Hey guys, I have a suggestion. Let's take all the
energies used to write to this reflector and use them
to write to the FCC, especially if you are
passionately against this proposal. That's what they
want from us, comments and feedback. Maybe... just
maybe, it will make a difference, but I
On Wed, Jul 20, 2005 at 10:29:32PM -0700, EricJ wrote:
And those of us who took our 13 wpm AND 20 wpm code tests in front of a
grumpy FCC Inspector waiting for retirement instead of a collegial VE buddy
can't stand to be in the same room with ANY of you guys!
Eric
KE6US
Bah, humbug!
Many
In a message dated 7/21/05 1:30:45 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
those of us who took our 13 wpm AND 20 wpm code tests in front of a
grumpy FCC Inspector waiting for retirement instead of a collegial VE buddy
can't stand to be in the same room with ANY of you guys!
For the first time, I elmered a ham recently who is pretty darned
excited about learning morse code. He realized how much fun it was at
our field day site. While he was trying to make SSB contacts, we were
making CW contacts left and right...
I am now trying to talk him into a K2 :)
72/73
]
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2005 7:48 AM
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Sad day for amateur radio
For the first time, I elmered a ham recently who is pretty darned
excited about learning morse code. He realized how much fun it was at
our field day site. While he was trying to make SSB
Jeez. I can't believe I'm commenting on this (or maybe I can?) But
before Eric comes in and closes down this thread as OT, here goes.
First, I think I'd've been happier if the 5 WPM requirement was still
in place for Extra, at least. I won't lose any sleep over the fact
that it probably
I applaud the action of the FCC in removing the requirement to pass a
code test. It is both an obstacle to entering amateur radio for those
with no interest in code, and an obstacle to using the code for those
who have learned it just to pass a low speed test.
I recently refused a request to
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From: Julian, G4ILO [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Elecraft List elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2005 9:19 AM
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Sad day for amateur radio
I applaud the action of the FCC in removing
I have some mixed feelings about this, but I think it's generally for the
better (I still can't believe I'm saying that). For a long time I was
against no code, less code, etc. Like many others I took all of the various
speed CW tests to get to Novice, General and Extra. I felt that many of the
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From: Julian, G4ILO [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Elecraft List elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2005 9:19 AM
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Sad day for amateur radio
I applaud the action of the FCC in removing the requirement to pass a
code test
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In a message dated 7/21/05 1:30:45 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
those of us who took our 13 wpm AND 20 wpm code tests in front of a
grumpy FCC Inspector waiting for retirement instead of a collegial VE
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Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Sad day for amateur radio
On Wed, Jul 20, 2005 at 10:29:32PM -0700, EricJ wrote:
And those of us who took our 13 wpm AND 20 wpm code tests in front of
a grumpy FCC Inspector waiting for retirement instead of a collegial
VE buddy can't stand to be in the same room
Code has been an artificial barrier to entry for a long time. I fought every
attempt to reduce or eliminate code. In the end, the joke was on me. Reducing
it didn't hurt ham radio, and eliminating it will most likely help. Not to
swell our
ranks, but to bring in quality people who will
In the interest of keeping list traffic under control and in not drowning out
our regular traffic, let's let this thread rest for now. If everyone posts their
opinion on it well have well over 2000 emails.
I'm sure it will have a very spirited discussion on hundreds of other forums ;-)
73, Eric
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From: Craig Rairdin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2005 10:59 AM
Subject: RE: RE: [Elecraft] Sad day for amateur radio
| Code has been an artificial barrier to entry for a long time. I fought every
| attempt to reduce or eliminate code
Larry, N8LP wrote
Sad day for amateur radio
--
Not at all, Larry!
The FCC has simply told us Hams in the USA that it's time to set our own
agenda. They recognize that there's a huge interest in CW and that it's one
of the most popular modes today,
I guess I should have read it more completely. Yes, I guess it's just
another case of deregulation, and I suppose we don't need the government
telling us to like cw ;-)
BTW, I too have that pretty blue piece of wallpaper on my wall, although
I did need it way back when ;-)
73,
Larry N8LP
I read the entire NPRM. They make their case well, but they ignore some
logical extensions of their arguments.
If the telegraphy requirement is defined simply as demonstrating basic
ability in one mode of communication and is therefore unnecessary becase
skill in other modes is not required, then
You're right on, Ron. I left most of my hearing in SE Asia 40 years
ago, and CW is my choice, particularly for contesting. I worked my way
through college in the late 50's/early 60's in FM and TV broadcast with
a 1st phone. I still hold the wallpaper you mentioned. I worked my
senior year
On Thursday 21 July 2005 01:33, Craig Rairdin wrote:
OTOH I know I'm dangerously close to sounding like an Old Fart. I'm somewhat
disgusted to think that there will be Extra Class licensees that don't know
code but will be indistinguishable from me. (At the same time, the fastest
code test I
On Wed, 20 Jul 2005, Craig Rairdin wrote:
OTOH I know I'm dangerously close to sounding like an Old Fart. I'm somewhat
disgusted to think that there will be Extra Class licensees that don't know
code but will be indistinguishable from me. (At the same time, the fastest
code test I passed was
, July 20, 2005 9:57 PM
Subject: RE: [Elecraft] Sad day for amateur radio
On Wed, 20 Jul 2005, Craig Rairdin wrote:
OTOH I know I'm dangerously close to sounding like an Old Fart. I'm
somewhat
disgusted to think that there will be Extra Class licensees that don't
know
code
so there are probably
some 20 WPM Extras out there who can't stand to be in the room with me,
either.)
I took my extra in 1978, in Fargo, ND, if I can recall correctly, the code
speed was actually 21 wpm. However, I may be one of the weird ones, but I
don't look down on any hams, whether
At the same time, the fastest
code test I passed was 13 WPM for my General in 1974, so there are probably
some 20 WPM Extras out there who can't stand to be in the room with me,
either.
This 20 WPM Extra Class licensee will welcome the No Code Extras and do
my best to help them discover and
On Wed, 20 Jul 2005, Paul Gates wrote:
One other thing Thom When I got my Extra in 2002 @ 72 years old, there
were Extra's who were unhappy about 5WPM So I said, OK guys I passed a
13 WPM test for your information. And, let's get down to brass tacks I
will take a 20wpm test and you
Back in the day, when I had the blue paper (FCC First Phone) and the white
paper (FCC Second CW) and the blue and white paper (Amateur Extra acquired
before the days of incentive licensing) I considered that any compromise on
the code requirement would lead directly to the demise of Western
] On Behalf Of Craig Rairdin
Sent: Wednesday, July 20, 2005 6:33 PM
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: RE: [Elecraft] Sad day for amateur radio
OTOH I know I'm dangerously close to sounding like an Old Fart. I'm somewhat
disgusted to think that there will be Extra Class licensees that don't know
Aren't those F.A.R.T.S. just called Sailmail customers for FCC purposes?
Eric
KE6US
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Sailboaters.
Thom
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