Well, as I stated, I bought the keyboard and it arrived. I find it perplexing
that I cannot use the F-keys for macros but I *can* use CTRL, F-key. I need to
do some more reading. Works okay for what it is and why I bought it - macros
for the PX3. This brings me to RTFM:
It really helps. I
Pretty funny, Wayne.
I have long been one of the unofficial technical advisors on
another reflector and over the years the same questions come up over
and over. Many give opinions how to improve the system by use of FAQ
pages or mini-tutorials, etc., etc. But in the final analysis there
is
wayne burdick wrote:
Should we offer a small discount on complex products if a potential
customer reads the entire manual and passes a test first?
Wayne
N6KR
There's plenty of things you can do with the K3 that are out of the
ordinary, and you can stumble into them by accident.
I
Leigh,
If you consider all the combinations and permutations to your
suggestion, I would believe it is an insurmountable task. And even if
it were attempted, someone would find a different combination that would
bring strange happenings.
There is no substitute for the user being familiar
My favorite review of a manual on the end of the spectrum opposite from
Elecraft manuals:
The technical manual is a successful impediment to understanding.
Rich
NU6T
On 6/25/2011 8:16 AM, Tony Estep wrote:
On Sat, Jun 25, 2011 at 9:34 AM, Dave KK7SSkk...@frontier.com wrote:
A loong
A loong time ago (30 years!) I was instructed to write a manual for
management, with an index and glossary, for a production control system that we
had recently installed.
I was of the personal opinion that this would never be fully read if at all!!
(make work item!)
So in the Glossary I
On Sat, Jun 25, 2011 at 9:34 AM, Dave KK7SS kk...@frontier.com wrote:
A loong time ago (30 years!) I was instructed to write a manual...I was of
the personal opinion that this would never be fully read if at all...
Ah, I was once a manual writer. I ran out of money while going to college
and
Writing good manuals is hard ... very hard. Long ago, I saw a video and
read a report of a usability test for a computer program running on an
IBM XT [I said, long ago.] There was the XT and a case with a few 5
1/4 floppies [I already said, long ago] on the desk in a small room.
The subject
And note that when Don is asked a question, he never retreats behind RTFM.
Several months ago after my K2 had sat idle for a couple of years, I ran
into exactly the same thing on 30 meters and Don bailed me out too.
Ron AC7AC
-Original Message-
12 years of activities with the K2 has
But if I feel it is important, or more involved than the immediate
question seems, I will often give a pointer to a manual page for further
information - as well as answering the immediate question.
73,
Don W3FPR
On 6/24/2011 2:06 PM, Ron D'Eau Claire wrote:
And note that when Don is asked
I got the 160m option for Christmas, installed it and checked out the Rx
antenna, then promptly forgot about it since I've been using the K3. Only
after installing the K2 in the mobile, having a problem and receiving
Don's answer did I even remember that I now had a rx antenna!Which probably
says
However much we try to be kind and accepting of wherever a poster may
be, RTFM remains pertinent, not reading or not carefully reading the
manual the number one cause of problems in assembly, understanding,
operating.
At SAS institute, the world's largest private software company, with
paid
Should we offer a small discount on complex products if a potential
customer reads the entire manual and passes a test first?
Wayne
N6KR
On Jun 24, 2011, at 1:23 PM, Guy Olinger K2AV wrote:
However much we try to be kind and accepting of wherever a poster may
be, RTFM remains pertinent
What a question - yes!
73 de M0XDF, K3 #174, P3 #108, KX3 #???
On 24 Jun 2011, at 21:28, Wayne Burdick wrote:
Should we offer a small discount on complex products if a potential
customer reads the entire manual and passes a test first?
A 500 question essay exam format should prove adequate. Or maybe an oral
examination equivalent to a thesis defense. No longer than five hours in
duration please.
73,
Kevin. KD5ONS
On Fri, 24 Jun 2011 13:28:27 -0700, Wayne Burdick n...@elecraft.com
wrote:
Should we offer a
Wayne,
Please make this retroactive to June 2008. I went through the K3
assembly and operator's manuals at least a dozen times while waiting for
the K3 to ship. I'm sure others did the same.
This rehearsal, mental assembly, helped lots when the kit showed.
Also helpful was following the
After being on the reflector for a few weeks and reading all the posts on the
K3, I thought that maybe the K3 would be too much radio, for me! So, I have a
K2 kit here, I have started to build, amongst buying a secondhand K2 and KX1.
As far as me getting a K3? My best prior investment may be to
a test first?
Wayne
N6KR
On Jun 24, 2011, at 1:23 PM, Guy Olinger K2AV wrote:
However much we try to be kind and accepting of wherever a poster may
be, RTFM remains pertinent...
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Jack,
My normal practice with any radio is to read and understand the menu
selections first, That gives me the best idea about how the radio can
be configured. The default settings are OK for general use, but most
users like to customize it a little bit. I highly recommend that
practice,
Then consider those of us who read manuals, configure accordingly and then
forget Memories are like fruit, some great for awhile, some rotten in no
time. I like to do a PDF search from the PC before jumping into asking
questions because I can't figure it out. Don usually has an excellent
Only 25%?
Eric has offered to triple my salary several times, and I have declined
on the grounds that it was excessive in these troubled monetary times. :-)
73,
Don W3FPR
On 6/24/2011 5:47 PM, Bill K9YEQ wrote:
Then consider those of us who read manuals, configure accordingly and then
On Fri, Jun 24, 2011 at 4:04 PM, Guy Olinger K2AV olin...@bellsouth.netwrote:
...You'll find that the readers are still the readers and
the don't readers are still the don't readers...
On this topic, thus spake Dr. Johnson: ...even supposing knowledge to be
easily attainable, more people
, at 1:23 PM, Guy Olinger K2AV wrote:
However much we try to be kind and accepting of wherever a poster
may
be, RTFM remains pertinent...
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It's the reason someone put up lmgtfy.com
Fred K6DGW
On 6/24/2011 10:40 PM, Tony Estep wrote:
On Fri, Jun 24, 2011 at 4:04 PM, Guy Olinger K2AVolin...@bellsouth.netwrote:
...You'll find that the readers are still the readers and
the don't readers are still the don't readers...
On this
Jack,
For what it's worth to you, the K3 [out of the box or after calibration
if built] will run great with the default settings and you can start
making Q's as soon as you scanned the manual and understand the
important front panel controls. Essentially everything in the menus is
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[mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of FredJensen
Sent: Friday, June 24, 2011 7:10 PM
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] No RTFM
Jack,
For what it's worth to you, the K3 [out of the box or after calibration
if built] will run great with the default settings
...
Ron AC7AC
-Original Message-
From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net
[mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of FredJensen
Sent: Friday, June 24, 2011 7:10 PM
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] No RTFM
Jack,
For what it's worth to you, the K3 [out
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