Re: [Elecraft] SMT kits and Elecraft

2004-08-13 Thread Stuart Rohre
Pete, I have tried cyanoacrylate and when it heated it let go. -Stuart K5KVH ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.):

Re: [Elecraft] SMT kits and Elecraft

2004-08-13 Thread Tom Hammond
It can liberate cyanide (or some derivative) when it is heated as well. 73, Tom N0SS At 06:03 PM 8/13/04, Stuart Rohre wrote: Pete, I have tried cyanoacrylate and when it heated it let go. ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to:

Re: [Elecraft] SMT kits and Elecraft

2004-08-11 Thread Mario Lorenz
Am 10. Aug 2004, um 14:04:49 schrieb wayne burdick: Regarding SMT (surface-mount technology): We will obviously have to use many more SMDs (surface-mount devices) in future kits. But they will all be pre-installed, with rare exceptions. Wayne, would you then please consider selling the bare

Re: [Elecraft] SMT kits and Elecraft

2004-08-11 Thread Bob Baxter
- Original Message - From: David Toepfer [EMAIL PROTECTED] I recall reading somehere a while ago that absolutely all precision instruments/tools are fabricated in metric and the only thing that is english is the labels and the specs which are all converted to english. Have you

Re: [Elecraft] SMT kits and Elecraft

2004-08-11 Thread David Toepfer
Everyone seems to be missing my point, which is, all of these things are designed and fabricated in metric specs. The machine tools are made in factories to metric specs, but when the but the dials on them or the labels on them they are converted to english so we sad american masses who just

Re: [Elecraft] SMT kits and Elecraft

2004-08-11 Thread Stuart Rohre
Yes, I think we can do simple kits with 1206 parts with home hand tools and possibly a hold down fixture home made. In fact, that would be a great kit, a set of SMT sized tools: Needle Nose pliers, light spring tweezer, hold down device that would sit on desk and exert weight on a 1206

RE: [Elecraft] SMT kits and Elecraft

2004-08-11 Thread Steve
I would *love* to see an SMT version of the KX1. Already, in a number of places in the current kit, it would seem like an SMT bypass cap would fit better than the leaded version! And probably no more difficult to fit/solder in place. How 'bout an SMT Option on some kits? 73, Steve aa8af

Re: [Elecraft] SMT kits and Elecraft

2004-08-11 Thread Stuart Rohre
For manual SMT parts, 1206 is a workable size: 0.12 in. by 0.06 in. Stuart K5KVH ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.):

RE: [Elecraft] SMT kits and Elecraft

2004-08-11 Thread Ron D'Eau Claire
I dunno Stuart. I think of sneezing and ending up with the parts for my new all-band Elecraft K-92 scattered all over the shop floor. Besides, the knobs on my K2 are WAY too small already. I'm reminded of the segment in Hitchhikers Guide to the Galaxy in which the alien invasion of Earth

Re: [Elecraft] SMT kits and Elecraft

2004-08-11 Thread Peter Burbank
At 04:20 PM 8/11/2004, Stuart Rohre wrote: Yes, I think we can do simple kits with 1206 parts with home hand tools and possibly a hold down fixture home made. In fact, that would be a great kit, a set of SMT sized tools: Needle Nose pliers, light spring tweezer, hold down device that would

Re: [Elecraft] SMT kits and Elecraft

2004-08-11 Thread Stuart Rohre
Peter, There are water clean fluxes that might answer your concern. I was thinking of ones that dissipate with soldering heat, just a dot on land of the component that was to be the down side. Stuart K5KVH ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to:

[Elecraft] SMT kits and Elecraft

2004-08-10 Thread wayne burdick
Regarding SMT (surface-mount technology): We will obviously have to use many more SMDs (surface-mount devices) in future kits. But they will all be pre-installed, with rare exceptions. While it is possible to install and remove SMDs by hand, it can require a lot of practice, patience, steady

Re: [Elecraft] SMT kits and Elecraft

2004-08-10 Thread Deni
wayne burdick wrote: Regarding SMT (surface-mount technology): We will obviously have to use many more SMDs (surface-mount devices) in future kits. But they will all be pre-installed, with rare exceptions. While it is possible to install and remove SMDs by hand, it can require a lot of

RE: [Elecraft] SMT kits and Elecraft

2004-08-10 Thread Ron D'Eau Claire
Wayne wrote: ...it can require a lot of practice, patience, steady nerves, unimpaired vision, and specialized tools. --- Good points, especially when it comes to identifying parts. My experience has been mostly in fixing something. I replace one or two SMDs and I'm done. But reading the

RE: [Elecraft] SMT kits and Elecraft

2004-08-10 Thread John A. Ross [RSDTV]
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ron D'Eau Claire Sent: Tuesday, August 10, 2004 11:34 PM To: 'Elecraft Mail list' Subject: RE: [Elecraft] SMT kits and Elecraft Wayne wrote: ...it can require a lot of practice, patience, steady

RE: [Elecraft] SMT kits and Elecraft

2004-08-10 Thread Ron D'Eau Claire
Ouch! The stuff that I've see so far has numbers - but really, really, REALLY small in many cases. Ron AC7AC -Original Message- Ron You usually do not get identification marks on chip capacitors, melf/SOD80 diodes or SOT23 parts (transistors etc) This is what I see as the biggest

RE: [Elecraft] SMT kits and Elecraft

2004-08-10 Thread John A. Ross [RSDTV]
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ron D'Eau Claire Sent: Wednesday, August 11, 2004 1:25 AM To: 'Elecraft Mail list' Subject: RE: [Elecraft] SMT kits and Elecraft Ouch! The stuff that I've see so far has numbers - but really

Re: [Elecraft] SMT kits and Elecraft

2004-08-10 Thread Bob Nielsen
On Tue, Aug 10, 2004 at 07:15:01PM -0700, Ron D'Eau Claire wrote: Nope. Those are smaller than anything I've used! Yeah, I'm aware that many (most?) of the numbers I've seen have nothing to do with any parts I.D. conventions that I know! As a technical writer I work in metric all the