[EM] Warren Bias-Free reply

2007-01-23 Thread Michael Ossipoff
It's necessary to send this reply in parts, because of a comuter problem. Warren says: Mike Ossipoff in the thus-named post failed to provide any definition or any theorem as usual I reply: Members: Note Warren's flame-war-style angry tone. The same tone with which he began his

[EM] Part 2, Warren Bias-Free reply

2007-01-23 Thread Michael Ossipoff
Warren says: I mentioned before how Ossipoff, in his posts expressing his contempt for probability theory and the lack of need for valid probability density functions... I reply: Would Warren be so good as to post the dates and times of the postings in which I expressed contempt for

[EM] Part 1, Warren Bias-Free reply

2007-01-23 Thread Michael Ossipoff
It's necessary to send this reply in parts, because of a comuter problem. Warren says: Mike Ossipoff in the thus-named post failed to provide any definition or any theorem as usual I reply: Members: Note Warren’s flame-war-style angry tone. The same tone with which he began his

[EM] Part 3, Warren Bias-Free

2007-01-23 Thread Michael Ossipoff
Warrens says: Anyhow, note that my method in http://rangevoting.org/NewAppo.html is capable (with a different value of d) of handling the 1-seat-min still without bias... I reply: At least Warren puts bias in quotes. Warren seems to be using measured q s/q correlation as a

Re: [EM] NPV white paper - Condorcet flaw

2007-01-23 Thread raphfrk
--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], warren_d_smith31 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Nope! I wrote that __only where a state refuses to publish the data needed to calculate the pairwise matrix__ the ballots from this state should be interpreted as FPP ballots. --true. And in the event the data IS

Re: [EM] Why my methods are unbiased by accepted definition

2007-01-23 Thread Dan Bishop
Warren Smith wrote: Mike Ossipoff in the thus-named post failed to provide any definition or any theorem as usual, while also failing to answer my question about Hamilton's method. Concerning further issues related to Apportionment: 1. Ossipoff's bias free method can be cast in a global

[EM] Unbias by definition. Quantitative bias comparisons by testing.

2007-01-23 Thread Michael Ossipoff
I've told why my methods are unbiased according to the popular meaning of bias. (BF's unbias depends on the distribution; Weighted BF's unbias depends on the accuracy of its distribution approximation). To disagree with those claims, tell why you disagree with that bias definition, and provide

Re: [EM] Noise (Was: Credentials?)

2007-01-23 Thread Ken Kuhlman
There's a lot I could cover here, but let's just touch on the very basics: First, I'm happy to report that I've discovered that Nabble is able to act both as a gateway and an archive for Mailman (which is the software that this listserv runs). This effectively means that we don't have to come to