[Elecraft] KRX3

2008-08-05 Thread Tom W8JI
I just finished putting together a K3, I've looked at the manuals, and I have a question. I have identical filters in the main and second receivers. Stock filters plus FL2 2.1kHz and FL3 400Hz. How do I know the roofing filters in the KRX3 are being selected? Are they automatically

Re: [Elecraft] KRX3 (and clarifier)

2008-08-06 Thread Tom W8JI
The KRX3 manual explains how to set parameters on the second receiver, including filter settings. The manual is available on the Elecraft web site. The quick answer is to use the BSET hold function on the front panel to configure settings in the second receiver and SUB to enable the

Re: [Elecraft] Re: K3 Audio

2008-08-06 Thread Tom W8JI
For the benefit of W8JI ... saturation is a good description of the behavior. When adjusting the Line Out level above 1V peak, any single tone in the audio spectrum appears to be clipped at the 1V level. Although this could be due to clipping in the audio amplifier, given the manual warning,

Re: [Elecraft] Re: K3 Audio

2008-08-06 Thread Tom W8JI
It's a 600 ohm transformer, rated for 7dBm max (about 1.7 Vrms across 600 ohms). Bob NW8L But that doesn't mean it distorts or saturates. It is simply a rating. My K3 for example on a good Agilent selective level meter starts to distort at -5dB reference to 1 milliwatt into 600 ohms.

Re: [Elecraft] bnc connector

2008-08-07 Thread Tom W8JI
Most hams know that the standard BNC (not the mini version) should handle 200-300 watts and not be pushed higher, altho likely will go higher for some time. The BNC, either 50 or 75 ohm, is dimensionally almost identical to the 50-ohm style type N connector. As a matter of fact we use BNC

Re: [Elecraft] u want nice audio?

2008-08-07 Thread Tom W8JI
It's what us humans do. And that's why so much effort is put into making truly objective observations. That's very hard for humans to do, if we are able to do so at all. Ron AC7AC Amen. The whole purpose of the scientific method is to try to eliminate scientists' subjectivity from their

Re: [Elecraft] K3 AGC Settings Tutorial

2008-08-08 Thread Tom W8JI
It is true that the AGC pertains to the radio and not the band, but the optimal AGC threshold setting does vary by band. On 80m, for example, I set the AGC threshold on my Ten-Tec Orion at about 20uV. On 10m, where the noise level is very low, I set it at 0.5uV. The Orion, incidentally, has

Re: [Elecraft] K2 power setting for SSB QRP?

2008-08-09 Thread Tom W8JI
- if I set my power level at 5W my CW key-down output power will actually be 5W - if I set my power level at 10W my SSB PEP output power will actually be 10W (avg power somewhat less) ...or relatively close to this. Right? If SWR is very good. To get the true power with a load mismatch

Re: [Elecraft] More Balanced Current Measurements - Voltage Balun

2008-08-14 Thread Tom W8JI
I had previously posted some RF Current data using an MFJ-835 Balanced RF Current meter. I measured the amount of current flowing in each side of my ladder line I'm pretty sure that unit doesn't actually indicate balance. I'm pretty sure it only indicates equal currents by sampling scalar

Re: [Elecraft] Re: K3 KRX3 - BNC or KAT3?

2008-08-14 Thread Tom W8JI
There is only one AUX input physical connection on the KRX3. At assembly, one must select which, if any, aux input source will be used... either the non-tx KAT3 ant or the separate BNC connector. That necessitates the selection of Ant=bnc or Ant=Atu . When I installed the KRX3, I physically

Re: [Elecraft] Re: K3 KRX3 - BNC or KAT3?

2008-08-14 Thread Tom W8JI
how did you bring them out? did you run then through some existing hole? I made a plate that bolts into the normal RX antenna and transceiver antenna interface area. ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a

Re: [Elecraft] More Balanced Current Measurements - Voltage Balun

2008-08-14 Thread Tom W8JI
The figure referred to is using the material as part of an RFI suppression choke where you want attenuation at RF frequencies. I think you'll find that when the Type 61 material is used as a transformer, it will have very low loss if designed properly. Even 73 materials can have low loss if

Re: [Elecraft] K3: Voice pitch adjustment on SSB

2008-08-15 Thread Tom W8JI
I didn't think is was LEGAL to transmit music, tones or even whistle for that matter. Tones are legal for specific purposes like adjustments. It's easy to adjust normal SSB to proper tuning by listening to the voice. Voices contain harmonically related frequencies that sound odd (out of

Re: [Elecraft] balanced tuner

2008-08-16 Thread Tom W8JI
I heard some one say that a balanced tuner is very expensive to build. I used some quarter inch copper tubing from the hardware store to build a four inch coil. This is the tubing for a ice maker. I then built a four inch coil and tapped it to a multi position switch from radio shack. I had

Re: [Elecraft] balanced tuner

2008-08-16 Thread Tom W8JI
How about a normal L-type network? Connect one side to the balanced line, and the other side via a current balun to the 50 coax. The tuner is 'RF-floating'. (You can run the coax through a toroid or use two seperate wires to make the current balun.) Arie, Respectfully that does not work at

Re: [Elecraft] balanced tuner

2008-08-16 Thread Tom W8JI
So, Tom, how would you comment upon a transistorised rig of 50 ohms impedance unbalanced output connected to an unbalanced pi configuration antenna coupling unit (variable C1 between input and ground, variable series L in the hot lead, and variable C2 between output and ground) followed by a

Re: [Elecraft] balanced tuner

2008-08-17 Thread Tom W8JI
Probably true of the 1:1 configuration, but not of the 1:4 configuration. If you analyze the latter in terms of chokes, you have a choke connected across the differential signal, so if the differential impedance is high, most of the current would bypass the antenna. Why would anyone ever

Re: [Elecraft] balanced tuner

2008-08-17 Thread Tom W8JI
Actually one might put them on the input, in the sense that one might have a balanced feeder at close to 200 ohms and a balanced tuner at the antenna end. That's probably the only case in which they would work well. The basic rule still applies. We can't move any balun to the input of an

Re: [Elecraft] K3 noise blanker

2008-08-17 Thread Tom W8JI
Having, in waiting for my K3, read all sorts of accolades for the NB and NR, I feel, now that I have the radio in front of me, somewhat deflated. The NB is, it seems to me, no better than many others I have used (eg TS-850) and the NR does not seem, to me at least, to be any better than that

Re: [Elecraft] balanced tuner

2008-08-18 Thread Tom W8JI
That's important! ICE says that they will work with impedances of 300-600 ohms. Although the characteristic impedance of a line may be within this range, the impedance *seen* at a particular point could be very high or low. Multiply line SWR by line impedance. Most ladder line is around

Re: [Elecraft] K3 in NAQP SSB

2008-08-18 Thread Tom W8JI
This is a particular problem with transceivers that have a single V- lead and only one pin for the V- connection (like the K3). If the negative lead connection is not absolutely perfect other ground paths (e.g. the shield on a microphone cable) through accessory equipment will carry a portion

Re: [Elecraft] K3 in NAQP SSB

2008-08-19 Thread Tom W8JI
The obvious solution is just to use the K3 +12VDC output connector for all accessories. It's rated for 0.5A which should be plenty for most devices. As a bonus it's controlled by the K3 ON/OFF switch. That by itself doesn't cure ground loops and it doesn't cure the negative lead damage

Re: [K3] RE: [Elecraft] How do you measure filter offset

2008-08-19 Thread Tom W8JI
It actually doesn't matter beyond about 30 dB down ina roofing filter...the DSP filters handle things beyond that. Two points are entirely sufficient to **center** the filter's 6 dB bandwidth, which was the question asked. I don't think -6dB bandwidth was the question, but rather

Re: [Elecraft] OT: Electric fences

2008-08-21 Thread Tom W8JI
Again, the noise isn't from the charger ... it's generated along the wire. Carrying an AM radio along the fence may be helpful and is useful in illustrating to the fence owner what you're talking about. He/she may already be aware of the noise and not know the source. (:-)) While it is

Re: [Elecraft] Fwd: SDR Transforms Amateur Radio

2008-08-23 Thread Tom W8JI
This seems to have been seriously mangled by a journalist. As written it is suggesting that we are at a sunspot maximum and that the effects of sunspots are detrimental to HF amateur radio. We are actually at a sunspot minimum and, whilst sunspots may increase unpredictability they also

Re: [Elecraft] KX-1 BC interference on 20m

2008-08-25 Thread Tom W8JI
Given a 100 KW transmitter, with 2nd harmonics 40 dB down from the fundamental (which would be considered reasonably good suppression) is still 10 watts at the 2nd harmonic, I'm not sure about Europe but the Amateur radio *minimum* standard at HF for 1500 watts is about 45dB down for any

Re: [Elecraft] Software Development Goals

2008-08-26 Thread Tom W8JI
I am consummately pleased with my K3. I am astounded with the raw performance and dazzled with the features. So am I. The K3 is the first radio I have ever bought without some silly engineering shortfall. The only things I see people complaining about are specialized personal use or

Re: [Elecraft] Buryflex all the way to K3?

2010-05-31 Thread Tom W8JI
One thought. If you're going to operate SO2R and run power, you should probably use the bigger coax for the jumper, because the more robust shield can help interstation crosstalk. I did that in my shack for that reason, and it made a difference. I'd be very surprised if that had

Re: [Elecraft] Buryflex all the way to K3?

2010-05-31 Thread Tom W8JI
I do have an HP 3590D spectrum analyzer sitting in the shack, and put a simple loop on it to look at 2nd harmonics from my Ten Tec 425 amp and 160M vertical. It was about -44 dBc when I started, and I got it down to the rated -50 dBc by doing nothing more than changing coax jumpers.

Re: [Elecraft] Buryflex all the way to K3?

2010-06-01 Thread Tom W8JI
Hi Jim, I gotta get back to work but.. More likely you changed the impedance presented to the tank circuit on the second harmonic. The coax I was changing was between the K3 and the amp. When we measure a change in a complex soup of interactions and fields formed by the interactions, we

Re: [Elecraft] K3 with Heil HC-5

2010-06-04 Thread Tom W8JI
Isn't there a high and low gain setting, besides just the numerical gain?? :-) - Original Message - From: Stewart stew...@baker.nildram.co.uk To: Jan Erik Holm sm2...@telia.com Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Sent: Friday, June 04, 2010 10:23 AM Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 with Heil HC-5

Re: [Elecraft] K2 ATU and 43-ft Vertical

2010-06-05 Thread Tom W8JI
Does anyone have any experience with trying to match one of these 43-ft verticals, that are being offered by several manufacturers, using the K2s internal ATU? Is it able to find a match on 80-meter CW? Are there any particular brands of 43-ft verticals that you like or don't like?

Re: [Elecraft] XV50 cooling

2010-06-06 Thread Tom W8JI
Yes it is the possible effect on the input L-C circuit that is my main concern. 73, Geoff GM4ESD I would think the major concern would be elevated noise or change in the first stage's semiconductor device parameters from the receiver's input device temperature increase, not from tuned

Re: [Elecraft] XV50 cooling

2010-06-06 Thread Tom W8JI
Would that not depend on whether or not the source impedance presented to the input device has been optimised for lowest noise figure or for optimum power transfer? If the former then the question arises how rapidly does the noise figure change with small deviations from an optimum

Re: [Elecraft] KDVR

2010-06-06 Thread Tom W8JI
Well I wouldn't say useless. I'm sure no recording is *exactly* like the original but I have often played back another station's transmission (eg to help them set up their audio to let them know how they sound over a long distance), and other people listening (eg in the same net)

Re: [Elecraft] K2 ATU and 43-ft Vertical

2010-06-06 Thread Tom W8JI
The base loading coil is nearly identical in design to the toroidal coil of AD5X, linked below. I do intend to find 160 80m tap locations for the antenna. I hope you have serious top loading. I have a video of a base loading coil throwing a two inch long arc when running 500 watts on

Re: [Elecraft] K2 Tuner and 43 ft. vertical

2010-06-06 Thread Tom W8JI
Elecraft. A lot of guys speak negatively about this antenna design and show all the reasons it shouldn't work. All I can say is it works for me. Hi Phil, Works for me is fine. No one can argue with that. That doesn't mean it has reasonable efficiency. If it had reasonable efficiency, it

Re: [Elecraft] K3 RS232 no data out

2010-06-09 Thread Tom W8JI
Pete, I take hits directly on my towers all the time, and I never disconnect the K3 or any other rig. Of course my closest tower is about 150 feet away, so this might not work if you get a hit just feet away where the EMP is huge, but a good system will significantly reduce chances of a

Re: [Elecraft] K3 FD multi band antenna

2010-06-11 Thread Tom W8JI
Don and all, The 88 foot dipole, and the 44 foot dipole, are examples of an antenna designed for pattern alone with no consideration of feedline losses or matching systems. http://www.w8ji.com/short_dipoles_and_problems.htm With an 88 foot antenna the 80 meter SWR on a 400 ohm line (most

Re: [Elecraft] SWR

2010-06-11 Thread Tom W8JI
With the 80 meter coil option on the BigIR, you could see higher SWRs on 15 through 6 meters in the normal 1/4 wave mode. SteppIR recommends using the 3/4 wave mode for those bands. This may help. .with everything but wave angle :-)

Re: [Elecraft] Intermod or mixing?

2010-06-13 Thread Tom W8JI
The low-band TV signals are all QRT now, so that shouldn't be an issue anymore. There is only one VHF high station in range for me. I think it is up around 200 MHz. - Original Message - From: ka9zap ka9...@wowway.com To: K3 list Elecraft@mailman.qth.net Sent: Sunday, June 13, 2010

Re: [Elecraft] [K3] Kite antennas and static protection

2010-06-14 Thread Tom W8JI
The most important thing in this is to always have a dc leak path to earth on the antenna side of any T network or anything else that might add a series capacitance. (Some lighting suppressors are a bad design with dc isolation by a series capacitor on the center conductor.) We never want

Re: [Elecraft] No K3 ALC indication

2010-06-15 Thread Tom W8JI
Stan, I had some weird stuff happen with my K3 on SSB when I accidentally offset the filter incorrectly. Almost like what you have, but perhaps not quite so bad. I was really puzzled why filter offset affected ALC so much. That's all I corrected and it cured my problem. 73 Tom -

Re: [Elecraft] K3 Low Pass Question

2010-06-18 Thread Tom W8JI
It begs the question what we should do with the 1000s of LP filters out there. Some are built very well, like my Drake, but I also have a couple made of bent tin. There was a QST article on them a few years ago showing different construction styles and quite intriguing how costs could be

Re: [Elecraft] K3 Low Pass Question

2010-06-18 Thread Tom W8JI
This topic greatly interests me, because I have never found saturation or non-linearity in typical cores an issue. This might be an opportunity to explore something new that I have never seen. - Original Message - From: David Cutter d.cut...@ntlworld.com To: Geoffrey

Re: [Elecraft] (no subject)

2010-06-19 Thread Tom W8JI
Hi Jim If you are interested in the details of AM you can read it here: http://www.w8ji.com/amplitude_modulation.htm Since the ratio of peak power to carrier is 4:1 in a symmetrically modulated AM signal, the carrier power must be 25 watts or less with a 100-watt PEP radio. I'm sure the K3

Re: [Elecraft] K3 PR6 preamp

2010-06-22 Thread Tom W8JI
What is the noise figure of the K3 on six meters? On SSB bandwidth I barely hear a noise increase when I switch from a dummy load to my antenna. 73 Tom __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft

Re: [Elecraft] Amp connection - K3 and ACOM 1000

2010-06-22 Thread Tom W8JI
The theory in that link is pretty far-fetched. The screen is an excellent shield for RF between the anode and grid. If the screen wasn't a nearly perfect RF shield, we would never be able to use the tetrode in a grid driven amp. It's silly to think the screen shield the control grid for months

Re: [Elecraft] Coax Loss Figures

2010-06-23 Thread Tom W8JI
Well heck if LMR400 is .7dB/100ft I'm not so sure that its worth mucking with finding adapters for it as if I end up having to put 2 adapters on each end to get it to something I can use there goes most of my advantage of stepping up from LMR400 to LMR600... The loss in connectors or

Re: [Elecraft] Antenna Separation for Diversity

2010-06-24 Thread Tom W8JI
Brett, No one can answer that question for you, because both antennas are unpredictable in nearfield performance. Also the layout of the antenna and what is around, under, and between the antennas is very important. With such a large soup of unknowns, plus there might be other transmitters on

Re: [Elecraft] Antenna Separation for Diversity

2010-06-24 Thread Tom W8JI
feedline radiation, and as such will be unpredictable in polarization tilt with direction and elevation. This all would be better on an antenna forum, so this is my last comment. :-) 73 Tom --- Original Message - From: Brett Howard br...@livecomputers.com To: 'Tom W8JI' w...@w8ji.com

[Elecraft] Clock Accuracy (the moral of the story)

2010-06-25 Thread Tom W8JI
Almost 30 years ago, when I designed the AL1200 amplifier, it included a rough relative voltmeter like most other amps had except I included a cheap peak voltage detector. I thought I'd calibrate the cheap relative voltmeter scale, making the scale show peak watts instead of zero through ten

Re: [Elecraft] Bad start to FD - smoked a K3!!!!

2010-06-26 Thread Tom W8JI
We had one guy get on 75 with a KW with another on 40. Guy on 40 didn't know. He got the RFI warning, the K3 locked up and he smelled smoke. Now his K3 has no RX at all. I thought there was a high power protection circuit? We have other rigs to use but any input as to what needs to be

Re: [Elecraft] Low headphone audio level

2010-06-27 Thread Tom W8JI
We sort of got sidetracked from the original posters remarks. It's about low headphone level on the K3. If the level were a bit higher there would be no need to plug the headphones into the speaker jack. Similarly each pair of headphones you grab seems to have a different level. I have 3

Re: [Elecraft] Power Poles...

2010-06-28 Thread Tom W8JI
- Original Message - From: Grant Youngman n...@tx.rr.com To: Elecraft Email elecraft@mailman.qth.net Sent: Monday, June 28, 2010 10:29 AM Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Power Poles... It would also be simple enough for the manufacturers to solve the polarity problem by using a bridge

Re: [Elecraft] Power Poles...

2010-06-28 Thread Tom W8JI
the darn thing to avoid disasters like plugging a 24v supply into a 12v radio? :-) Grant/NQ5T On Jun 28, 2010, at 10:38 AM, Tom W8JI wrote: - Original Message - From: Grant Youngman n...@tx.rr.com To: Elecraft Email elecraft@mailman.qth.net Sent: Monday, June 28, 2010 10:29 AM

Re: [Elecraft] my K3 F/D experience

2010-06-29 Thread Tom W8JI
Every operator cranked the K3 output to max (110W output) could not get them to leave it at 100. I don't know why hams are so uneducated about that. At least 110 watts is not as bad as what someone I know does with his contest FT1000MP's and other 100W radios. He runs them at 130 watts or

Re: [Elecraft] WJST and the K3

2010-07-03 Thread Tom W8JI
So the K3 has a fully floating ground on the line audio input, isolated from the chassis??? Is that correct? 73 Tom - Original Message - From: Edward R Cole kl...@acsalaska.net To: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net Sent: Saturday, July 03, 2010 4:08 AM Subject: [Elecraft] WJST and the K3

Re: [Elecraft] PSK PTT doesn't work with USB to serial converter

2010-07-04 Thread Tom W8JI
Heck a lot of the current quality DMM's will take this in stride... One of the tests we do when demoing meters (and I've seen it done commonly from reviewers) is to run a meter through the different feature settings while connected to the mains. Often we'll just dump the probes into the

Re: [Elecraft] Reduced-height bail

2010-07-05 Thread Tom W8JI
That's what I had to do Pete. The bail is far too tall for me also. After trying to whittle wood and bend metal, I finally cut some dense closed cell foam on my band saw and made a nice little riser for the front. 73 Tom Thanks! The current one only elevates the frot bottom edge of my K3 2

Re: [Elecraft] Reduced-height bail (cost)

2010-07-05 Thread Tom W8JI
The typical cost to take a parts order and ship a part at Ameritron, back in the 1980's, was about $20. That does not include the shipping fees, just the overhead to take an order, pick the part, pack the part, and do the shipping labels, handle the invoice or paperwork. Shipping small low

Re: [Elecraft] Auto Bandpass Filter

2010-07-05 Thread Tom W8JI
Ameritron makes an RCS12 control head that I use here. I have about a dozen of them in use. It not only is programmable as to the allowed output ports for a radio's band data input, it also works as an antenna switch controller and will lock out the wrong antennas on the wrong bands. It

Re: [Elecraft] Provocative Kenwood Advert - TS590 vs K3

2010-07-06 Thread Tom W8JI
There are three types of HF and 160 meter fading I can identify. 1.) Normal ionospheric fading 2.) Fading caused when wide-spaced antennas are directly combined, making a very sharp pattern. The signal, as arrival angles change, moves in and out of pattern nulls. 3.) Multipath. Number 2 is

Re: [Elecraft] K3 Audio routing question

2010-07-06 Thread Tom W8JI
Hi David, The Beverage and the vertical are both vertically polarized. A single vertical is a very broad pattern with much less directivity than a Beverage. Since for receiving signal-to-noise is closely tied to directive pattern and not gain or antenna type, the vertical will have

Re: [Elecraft] K3 Receive multiple directions

2010-07-07 Thread Tom W8JI
Hi Craig, You said: I recently installed the sub RX and plan to use it for CW contesting. When running, I like to use Split with the xmit freq on VFO B. I then tune the calling stations, if required, using VFO A. I normally use a fairly wide BW (300-500 Hz) to avoid much tuning on

Re: [Elecraft] Regarding the K3 and high QRN levels

2010-07-08 Thread Tom W8JI
I'll probably get lynched for saying this, but for my ears I've never found a DSP system that is as good as a pure analog system when there is rough noise. The K3 is much better than my Orion I, but I strongly prefer full analog IF's with rough noise or when a signal is right at noise floor and

Re: [Elecraft] Short QSO's (was Re: 6M CW)

2010-07-09 Thread Tom W8JI
The Johnson T-R switch came in two iterations, as I recall. The first one suffered from suck-out, as did the second, but less so. Signal suckout occurs because the tank circuit in the transmitter presents a low impedance when the tube end of the tank is misterminated during key-up (resting

Re: [Elecraft] D104 mic

2010-07-09 Thread Tom W8JI
It will sound great if you add a J310 or similar JFET source follower. Very flat clean response. A source follower is very simple. Use a low voltage .01 uF or .05 uF disc cap to the gate. Use a 100k to 1 meg ohm resistor from gate to ground. Put a 560 ohm source resistor to ground, and couple

Re: [Elecraft] D104 mic

2010-07-10 Thread Tom W8JI
as a voltage source. :-) - Original Message - From: Jim Brown j...@audiosystemsgroup.com To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Sent: Saturday, July 10, 2010 12:20 AM Subject: Re: [Elecraft] D104 mic On Fri, 9 Jul 2010 20:47:36 -0400, Tom W8JI wrote: It will sound great if you add a J310

Re: [Elecraft] Ameco PT-3

2010-07-10 Thread Tom W8JI
I want to report the stunning success the PT-3 has had on the upper bands. Especially 15 and 10 meters. I have long held the suspicion that the K2 is deficient in sensitivity on these bands and the PT-3 confirms it in spades. Stations that are indecipherable now stand out clearly in arm

Re: [Elecraft] D104 mic

2010-07-11 Thread Tom W8JI
Definitely iconic - the D-104 was the overwhelmingly first choice of the out-of-band-and-overpower CBers for use with their modified Yaesu FT-101E transceivers in the 1970s. Some of those folks eventually saw the light, got their ham licenses, abandoned CB, and became good hams. My

Re: [Elecraft] continuous relay click in RX ANT IN

2010-07-11 Thread Tom W8JI
have my beverage connected to the RX ANT IN and I can transmit into my TX antenna while RX ANT is turned on without problem. I tried to connect my 40 mts yagi to RX ANT IN because it was listening very good, but I hear a continuous clicking, like a relay. What´s that? Why with one antenna is OK

Re: [Elecraft] K2 10W PA problem

2010-07-12 Thread Tom W8JI
This is almost certainly thermal drift from heat. seem OK, the power from driver and the power output remain stable during key-down, but the current increases... What could be the issue? Before spending more time on troubleshooting, has someone had and solved the same problem? Poor

Re: [Elecraft] D104 mic

2010-07-12 Thread Tom W8JI
Does anyone have experience with the amplified D104? Dick, KA1SA, #911 I cut those boards out of mine, except for the PTT switch mounting. I prefer something more simple and easily controlled. __ Elecraft mailing list Home:

Re: [Elecraft] continuous relay click in RX ANT IN

2010-07-12 Thread Tom W8JI
I made an even more cost-effective one: I put a couple of diodes in parallel (anode to cathode) across the connector in the old coax switch I use for receiving antennas. I wrote FOR RECEIVE ONLY! on the switch in big letters. I can't do that here Vic because on most of my antennas the net

Re: [Elecraft] Ameco PT-3

2010-07-12 Thread Tom W8JI
When the antenna is connected and disconnected the noise floor moves just barely. You can tell, but it requires a critical ear. That is too little. That is about how my K3 behaves on six meters on SSB bandwidth! On the narrowest bandwidth you use, you should hear a very well defined noise

Re: [Elecraft] continuous relay click in RX ANT IN

2010-07-12 Thread Tom W8JI
I was using a sloper for 160 mts from a 118ft tower and the 40-2CD was on top of this tower. So I couldn´t connect the 40-2CD in the RX ANT IN. So I switch the knob in my sixpack to listen in the 40 and then switch again to TX on the 160 antenna, hope this will not cause a problem in the rig?

Re: [Elecraft] continuous relay click in RX ANT IN

2010-07-12 Thread Tom W8JI
Hi Vic, So the voltage produced by the receiving antennas is relatively low. I agree that it wouldn't work with a resonant antenna. On my Beverage antennas (which are low gain) the accumulation of AM BC signals, SW BC signals, and so on at night is enough to light the filament of a 12 volt

Re: [Elecraft] continuous relay click in RX ANT IN

2010-07-13 Thread Tom W8JI
Seems is similar to this made from ICE, at least will add extra protection to the K3, what do you think? Or it will decrease the RX signals I can receive in the K3? As far as I know that unit uses reed relays, and should have no detectable loss. I think there might be two models of that,

Re: [Elecraft] Let's Try This Again -- was [K3] ... A 750 Hz, 8-Pole ... Filter?

2010-07-14 Thread Tom W8JI
I would have no use for a 750 Hz filter. 99% of the time I use SSB bandwidth on emty CW bands, or less than 500 Hz BW. I have my filters set so the 500 Hz roofing kicks in at 600 Hz BW, my 250 roofing in at 350. This is in an attempt to soften the big 50 Hz selectivity steps when using narrow

Re: [Elecraft] eHam.net forum message

2010-07-14 Thread Tom W8JI
FWIW I have a Perseus and two other receivers which both use H-Mode mixers, one of which uses a version of PA3AKE's H-Mode front end. With the Perseus used as a stand alone receiver, I have not experienced this noise problem in the presence of mild or quite strong static or manmade pulse

Re: [Elecraft] K3 S Meter behavior

2010-07-15 Thread Tom W8JI
Personally, I would prefer that the s-meter not operate in this way in ABS mode. RF Gain should have no effect on the s-meter action when in ABS mode, just as ATT and PRE do not. It would probably screw up (highly technical term) how the system works, or require a separate receiver just for

Re: [Elecraft] K3 S Meter behavior

2010-07-15 Thread Tom W8JI
Regardless of the fact that in 1934 (as was indicated to me in off reflector email) we used to not use the meter for the S report, at some time (1970's when proper calibration and standardizations' came about) we were able to shift that OLD antiquated 1934's definition over to a

Re: [Elecraft] K3 on Order

2010-07-16 Thread Tom W8JI
My concern for any Switching supply is the RFI noice that the radio will pick up from the power supply. Looking at the SEC 1235m, I was reading that it has a build in RFI filter. Plus I like the AD5X mod to slow down the fan. And the Alinco DM-340 MVT has a knob to change the freq. of

Re: [Elecraft] 250 Hz and 400 Hz Filter Measurements

2010-07-18 Thread Tom W8JI
These measurements are QUITE valid, and represent the response of the radio from antenna input to audio output. The wide and narrow measurements on the same page are the same data, plotted to different scale -- the narrow plots to show filter bandwidth, the wide plots to show behavior

Re: [Elecraft] 250 Hz and 400 Hz Filter Measurements

2010-07-18 Thread Tom W8JI
Yes, think about this using common sense. Assuming typical band noise might typically be -120 to -130 dBm, and the internal noise floor of the radio is -137 dBm, you cannot expect to measure 60-70 dB down from such a low level noise source without running into internal noise floor

Re: [Elecraft] K3: Added protection for RS-232 port

2010-07-18 Thread Tom W8JI
I've been thinking about how one might go about adding some protection for the apparently fragile (and expensive) RS-232 port on the K3. It might be possible, if the components were small enough, to add them on the KIO3 I/O daughterboard, or perhaps on a little external board mounted at the

Re: [Elecraft] OT: Re: Some Interesting WRTC Statistics

2010-07-19 Thread Tom W8JI
Can someone give me a short answer as to why Win-Test was the overwhelmingly popular logger, especially versus N1MM? Probably because it emulates CT (DOS) which most contesters are very familiar and comfortable with. Exactly. That's why people like it, and it networks easy. Unfortunately it

Re: [Elecraft] K3: Added protection for RS-232 port

2010-07-19 Thread Tom W8JI
This is absolutely the single most important thing to do In addition, bringing all lines into the station (including AC mains power, telco, LAN as well as antennas, rotor cables and control lines) through a single point grounding panel which has protective devices installed on each and

Re: [Elecraft] K3: Added protection for RS-232 port (summary)

2010-07-19 Thread Tom W8JI
Consensus seems to be that grounding, particularly making sure that all chassis are bonded together with the station entry panel and the powerline ground, is the best protection. I think this likely is where I went wrong, because I had just completed the radio and had not yet grounded it to

Re: [Elecraft] K3: Added protection for RS-232 port

2010-07-20 Thread Tom W8JI
On 7/20/2010 12:01 AM, Don Wilhelm wrote: ...so if you wish to protect your K3 correctly (along with all the other equipment in your hamshack), install some good lightning protection - single ground point entry point for ALL lines coming into the hamshack - NO exceptions - ethernet, telco,

Re: [Elecraft] K3: Added protection for RS-232 port (summary)

2010-07-20 Thread Tom W8JI
I rarely disagree with Jim on audio issues, but I am going to disagree with this: On Tue, 20 Jul 2010 09:38:23 -0800, Edward R Cole wrote: The only dc-isolated wiring in my shack is the soundcard audio lines from radios to computers. Jim replied: Why are these isolated? They should NOT be. See

Re: [Elecraft] K3: Added protection for RS-232 port (summary)

2010-07-20 Thread Tom W8JI
IN addition to bonding my radio ground rod to the electrical ground (on the other side of the house), I will have my radio ground going to my cable entrance plate. From there I have two tables and my racks arranged in an U configuration with radio table facing the racks six feet across the

Re: [Elecraft] K3: Recording from LIN OUT

2010-07-21 Thread Tom W8JI
In the traditional sense, LINE was a broadcast and recording industry standard for FIXED signal at 0dBm, and 600 ohms. It was used to interconnect various pieces equipment and was supposed to relieve the engineers of the need to determine what the signal level was and what the source and

Re: [Elecraft] K3 battery power

2010-07-21 Thread Tom W8JI
Interesting. I run a K3 off a couple of pseudo deep cycle 12 volt batteries with an Iota smart charger hooked up. I run mostly digital so IMD is important to me. The Iota runs between 13.1 and 13.6 volts by my K3's meter. Would the difference between that and 14 volts make a meaningful

Re: [Elecraft] OT: SO-239 Connector Selection

2010-07-22 Thread Tom W8JI
In some connector applications ... particularly power dividers and other applications that are impedance- conscious ... SO-239 / PL-259 connectors are not suitable. This is NEVER the case at 30 MHz and lower, so long as connection to the connector are properly done. The total impedance bump

Re: [Elecraft] SO-239 Connector Selection

2010-07-22 Thread Tom W8JI
Makes sense on the teflon insulator... I assume that that only makes the difference when doing higher power? It mostly makes a difference in soldering. The measured voltage breakdown of a standard Amphenol SO-239 is well over 5000 volts peak. The arc point is normally the air gap between the

Re: [Elecraft] So-called UHF connectors...

2010-07-22 Thread Tom W8JI
insidebut I do think that the issue with standard mud type UHFs is with the durability of the dielectric, not with the impedance bump, at HF and even low VHF frequencies. That's an accurate statement John. The largest bump I've even measured with a SO239 PL259 pair was about 1.05:1 at

Re: [Elecraft] Balun Questions

2010-07-23 Thread Tom W8JI
So I've looked at a few sites describing how to make a 4:1 balun... One such solution is to take 2 100 ohm 1:1 baluns and connect them in parallel on the input side and in series on the output side... The 100 ohms is the differential impedance, or transmission line impedance, NOT the choking

Re: [Elecraft] K3 Feature Request - Stopping CW Memory Playback with PTT

2010-07-23 Thread Tom W8JI
While this is true I still feel that any KEY_IN source be it PTT or VOX or the paddles it should interrupt the memory keyer. Makes total sense to me. Any call for another transmission source, VOX, PTT, external key line input, or paddles, should halt automatic transmissions.

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