Re: [Elecraft] Keying Waveform Measurement

2005-02-10 Thread Leigh L Klotz, Jr.
On Thu, 10 Feb 2005 4:18 am, Stephen W. Kercel wrote: I wonder if a brand new MFJ dry dummy load would be that close. The MFJ dummy load would probably be 51 Ohms after you take it apart and scrape off the paint that insulates the SO239 from the case. Replacing the brads with screws also

RE: [Elecraft] Keying Waveform Measurement

2005-02-09 Thread W3FPR - Don Wilhelm
Steve, The setup pictured is IMHO overkill, but it covers all bases for any kind of transmitter. No doubt the ARRL Lab has a semi-permanent setup for this test, but all that equipment may not be required depending on what you wish to conclude from your test The Keying Test Generator is nothing

RE: [Elecraft] Keying Waveform Measurement

2005-02-09 Thread Stephen W. Kercel
Don: Thanks very much. Yes, the ARRL setup is serious overkill. However, I have a Tek 465, and I thought it would be kind of nifty to try to set it up to look at my keyed waveform. As for the matter of running a 50 Ohm source into a high Z scope input, Tek has a slick solution. They use

RE: [Elecraft] Keying Waveform Measurement

2005-02-09 Thread Roger Stein
Steve, Regarding the Heath CantennaI have been scratching around with power out readings recently and after a search of the archives for the word cantenna yeilded some intersting results. What I thought over all these years (since 1964) a 50 ohm load was actually a 68 ohm load after many

RE: [Elecraft] Keying Waveform Measurement

2005-02-09 Thread Stephen W. Kercel
a difference, but it is good to double check anyway. 73, Don W3FPR -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Stephen W. Kercel Sent: Wednesday, February 09, 2005 3:31 PM To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: RE: [Elecraft] Keying Waveform Measurement

Re: [Elecraft] Keying Waveform Measurement

2005-02-09 Thread G3VVT
In a message dated 09/02/05 20:33:27 GMT Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: As for the matter of running a 50 Ohm source into a high Z scope input, Tek has a slick solution. They use these 50-Ohm 2-Watt terminators that you apply right at the BNC connector at the scope input I

RE: [Elecraft] Keying Waveform Measurement

2005-02-09 Thread Stephen W. Kercel
Roger: The topic is extremely timely. I expect there are a lot of Cantennas still floating around out in Hamdom. One is tempted to naively treat it like a precision 50 Ohm RF load. I measured the DC resistance of mine with a DMM and the reading was 46.1 Ohm. I dimly recall doing some noise

Re: [Elecraft] Keying Waveform Measurement

2005-02-09 Thread Bob - W5BIG
Hi Steve, Check the spec on your scope probe. (try Google). If it can handle the voltage at high frequencies, that is the easiest way to go. 100 watts into 50 ohms has a peak 100 volts (the peak-to-peak is 200V but the probe only sees +/-100 volts max). If you need to make an attenuator, it

Re: [Elecraft] Keying Waveform Measurement

2005-02-09 Thread Stephen W. Kercel
Mark: Yes, you're right; the 465 does have a 20 V/div max using 10:1 probes. The lesson from you is essentially that when all else fails, read the instructions. According to my probe manual, the probes are actually good to 500 V up to 10 MHz, then they derate to about 175 V at 30 MHz. They

Re: [Elecraft] Keying Waveform Measurement

2005-02-09 Thread Stephen W. Kercel
Bob and Bob: Thanks to both. The advice is very useful. 73, Steve AA4AK ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.):

RE: [Elecraft] Keying Waveform Measurement

2005-02-09 Thread Stephen W. Kercel
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