Re: [Elecraft] paddle key training

2011-03-28 Thread Karl Marderian
C Cd Sent from my iPhone On Mar 25, 2011, at 4:52 PM, Gary Gregory garyvk...@gmail.com wrote: *Ken..the FW will reverse it too.* * * *Gary * On 26 March 2011 09:49, Ken - K0PP kengk...@gmail.com wrote: Thumb on right paddle makes dits. Have a left-handed guest op? Suggest turning

Re: [Elecraft] paddle key training

2011-03-27 Thread Paul Huff
Perhaps a little off topic for the Elecraft list, but an interesting thread. I am so dominantly right handed that even thinking about doing something with my left hand feels awkward in my mind. But a couple of years ago I wanted to learn how to use a bug. I had heard from others that

Re: [Elecraft] paddle key training

2011-03-27 Thread Jessie Oberreuter
I tought myself to eat left-handed so I could write with my right at the same time. A Chinese friend and I once went out for a writing session over Vietnamese soup. When I picked up my pen in the right, and my chopsticks in the left and proceeded to eat and write at the same time, she

Re: [Elecraft] paddle key training

2011-03-27 Thread george fritkin
My computer does wonderful CW. George, W6GF  --- On Sun, 3/27/11, Jessie Oberreuter joberreu-elecr...@moselle.com wrote: From: Jessie Oberreuter joberreu-elecr...@moselle.com Subject: Re: [Elecraft] paddle key training To: Kate Hutton katehut...@gmail.com Cc:  Date: Sunday, March 27, 2011, 10

Re: [Elecraft] paddle key training

2011-03-27 Thread Fred Jensen
RE Learning new ways to send: The primary problem with sending perfect or near-perfect Morse with either hand and/or paddle configuration, even with the latest keyers, is the fact that we all send the dits and dahs, and we always have, when, strangely, they don't really matter. It's the

Re: [Elecraft] paddle key training

2011-03-26 Thread Ian White GM3SEK
Jack West wrote: I can send using paddles right or left handed. [...] I am able to QSO CW by alternating letters back and forth using both hands. Occassionally I may send two or three letters from the same paddle but not often. I dont have tothink about it...it comes naturally. I call my

Re: [Elecraft] paddle key training

2011-03-26 Thread Ian White GM3SEK
Fred Jensen wrote: The message: Do what works for you, there is no 'right' answer. And also: Don't ask a talented person - ask someone who had to work at it. -- 73 from Ian GM3SEK http://www.ifwtech.co.uk/g3sek __ Elecraft mailing

Re: [Elecraft] paddle key training

2011-03-26 Thread Charles R Tropp
Are you proficient with a straight key? You need to get your timing perfect before you progress to a paddle. You may not like a squeeze paddle. See for e.g. /Iambic Keying - Debunking the Myth/ by Marshall G Emm, N1FN (Freely available at http://www.mtechnologies.com/. For lots of other

Re: [Elecraft] paddle key training

2011-03-26 Thread Pete Smith
But I learned to send electronic key CW some 52 years ago using a borrowed paddle and vacuum tube keyer. I was a young kid then and hesitated to change anything, so I wound up sending with what, for me, is a backward paddle (I am left-handed). Never changed, and can't now, but I've always

Re: [Elecraft] paddle key training

2011-03-26 Thread Wes Stewart
in January, I have no interest in going anywhere anymore.  If that ever changes, I'll look you up. 73, Wes --- On Fri, 3/25/11, WILLIS COOKE wrco...@yahoo.com wrote: From: WILLIS COOKE wrco...@yahoo.com Subject: Re: [Elecraft] paddle key training To: Wes Stewart n...@yahoo.com, Ken - K0PP kengk

Re: [Elecraft] paddle key training

2011-03-26 Thread Ron D'Eau Claire
I thought practicing timing was important when progressing from a straight key to a bug, but to use a keyer one only has to have timing good enough not to confuse the keyer logic. The keyer does all the critical work of inserting the proper spaces between code elements including, for most

Re: [Elecraft] paddle key training

2011-03-26 Thread Kate Hutton
I'm a rightie with my dits on the left. I also don't head copy very well. The first few times I had the opportunity to be NCS on the slow-speed net, I could not figure out how to write* everything *down, keep the traffic list, etc. also put the pen down to send then pick it back up again, etc.

Re: [Elecraft] paddle key training

2011-03-26 Thread WILLIS COOKE
was that he was in QSO with Favio.  Willis 'Cookie' Cooke K5EWJ From: Kate Hutton katehut...@gmail.com To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Sent: Sat, March 26, 2011 12:37:47 PM Subject: Re: [Elecraft] paddle key training I'm a rightie with my dits on the left. I also

Re: [Elecraft] paddle key training

2011-03-26 Thread Barry
I use the traditional method of dits with the thumb of my right hand. Back in the paper logging days, I learned to send with my left hand, reversing the two connections, so dits were still with my (left) thumb. That way I could write with my right hand at the same time as sending my left hand -

Re: [Elecraft] Paddle key training

2011-03-26 Thread Ralph Parker
Do what works for you, there is no 'right' answer I strongly disagree. The 'right' answer is - dots on the thumb, regardless of which hand is used. When the bug was developed, it was clear that the index finger was much more capable of sending continuing dashes than the thumb was - thence the

[Elecraft] paddle key training

2011-03-25 Thread John Cooper
Anyone know of any google or youtube videos or a website that shows how to use a key like the bencher by-1 or 2. Also I would like to poll those that use paddles do you have dits on the left or right paddle? Curious as to what the majority uses. WT5Y My K2 is up and running from getting it

Re: [Elecraft] paddle key training

2011-03-25 Thread Mike
Right handed, BY-1 dits on left.. Go to YouTube and search on iambic keyer. 73, Mike NF4L On 3/25/2011 6:56 PM, John Cooper wrote: Anyone know of any google or youtube videos or a website that shows how to use a key like the bencher by-1 or 2. Also I would like to poll those that use

Re: [Elecraft] paddle key training

2011-03-25 Thread Ron D'Eau Claire
Push paddle right for dits and left for dahs - based on decades of using a conventional right-handed semi-automatic key (bug). I was a bit surprised when, a few years ago, I started hearing about people using the reverse but it makes sense - anything so easily changed will be changed by someone.

Re: [Elecraft] paddle key training

2011-03-25 Thread R. Kevin Stover
On Fri, 25 Mar 2011 17:56:09 -0500 John Cooper w...@gt.rr.com wrote: Anyone know of any google or youtube videos or a website that shows how to use a key like the bencher by-1 or 2. Also I would like to poll those that use paddles do you have dits on the left or right paddle? Curious as to

Re: [Elecraft] paddle key training

2011-03-25 Thread Fred Jensen
On 3/25/2011 3:56 PM, John Cooper wrote: Anyone know of any google or youtube videos or a website that shows how to use a key like the bencher by-1 or 2. Also I would like to poll those that use paddles do you have dits on the left or right paddle? Curious as to what the majority uses. Wow

Re: [Elecraft] paddle key training

2011-03-25 Thread n5ge
Left handed folks generally prefer dit on the right. Anyone have statistics on that? Right handers use dits on the left. However some CW ops have said in the past that they send with their left hand and log with their right. I suppose left handed folks would do the oposite. Tom N5GE On Fri,

Re: [Elecraft] paddle key training

2011-03-25 Thread Gary Gregory
*To everybody, I AM WRONG, so sayeth everyone who tries to use my paddle...Grin* * * *You guessed it folks...My Dits are on the LEFT and DAH's on the right.* * * *But then I AM different, I also live in 'The Land Downunder' where the water in the toilet bowl swirls opposite to the US...is that

Re: [Elecraft] paddle key training

2011-03-25 Thread Ken - K0PP
Thumb on right paddle makes dits. Have a left-handed guest op? Suggest turning paddles around backwards and reach over the top. (:-)) 73! Ken Kopp - K0PP elecraftcov...@gmail.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home:

Re: [Elecraft] paddle key training

2011-03-25 Thread Gary Gregory
*Ken..the FW will reverse it too.* * * *Gary * On 26 March 2011 09:49, Ken - K0PP kengk...@gmail.com wrote: Thumb on right paddle makes dits. Have a left-handed guest op? Suggest turning paddles around backwards and reach over the top. (:-)) 73! Ken Kopp - K0PP elecraftcov...@gmail.com

Re: [Elecraft] paddle key training

2011-03-25 Thread Tony Morgan
You have gotten some good info already, but let me show you an example of some of my favorite types of answers here: Forget about the paddles, you need to use a straight key. 73, Tony W7GO __ Elecraft mailing list Home:

Re: [Elecraft] paddle key training

2011-03-25 Thread Gary Gregory
*Or slack key :-)* *Gary * On 26 March 2011 09:57, Tony Morgan 1desertdwel...@gmail.com wrote: You have gotten some good info already, but let me show you an example of some of my favorite types of answers here: Forget about the paddles, you need to use a straight key. 73, Tony W7GO

Re: [Elecraft] paddle key training

2011-03-25 Thread Wes Stewart
Both of my parents were naturally left-handed. My dad golfed and bowled as a lefty but wrote with his right. I wish I had his penmanship. My mom also wrote right-handed. She learned that after the good nuns in the convent where my grandmother left her would hit her fingers with the edge of

Re: [Elecraft] paddle key training

2011-03-25 Thread Jack West
call my Demo TWO FISTED CW 73 de Jack / W7LD / Lucky Dog - Original Message - From: Ron D'Eau Claire r...@cobi.biz To: 'John Cooper' w...@gt.rr.com; 'elecraft' elecraft@mailman.qth.net Sent: Friday, March 25, 2011 4:14 PM Subject: Re: [Elecraft] paddle key training Push paddle right

Re: [Elecraft] paddle key training

2011-03-25 Thread Bob
As a rule of thumb, dits with the thumb... 73, Bob K2TK On 3/25/2011 7:44 PM, n...@n5ge.com wrote: Left handed folks generally prefer dit on the right. Anyone have statistics on that? Right handers use dits on the left. However some CW ops have said in the past that they send with their

Re: [Elecraft] paddle key training

2011-03-25 Thread Wes Stewart
] paddle key training To: Ken - K0PP kengk...@gmail.com Cc: elecraft elecraft@mailman.qth.net Date: Friday, March 25, 2011, 5:52 PM *Ken..the FW will reverse it too.* * * *Gary * On 26 March 2011 09:49, Ken - K0PP kengk...@gmail.com wrote: Thumb on right paddle makes dits. Have

Re: [Elecraft] paddle key training

2011-03-25 Thread WILLIS COOKE
From: Wes Stewart n...@yahoo.com To: Ken - K0PP kengk...@gmail.com; Gary Gregory garyvk...@gmail.com Cc: elecraft elecraft@mailman.qth.net Sent: Fri, March 25, 2011 7:40:40 PM Subject: Re: [Elecraft] paddle key training As a teenager, I knew an old gentlemen who had been