[Elecraft] Fw: FS K2#2571

2004-11-03 Thread Brent Sutphin WB4X

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Sent: Friday, October 29, 2004 4:58 AM
Subject: FS K2#2571


 I built this K2 with great care and have enjoyed it very much.  It is a
 proven preformer. I
 have worked all states QRP and  worked 135 countries using it.  It is a
 great rig, but I want to build another.  So I offer this one for sale.
 It is in excellent condition and comes with many options.

 K2 - serial number 2571

 Firmware upgraded to version 2.03d and 1.07

 KNB2 - Noise Blanker
 KAF2 - Audio filter/clock
 KIO2 RS 232 Interface
 KSB2 - SSB
 KAT2 - 20 watt antenna tuner
 Serial cable
 Radioshack hand mic


 The K2 has teh following upgrades;

 BFOMDKT - BFO Toroid  PLL Ref Osc Xtal Upgrade
 FWK2MCIO - K2 MCU IOC Upgrade
 K2ATOBKT - K2 Rev A to B Upgrade
 K2KSB2XTLS - Matched Filter Crystals
 XFLMDKT - 2nd Filter Upgrade
 .

 All manuals and documentation

 $895 + shipping/insurance. Please email if you have any questions

 Thanks
 Brent  WB4X

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RE: [Elecraft] Comparing HexKey CW Paddle

2004-11-03 Thread Daniel . Pawlak
Along the same lines, do you think the Hexkey would be a good key for
someone trying to re-learn the code (I passed the 5 wpm element to get
my Tech Plus in 1996, but have yet to use it)?
Thanks for any comments.
73,
Dan  KF4KKF

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Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Comparing HexKey CW Paddle

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Has anyone been able to compare the new HexKey to keys made by Begali
or
Schurr?  I have a Schurr Portable Wabbler and have had my eyes on the
Graciella Vertical Key. Just wondering how thy compare.

 

Jeff Burns

AD9T

 

I purchased one upon learning of the availability of them and I've been 
using it for about a week and a half now.  I cannot make comparisons to 
Begali, Schurr or any other of the legendary keys -- I'm used to my 
Bencher BY-1 (which is not a bad paddle at all, IMHO), a Vibroplex 
single lever paddle, a Vibroplex Iambic paddle (emblazoned with a 
Ten-Tec logo a la Elecraft's on the HexKey), a Palm mini-paddle and 
that's all I can think of at the moment.  I'd rate this HexKey of the 
most stable both in terms of weight (it ain't gonna move around and I 
slap the paddles fairly hard!) and in terms of holding a minimal spacing

setting, it's the best of the keys I've used. 

But if you're in the Begali or Schurr league...I just don't know

73,

Joe, W2RBA


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Re: [Elecraft] 3rd K2 and BPL

2004-11-03 Thread Brian Mury
On Wed, 2004-03-11 at 09:23 -0800, Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft wrote:
 I think that even in the worst case 
 scenario you will have had time to build, use and sell many K2s (and 
 other new products from us) before you would notice any major impact to 
 your daily operating on the air.

Even if ham radio ceased to exist, I'd still be happy building Elecraft
kits as a hobby - building them is even more fun than using them! :-)

 We have a lot of goodies in the design pipeline :-)

That's what I like to hear...

Just finished building my first option for my K2 - the KSB2. I'm working
on the KPA100 now. I'll probably build the KDSP2 next. This is
addictive...

-- 
73, Brian
VE7NGR

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RE: [Elecraft] Hum Coupling

2004-11-03 Thread Masleid, Michael A.
Hello Allen,

My guess is that magnetic fields from power transformers are either 1) being 
picked up by L30, or 2) that the magnetic fields are going through the cores 
of L30 and/or T5, and modulating the effective permeabilities of these 
cores. This will cause a modulation of inductance, and thus a modulation of 
the VFO frequency.

The magnetic field is picked up by L30.

To work best, the magnetic shield should completely surround the susceptible 
parts.

Putting the shield on only one side seems to make things worse.

Here's a possibility for experimenting with K2 susceptibility: Try using one 
of those bulk tape erasers near it. They put out huge 60Hz fields. [Just 
don't get it near your credit/bank cards!]

Of course, keep it away from the latching relays.

I used a tape head demagnetizer.  Placing the probe near the base of L30 causes
a vast huge amount of FM.  Don't try this unless you cut the current way down.

Looking on the scope, FM modulation is at 60 Hz, not 120 Hz, so we're not 
modulating
the permeability, we seem to be inducing a 60 Hz voltage onto L30/T5 which is
modulating the varacters.

What I don't understand is this:  I figure L30 has perhaps 14 turns, and 2.3 
ohms
winding resistance.  I figure that the effective aperture is 1 cm squared.  I 
figure
that the winding resistance of T5 is 0.05 ohms, so a 1 gauss vertical 60 Hz 
field will
induce 37 micro volts on T5.  That should cause 0.3 Hz FM modulation on 80 
meters.
No one should notice that?  BTW, I calculated 2.3 ohms from the Q, sensitivity 
at
T5 goes way up if L30 has less resistance.

I know that the cup and core used in L30 will focus any external field through 
the
winding, but I don't know how to calculate how much.

It would be nice if someone could put an L30 (TOKO T1005Z 4.7 uH) into a 
Helholtz
coil and get the numbers on it (uV/gauss at 60Hz, winding resistance).

73, Michael
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[Elecraft] Cost Effective Balun

2004-11-03 Thread jeff_list
I have read a lot about baluns, and still cannot decide what to get. I have
a KAT100 and, want to experiment with several antennas fed with open wire
line. 

 

From all the discussions of baluns I have a formed a few impressions.

 

1.  For QRP operation the balun is probably not needed. 
2.  Use a 1:1 balun unless you know your antenna system has high
impedance on all bands of operation. 
3.  For multi-band operation make the balun really big to handle any
waste heat.  

 

With these ideas in mind I am tempted to get a super heavy duty balun like
the ones form DX Engineering. The $100 plus price tag on these big baluns is
encouraging me to take a look at cheaper alternatives. 

 

One alternative is to make a heavy duty balun form a kit. Any comments on
the various kits available? Two sources I have located are:
http://www.amidoncorp.com/aai_cost_experimenter.htm and
http://thewireman.com/index.shtml

 

Another alternative is Elecraft's BL1. Is this little balun really up to
100W service for multi-band antennas?  Has anyone found a good enclosure for
the BL1? Can a switch be used to switch from 1:1 to 1:4 configurations? 

 

Thanks for taking one more look at this old topic. 

 

Jeff Burns

AD9T

  

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[Elecraft] Digipan 2.0 question

2004-11-03 Thread James T. Jim Rogers
I note Digipan has a setup for some of the Icom radios to use serial 
data
to command TX and RX negating the need to use DTR of any of the port control
signals. Does anyone know if any of these selections are compatible with the
K2?

73, Jim W4ATK
K2 #4028

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Re: [Elecraft] Comparing HexKey CW Paddle

2004-11-03 Thread Doug Forman
No opportunity to compare the HexKey to anything yet.  When I placed my 
order on the Elecraft website last week, I got an email confirmation 
the next day saying the KHXKEY is on backorder for approximately 5 
weeks...


-de  N7BNT Doug

===

On Nov 1, 2004, at 6:00 PM, Jeff Burns wrote:

Has anyone been able to compare the new HexKey to keys made by Begali 
or

Schurr?  I have a Schurr Portable Wabbler and have had my eyes on the
Graciella Vertical Key. Just wondering how thy compare.



Jeff Burns

AD9T



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[Elecraft] Putting the K2 in K2ZR/FD; 3rd in 1A-b

2004-11-03 Thread Mark S. Adams, P.E.

Hi Gang,

Just a quick gloat from the Buffalo Lighthouse Crew 1A-Battery FD event 
2004.  We finished 3rd using my K2 (SN543) and 4 Windoms hung from the top 
of the Buffalo Lighthouse.  The K2 continues to be THE radio for this type 
of operation.  Any laptop and a K2 can go the full event without making a 
deep cycle battery breath hard :-)  And the other group operating from the 
USS Sullivans, just a stones throw up the shipping channel, and operating 
with real power, is not even noticed unless we are on the exact same 
frequency working each other.


It also helps having a very nice antenna setup.  K2ZR built 4 Windoms cut 
for 80M using 4:1 current baluns.  They were hung as slopers in 4 compass 
directions and run to an antenna switch with 4 equal lengths of coax.  A 
piece of LMR600 then ran to the operating position. The antennas had low 
SWR on all the bands making for low unmatched losses and child's play for 
the K2's internal tuner.  It was great to be able to have gain in 4 
directions at the flick of a switch.


See y'all in FD 2005, same weekend, same place.  Oh, next year we'll be 
looking to close some more of the gap between us and our 2 rivals K6MI 
and N4BP. (Yeah, I know it's not a contest.)


73,
Mark K2QO
Buffalo Lighthouse Crew
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Re: [Elecraft] Ham shop nr Washington DC

2004-11-03 Thread Nick Verbeek
Thanks for all the response.
Looks like it is more then a little detour and also I found that HRO does
not sell the Sierra sidekick.
Next time better
Nick, PAØNCV



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Subject: [Elecraft] Ham shop nr Washington DC


I am flying this friday into Washington (Dulles Int'l), rent a car and will
drive north towards Harrisburg (PA).
All for only a short visit.
Is there any respectable Ham radio shop in the area where I can do some
shopping without going into too much of a detour?
I am actually looking to buy a Sierra mobile whip (or similar)

Anybody from the area with a suggestion?

73, Nick, PAØNCV

K2 #1510
KX-1 # 681

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[Elecraft] Re: Putting the K2 in K2ZR/FD; 3rd in 1A-b

2004-11-03 Thread wayne burdick

Nice work, Mark!

Several K2 users have mentioned how well the rig worked for them at 
Field Day. This is gratifying for Eric and me, since that's exactly 
what we designed it for   :)


Now if I could just get out of the lab and into the great outdoors more 
often


73,
Wayne
N6KR


On Nov 3, 2004, at 1:34 PM, Mark S. Adams, P.E. wrote:


Hi Gang,

Just a quick gloat from the Buffalo Lighthouse Crew 1A-Battery FD 
event 2004.  We finished 3rd using my K2 (SN543) and 4 Windoms hung 
from the top of the Buffalo Lighthouse.  The K2 continues to be THE 
radio for this type of operation.  Any laptop and a K2 can go the full 
event without making a deep cycle battery breath hard :-)  And the 
other group operating from the USS Sullivans, just a stones throw up 
the shipping channel, and operating with real power, is not even 
noticed unless we are on the exact same frequency working each 
other


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Re: [Elecraft] Cost Effective Balun

2004-11-03 Thread Charles Greene

Jeff,

Someone has misinformed you a little.  See below:


At 03:31 PM 11/3/2004, you wrote:

I have read a lot about baluns, and still cannot decide what to get. I have
a KAT100 and, want to experiment with several antennas fed with open wire
line.



From all the discussions of baluns I have a formed a few impressions.



1.  For QRP operation the balun is probably not needed.


Depends on the feed line.  I guess you can run the KAT2 on the K2 into a 
balanced line by grounding one side.  Works.  Probably works better with a 
balun.



2.  Use a 1:1 balun unless you know your antenna system has high
impedance on all bands of operation.


A 1:1 balun actually works as well feeding an open wire line as the more 
common 4:1 current balun.  Take a G5RV for example.  The bands where the 
impedance is closer to 50 ohms and those where it is closer to 200 ohms are 
about the same.  The current baluns works better for this application.  A 
1:1 balun is a current balun.  You have to be careful that the balun or kit 
you buy is a current balun.  Most will say, but some don't.



3.  For multi-band operation make the balun really big to handle any
waste heat.


This is wrong.  First of all, if you are going to waste power, a big balun 
or a small balun will waste the same.  You just won't notice it on a large 
balun.  I have used a 2 core balun using F-114-43 cores on 100 watts with a 
reactive load with a SWR of 5:1 without the balun getting hot.  Measured 
efficiency on the balun under these conditions was about 93%.  Losses at100 
watts were 7 watts, well under 1 dB.  Efficiency into a 200 ohm load was 97%.






With these ideas in mind I am tempted to get a super heavy duty balun like
the ones form DX Engineering. The $100 plus price tag on these big baluns is
encouraging me to take a look at cheaper alternatives.



One alternative is to make a heavy duty balun form a kit. Any comments on
the various kits available? Two sources I have located are:
http://www.amidoncorp.com/aai_cost_experimenter.htm and
http://thewireman.com/index.shtml


With the idea that you don't need a KW balun for 100 watts,  try the 
Elecraft BL1.  LDG has a kit, in an enclosure.  It works ok, but it is a 
voltage balun and not a current balun.  Also, NJQRP offered a low power 
(read 100 watts) balun  kit in 2002.  Details are at www.njqrp.org under 
retired projects.  You can buy the parts yourself.  They will run $15 to 
$20 at most.






Another alternative is Elecraft's BL1. Is this little balun really up to
100W service for multi-band antennas?


Yes.  I never measured its efficiency, but it should be about the same as 
the NJQRP kit.  It covers 160 to 6 meters, where the NJQRP kit covered 160 
to 10 meters.



 Has anyone found a good enclosure for
the BL1? Can a switch be used to switch from 1:1 to 1:4 configurations?


Possible, but not a good idea.  Really not needed.


I use Bud plastic enclosures which you can buy from a distributor or a 
similar one from Radio Shack.  I have a nice two core balun ala NJQRP built 
into a Sucrets box.






Thanks for taking one more look at this old topic.


Anytime.

73,  Chas




Jeff Burns

AD9T



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[Elecraft] HFPack amp kit

2004-11-03 Thread Carl Morris, WN3DUG

Steve, KZ1X,

Thanks for copying my Ad to the Elecraft List!

Just wanted to let everyone know that the HF Pack
Amp Kit has been sold!

I built the Elecraft KPA100 Kit instead, for my K2.

73, Carl, WN3DUG

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[Elecraft] K2 S/N 4226 60m VCO value

2004-11-03 Thread Kenyon Cox
Greetings All,

Finished up the 60meter module, and ran into a hitch during the 40/60
meter alignment (p. 13).

VCO voltage at R30 was only 0.87 volts at 5300.  At 5450, VCO was  1.0
volts.

Re-checked the VCO numbers for other bands, and at 4.0 MHz, the Voltage
was at 6.0 volts.

After checking components (OK), and solder joints (OK), and perusing the
archives, arrived at the decision to adjust L30 to get the 1.0 volt
(minimum) at 5300.  I then checked other VCO values for the band(s)
edges, and the max VCO was 7.0 volts at 4.0 MHz.  

L30 was adjusted about 1/4 turn clockwise (about where the factory had
it, originally).

It _appears_ that this set up is OK based upon what I read in the
archives, although no one has commented on this problem with addition of
the K60XV.

Comments?  Questions?  Is My K2 Ruined (IMK2R) ?

Thanks,

Kenyon Cox
WD8INS
Belpre, OH

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RE: [Elecraft] Hum Coupling

2004-11-03 Thread A Walker

Hi Michael,

Thanks for your comments. I think you are on to something.

The only hope for lower magnetic field susceptibility for the K2 would be if 
either the VFO circuit were changed so as not to use an inductor for 
adjusting the quiescent resonance point of the VFO, or good magnetic 
shielding were used. One possibility would be to use a gapped pot core with 
slug tuning for L30, but it might be difficult to get sufficient adjustment 
range. Or, perhaps one could use some kind of shield for L30 alone. The 
standard sort of thing for low-level or precise RF circuits is to enclose 
them all in steel shielding, with steel partitions between circuit sections 
or stages (it's called egg crating). It's something Elecraft could keep in 
mind for a K3.


If I had a K2 in front of me, I think I would try to put some kind of 
shielding around L30. Here is the web site of one vendor of shielding 
materials:


http://www.lessemf.com/mag-shld.html

By the way, I would guess that the Q of that Toko T1005 coil is determined 
by not only DC resistive loss in the wire, but also skin effect loss and 
core loss (and circulating currents from distributed capacitance, etc., 
etc.). I suppose we will never know for sure, as RF work at some point gets 
very empirical -- we just have to try it out, and if it works we're on to 
solving the next problem.


Best of luck,
73, Allen Walker


From: Masleid, Michael A. [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: A Walker [EMAIL PROTECTED]
CC: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: RE: [Elecraft] Hum Coupling
Date: Wed, 03 Nov 2004 13:01:47 -0600

Hello Allen,

My guess is that magnetic fields from power transformers are either 1) 
being
picked up by L30, or 2) that the magnetic fields are going through the 
cores

of L30 and/or T5, and modulating the effective permeabilities of these
cores. This will cause a modulation of inductance, and thus a modulation 
of

the VFO frequency.

The magnetic field is picked up by L30.

To work best, the magnetic shield should completely surround the 
susceptible parts.


Putting the shield on only one side seems to make things worse.

Here's a possibility for experimenting with K2 susceptibility: Try using 
one

of those bulk tape erasers near it. They put out huge 60Hz fields. [Just
don't get it near your credit/bank cards!]

Of course, keep it away from the latching relays.

I used a tape head demagnetizer.  Placing the probe near the base of L30 
causes
a vast huge amount of FM.  Don't try this unless you cut the current way 
down.


Looking on the scope, FM modulation is at 60 Hz, not 120 Hz, so we're not 
modulating
the permeability, we seem to be inducing a 60 Hz voltage onto L30/T5 which 
is

modulating the varacters.

What I don't understand is this:  I figure L30 has perhaps 14 turns, and 
2.3 ohms
winding resistance.  I figure that the effective aperture is 1 cm squared.  
I figure
that the winding resistance of T5 is 0.05 ohms, so a 1 gauss vertical 60 Hz 
field will
induce 37 micro volts on T5.  That should cause 0.3 Hz FM modulation on 80 
meters.
No one should notice that?  BTW, I calculated 2.3 ohms from the Q, 
sensitivity at

T5 goes way up if L30 has less resistance.

I know that the cup and core used in L30 will focus any external field 
through the

winding, but I don't know how to calculate how much.

It would be nice if someone could put an L30 (TOKO T1005Z 4.7 uH) into a 
Helholtz

coil and get the numbers on it (uV/gauss at 60Hz, winding resistance).

73, Michael


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[Elecraft] K2 - SN4511 Diffuser Question

2004-11-03 Thread Malcolm Taylor
Hi all,

Received today in post K2 S/N 4511. Just doing inventory check at this point 
but trying to make sure I understand work task. I am a bit confused with LCD 
backlight diffuser. It has a really nasty looking thin film on top which 
appears to be protective only then below it another matt white thin film which 
appears to be attached at LED ends of the diffuser only. Looking at the 
instructions it appears to say that I should not remove any of these. Help 
please. Do I remove the top one which looks awful, both or none?

Thanks

Malcolm, K1VZ
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