Re: [Elecraft] Re: Magnetic fields and phase noise

2005-03-22 Thread Stuart Rohre
Bob, Putting a large speaker magnet near any tuned circuit creates a large magnetic field that can affect the tuned circuit. The effect of your large speaker is common upon many radios. This even affects toroid circuits such as those in the K2. -Stuart K5KVH

Re: [Elecraft] Re: magnetic fields and phase noise?

2005-03-20 Thread Earl W Cunningham
Bruce, NM5B wrote: I'm beginning to wonder if the noise source is conducted via the power lines vs. radiated. == Others suggested that it stopped because the K2/100 was in a different room on an AC circuit other than the amp. Well, the amp is on a dedicated 220 VAC line and the K2/100 is

Re: [Elecraft] Re: magnetic fields and phase noise?

2005-03-20 Thread David A.Belsley
That dedicated 220 VAC line is likely not all that dedicated, unless you have absolutely separate 220 VAC service coming into your shack. Under typical home circumstances, the 110 VAC is simply on one side of the 220 VAC line. So your 110 shares a buss with the 220 VAC. LIkewise, two

Re: [Elecraft] Re: magnetic fields and phase noise?

2005-03-20 Thread Margaret Leber
Earl W Cunningham wrote: It has been suggested that mu-metal shielding might alleviate the problem. I'm considering making mu-metal bottom and side covers for my K2. If I were having that problem, I'd be thinking about shielding the *source*...because it would likely affect other equipment

Re: [Elecraft] Re: magnetic fields and phase noise?

2005-03-20 Thread Earl W Cunningham
Maggie, K3XS wrote: If I were having that problem, I'd be thinking about shielding the *source*...because it would likely affect other equipment in my shack. == Yes, indeed, the source is the HV xfmr in the amp. No other equipment in the shack is affected by it, including any other

Re: [Elecraft] Re: magnetic fields and phase noise?

2005-03-20 Thread Stephen W. Kercel
I've seen several mentions of mu metal in this discussion. I offer a few thoughts for what they are worth. Some years back, when I worked in the Electromagnetic Compatibility Group at Oak Ridge National Laboratory, we occasionally used mu-metal. The idea is that it directly suppresses

Re: [Elecraft] Re: magnetic fields and phase noise?

2005-03-20 Thread S55M
: magnetic fields and phase noise? I've seen several mentions of mu metal in this discussion. I offer a few thoughts for what they are worth. Some years back, when I worked in the Electromagnetic Compatibility Group at Oak Ridge National Laboratory, we occasionally used mu-metal. The idea

Re: [Elecraft] Re: magnetic fields and phase noise?

2005-03-20 Thread Leigh L Klotz, Jr.
Message - From: Stephen W. Kercel [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Re: magnetic fields and phase noise? Mu metal is expensive, difficult to find, hard to work with if you can find it, and if subjected to mechanical shock, it can lose its mu-ness

RE: [Elecraft] Re: magnetic fields and phase noise?

2005-03-19 Thread N2TK, Tony
, 2005 9:28 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: [Elecraft] Re: magnetic fields and phase noise? Fraser, G4BJM wrote: Interesting Earl, the non exhaustive tests I've done indicate that it is not due to magnetic fields. -- When I first told Elecraft

Re: [Elecraft] Re: magnetic fields and phase noise?

2005-03-19 Thread Margaret Leber
N2TK, Tony wrote: My K2/100 sits on top of my TS950SDX. If I go above about 30-50W with the K2 on 80 and 160M I have to reset my router. Was using a Belkin router. Now using a Netgear wireless router. Both cutout. This doesn't happen all the time - maybe 50% of the time. Been wrapping ferrite

Re: [Elecraft] Re: magnetic fields and phase noise?

2005-03-19 Thread Bruce Bowman
Subject: [Elecraft] Re: magnetic fields and phase noise? Fraser, G4BJM wrote: Interesting Earl, the non exhaustive tests I've done indicate that it is not due to magnetic fields. -- When I first told Elecraft about this problem, they sent me the new shield for the KPA100, which didn't

Re: [Elecraft] Re: magnetic fields and phase noise?

2005-03-19 Thread Earl W Cunningham
Bruce, NM5B wrote: Here's a wild guess to throw in the mix. Since you have tried shielding and separation to eliminate or minimize the presumed radiated noise path, I'm beginning to wonder if the noise source is conducted via the power lines vs. radiated. == I have never tried shielding.

Re: [Elecraft] Re: magnetic fields and phase noise?

2005-03-19 Thread Vic Rosenthal
N2TK, Tony wrote: My K2/100 sits on top of my TS950SDX. If I go above about 30-50W with the K2 on 80 and 160M I have to reset my router. Was using a Belkin router. Now using a Netgear wireless router. Both cutout. Don't get me started about routers and 160/80 meters! I have an inverted L