Re: [EM] Ruminations on strategy issues in IRV and Condorcet (was possible improved IRV method)

2006-06-30 Thread raphfrk
From: Simmons, Forest [EMAIL PROTECTED] Any time that IRV does not elect the sincere CW (when there is one) there is going to be a strong incentive for order reversal under IRV, except under the (non-existent) zero information case. [The only real life cases that exist in hot elections are

Re: [EM] Ruminations on strategy issues in IRV and Condorcet (was possible improved IRV method)

2006-06-30 Thread Jonathan Lundell
At 9:28 AM -0400 6/30/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What about a method with determines the IRV winner and the Condorcet winner and then selects one of them using a random ballot. I assume that someone has already suggested it. It seems to me that if you included a reasonable number of election

Re: [EM] possible improved IRV method

2006-06-30 Thread eric
Quoting Eric Gorr [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Allen Pulsifer wrote: Going back to the example I gave, the Condorcet majority that elected D was made up of everyone who did not rank A the highest, i.e., the Not A's, and they all coalesced around D. In reality a coalition like that would never happen

[EM] another proposal for a voting system

2006-06-30 Thread Allen Pulsifer
Here's another proposal for a voting system. Since all voting systems are to some extent strategic, the goal of this system is to enable each voter of groups of voters to achieve their best strategic outcome, consistent with their political power. Here's how it would work: The ballot allows a

Re: [EM] candidate withdrawal IRV - what should the rules be?

2006-06-30 Thread raphfrk
From: Jan Kok [EMAIL PROTECTED] A couple weeks ago Forest Simmons suggested the candidate withdrawal option as a way of improving most election methods. I just realized that the candidate withdrawal option would greatly mitigate the center squeeze problem with IRV. (Sometimes it takes a

Re: [EM] another proposal for a voting system

2006-06-30 Thread Allen Pulsifer
In the runoff election, the plurality wins. I don't think it is appropriate to call it a plurality really. You would need 50% + 1 votes to get elected (unless the other side doesn't unify against you, and then that is tacit support). The plurality was on purpose. If no alliance is able