Re: [Elecraft] K3 Accessory Connector

2007-08-29 Thread Charles Harpole
Along with the Anderson power poles, here is another bad choice for connector... the multi pin thing that is now used on computers for serial and parallel interface (in some pin number or other) was a stupid choice on computers and is even worse on a ham rig. My electronic engineer tells me

Re: [Elecraft] K3 Accessory Connector

2007-08-29 Thread Julian G4ILO
I am surprised that you suggest these D connectors will only withstand 25 connections and disconnections. What do you suggest would be better? Many ham radios (including my FT-817) and other gear use the awful mini-DIN connectors with tiny pins that are about the thickness of a piece of wire. An

Re: [Elecraft] K3 Accessory Connector

2007-08-29 Thread Julian G4ILO
I found this specification sheet http://www.erni.com/DB/PDF/TMC/ERNI-TMC-Connectors-e.pdf which suggests that these connectors are good for 200 mating cycles (bet that doesn't get past the spam filter!) That's more than enough for me, though I see a 500 cycle rated version is also available.

Re: [Elecraft] K3 Accessory Connector

2007-08-29 Thread David Pratt
In a recent message, Charles Harpole [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote ... but much more than reliability is the issue of USE-ABILITY. The K3 is a field radio and under the most remote and demanding condx, anderson Powerpole and these D thingies are the first frustrations Are you suggesting that

Re: [Elecraft] K3 Accessory Connector

2007-08-29 Thread Goody K3NG
A stupid choice? In my meager 18 year IT Electronics career I've never seen a D-sub failure beyond mashed pins (which was due to operator error or abuse). I've seen these go through hundreds of matings with no problem. Also, you can still get these connectors at Radio Shaft, so I think it's a

Re: Re: [Elecraft] K3 Accessory Connector

2007-08-29 Thread d.cutter
Somebody mentioned the reliability of military connectors. One well-known military connector (Pattern 105 series) used in millions has a 500 insertions limit. Reliability is calculated from a change of resistance beyond a given limit at a given current, ambient temperature, etc. Most

Re: [Elecraft] K3 Accessory Connector

2007-08-29 Thread John Huggins
Charles Harpole wrote: So called D connectors have design specifications issued by various mfg of them. Most list a limited life of 10 to 30 plug/unplug cycles. That is from the designers. Of course, hams often push design specs well beyond those published... 10-30 plug/unplug cycles

RE: [Elecraft] K3 Accessory Connector

2007-08-29 Thread Brett gazdzinski
Kind of silly, I have regular normal D connectors that have worked fine after many thousands or connects and disconnects. I cant say I ever had a problem with the old stuff, it's the new stuff that lasts a month, like cell phone charger hookups. Brett N2DTS

RE: [Elecraft] K3 Accessory Connector

2007-08-29 Thread Fred N. van Kempen
Brett writes: Kind of silly, I have regular normal D connectors that have worked fine after many thousands or connects and disconnects. I tend to agree... my 1972-era PDP-11 systems all have D-shell connectors for most I/O, and guess what, they still work fine. And yeah, that's slightly

Re: [Elecraft] K3 Accessory Connector

2007-08-29 Thread R. Kevin Stover
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 This is whole argument is ridiculous! ANYBODY, who mates and de-mates a sub-D connector more than 50 times needs to sit down and take a serious look at their operating practices. A Cinch-Jones accessory connector? Come on! Why is the ridiculous Molex

Re: [Elecraft] K3 Accessory Connector

2007-08-29 Thread Mark Bayern
Come on! Why is the ridiculous Molex connector considered a standard? Not because it's any better than the APP but because it's what the manufacturers could get for pennies per connector. I designed a CNC control in the middle 70's and we used Molex connectors for DC power connections to the

Re: [Elecraft] K3 Accessory Connector

2007-08-29 Thread N2EY
In a message dated 8/29/07 7:38:51 AM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: You can go to Circuit City and purchase an SVGA extension cable, cut off one end and you have a prefab cable (no connector soldering). Don't even have to do that. As flat-panel displays have become

Re: [Elecraft] K3 Accessory Connector

2007-08-29 Thread Paul Ferguson
but much more than reliability is the issue of USE-ABILITY. The K3 is a field radio and under the most remote and demanding condx, anderson Powerpole and these D thingies are the first frustrations UNLESS For those who think the D and Anderson connectors are such a big problem,

Re: [Elecraft] K3 Accessory Connector

2007-08-29 Thread Mike S
At 03:59 AM 8/29/2007, Charles Harpole wrote... So called D connectors have design specifications issued by various mfg of them. Most list a limited life of 10 to 30 plug/unplug cycles. That is from the designers. You must be looking at some cheap Chinese clone. Please cite the other

Re: [Elecraft] K3 Accessory Connector

2007-08-29 Thread Goody K3NG
Cinch Jones made sense back when you needed pins to handle 10 or 15 amps of filament supply and manufacturing couldn't technically or economically produce some of the connectors we have today. It's an antiquated connector for things like audio and control lines. I always thought the Molex

Re: [Elecraft] K3 Accessory Connector

2007-08-29 Thread Chris Kantarjiev
The JA folks who gave us DIN connectors This made me chuckle. DIN stands for Deutsche Industrie Norm ... it was the DL folks who created them :-) The original 3- and 5-pin connectors have been used on audio gear since the 50s, and have *always* been a nuisance to solder :-) The D series of

RE: [Elecraft] K3 Accessory Connector

2007-08-28 Thread Ed Muns
I THINK that the K3 accessory connector is a standard 15-pin high density D-sub female connector. Is this correct? The connector in the photo only has 14 pins. I'm placing an order to Mouser and I want to go ahead and get a couple of male connectors. The HD-15 D-sub male is Mouser

Re: [Elecraft] K3 Accessory Connector

2007-08-28 Thread Lyle Johnson
I THINK that the K3 accessory connector is a standard 15-pin high density D-sub female connector. Is this correct? Yes, it is. DE-15P is the mating connector. 73, Lyle KK7P ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a