Re: [Elecraft] Bad fist

2005-04-07 Thread Trevor Day
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Dudley Chapman [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes Al, Here is an old trick taught to me by an Old Timer Navy CW operator. One of the drills he was taught for getting the rhythm of sending CW is to send the phrase Bens Best Bent Wire. If sent like this, BensBest Bent

Re: [Elecraft] Bad fist

2005-04-06 Thread R. Kevin Stover
Jeremiah McCarthy wrote: There are a lot of bad fists out there, but there is NO excuse for what I heard on 40 meters one day last week while I was at the work bench... A station in Canton, Ohio was working 7.037...He got a straight key reply to his CQ that was too weak for me to fully

Re: [Elecraft] Bad fist

2005-04-06 Thread AD5MA
This is the sort of thing that worries me about working CW. I am all in favor of practicing before going on the air but what is available out there to do this? Is there a hardware device software that I can connect a key to that will send information to a PC to test if I'm sending correctly? Al.

Re: [Elecraft] Bad fist

2005-04-06 Thread Able2fly
In a message dated 4/6/2005 10:31:27 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: This is the sort of thing that worries me about working CW. I am all in favor of practicing before going on the air but what is available out there to do this? Is there a hardware device software

Re: [Elecraft] Bad fist

2005-04-06 Thread Mike WA8BXN
A simple way to test your own fist might be to record (on cassette, etc) some of your own sending, save it for a few days and then play it back and see if you can easily copy it. Of the bad fists I have heard, the worst problem seems to be running letters together, followed by little difference in

Re: [Elecraft] Bad fist

2005-04-06 Thread Toby Deinhardt
Hi Al, I used my K2 in test mode and sent the sidetone into the sound card of my computer. There are various CW readers avaidable, e.g.CwGet (see google for others). Some of these will show you your keying in a oscilloscope like display and tend to be very picky when decoding. I found this

Re: [Elecraft] Bad fist

2005-04-06 Thread Tom Hammond
Hi Al: At 09:30 AM 4/6/05, you wrote: This is the sort of thing that worries me about working CW. I am all in favor of practicing before going on the air but what is available out there to do this? Is there a hardware device software that I can connect a key to that will send information to a

Re: [Elecraft] Bad fist

2005-04-06 Thread Buddy Brannan
Hey Al, Don't worry too much. Fortunately, this lid of which we speak (and lid I shall continue to call him) is in the minority. Most ops are fantastic and supportive and will do as much as they can to help your fist improve--or, at the very least, have a nice QSO with you and be glad to do it.

Re: Re: [Elecraft] Bad fist

2005-04-06 Thread vze3v8dt
Funny story about this. I was at the Franklin Institute in Philadelphia. Great science museum for kids of all ages! They have at least three or four places where you can try sending some code. One was a spark gap, one was an old railroad telegraph sender and one used the MFJ-461 or similar.

RE: [Elecraft] Bad fist

2005-04-06 Thread Ron D'Eau Claire
There are a lot of bad fists out there, but there is NO excuse for what I heard on 40 meters one day last week while I was at the work bench...A station in Canton, Ohio was working 7.037...He got a straight key reply to his CQ that was too weak for me to fully copy...His reply was Your sending is

RE: [Elecraft] Bad fist

2005-04-06 Thread Ron D'Eau Claire
Al wrote: This is the sort of thing that worries me about working CW. I am all in favor of practicing before going on the air but what is available out there to do this? Is there a hardware device software that I can connect a key to that will send information to a PC to test if I'm sending

Re: [Elecraft] Bad fist

2005-04-06 Thread David A.Belsley
On Apr 6, 2005, at 10:11 AM, R. Kevin Stover wrote: Jeremiah McCarthy wrote: There are a lot of bad fists out there, but there is NO excuse for what I heard on 40 meters one day last week while I was at the work bench... A station in Canton, Ohio was working 7.037...He got a straight key

Re: [Elecraft] Bad fist

2005-04-06 Thread stephen Farthing
could find it or something similar to get my sending back up to par...73 from cold and rainy UK. Steve G0XAR - Original Message - From: Mike WA8BXN [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Sent: Wednesday, April 06, 2005 4:09 PM Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Bad fist A simple way to test

Re: [Elecraft] Bad fist

2005-04-06 Thread Kevin Rock
I agree with taping your own fist and then copying from it a few days later. But do not record someone on the air and send it to them. I think that will drive folks away from the hobby. Much like showing someone your work of art oo new piece of fiction; unless you are very comfortable with

Re: [Elecraft] Bad fist

2005-04-06 Thread Kevin Rock
I learned CW through a combination of Farnsworth spacing on my CW tapes and sending in the TEST mode on my K2. Then I passed my test. Scared silly I did not get on the air using CW until the next summer when the VE who tested me for element 1 met me at field day. He asked how many contacts

Re: [Elecraft] Bad fist

2005-04-06 Thread Paul Saville
That wasn't a bad fist, it is caused by bat wet-ware. What a lid. What exactly is a lid? A derogatory term for someone who asks silly questions I suppose. Anyone know the origin of the term? 73 Paul ZL3IN ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to:

RE: [Elecraft] Bad fist

2005-04-06 Thread Ron D'Eau Claire
What exactly is a lid? A derogatory term for someone who asks silly questions I suppose. Anyone know the origin of the term? 73 Paul ZL3IN -- You'll get 100 answers at least to that question. In modern vernacular, a LID is a new operator. Hence he/she is likely to commit

Re: [Elecraft] Bad fist

2005-04-06 Thread Deni F5VJC
Here is the colorful (perhaps more myth than fact) version. === Thanks Steve, certainly colourful, and the best I've heard yet, I would like to think it was true! 73, Deni F5VJC / GM3SKN K2 1188 Make RF make QSO/s (Another gem from this

Re: [Elecraft] Bad fist

2005-04-06 Thread N2EY
In a message dated 4/6/05 5:10:49 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: What exactly is a lid? A derogatory term for someone who asks silly questions I suppose. Anyone know the origin of the term? The tobbaco-can-lid story given by others is the origin, passed down from

Re: [Elecraft] Bad fist

2005-04-06 Thread DYARNES
In a message dated 4/6/2005 12:57:46 PM US Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Then I found my current CW mentor (I am not sure if he wants to get mentioned here But Thank you SB!!) He worked with me, and is still working with me. Got me faster and faster. He weaned me

Re: [Elecraft] Bad fist

2005-04-06 Thread N2EY
In a message dated 4/6/05 12:54:00 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I've noticed that happens more often these days as ops get on the air after learning Farnsworth code. It's wonderful that they are able to learn CW more easily and enjoy it more quickly, but several ops