of all of us use split to work DX and this > always occurs in the same mode. It seems to me that having a > menu item that would allow us to choose to have VFO B always > be in the same mode as VFO A would be a helpful thing. It > would eliminate the step of always having

Re: [Elecraft] Split operation

2009-10-18 Thread Wayne Burdick
Eric and I will discuss this on Monday. Sounds like a good idea. 73, Wayne http://www.elecraft.com On Oct 18, 2009, at 4:13 AM, "van fair" wrote: > I believe that 98% of all of us use split to work DX and this always > occurs in the same mode. It seems to me that having a menu item that

[Elecraft] Split operation - Default for Mode B=A

2009-10-18 Thread Ralph
etter argument for keeping it the way it is? Ralph K1ZZI Date: Sun, 18 Oct 2009 07:13:06 -0400 From: "van fair" Subject: [Elecraft] Split operation To: Message-ID: <876a7ac9c8634e5d89776409ac209...@vanf1970e3cf72> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" I be

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