[EM] voting reform effort in DENVER - PLEASE HELP

2006-06-11 Thread Jan Kok
Denver city councilwoman Kathleen MacKenzie is leading an effort to get rid of their Plurality + delayed runoff election method, used for electing city council members and a few other city officers, and replacing it with IRV. 10 days ago I attended a meeting of that group. There were about 12

Re: [EM] voting reform effort in DENVER - PLEASE HELP

2006-06-11 Thread raphfrk
Jan Kok [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think a victory for IRV in Denver would be a step SIDEways for voting reform in general. Yes, IRV is better than Plurality + delayed top-two runoff. Yes, a victory for IRV would get the issue of voting reform a little more into the public consciousness;

Re: [EM] voting reform effort in DENVER - PLEASE HELP

2006-06-11 Thread Abd ul-Rahman Lomax
I've removed the Approval Voting address from the To: header since I'm banned there. Jan can forward this if he thinks it relevant to that list. At 08:24 AM 6/11/2006, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Right. However, the real problem is that it is hard to change the voting system as the current winners

Re: [EM] voting reform effort in DENVER - PLEASE HELP

2006-06-11 Thread Chris Benham
Jan Kok wrote: I would like for Denver to adopt something better than plain old IRV. Looking at the link, I was glad to see that they were proposing to implement IRV properly, and not some abomination like automated Top-Two Runoff (TTR) or not allowing full ranking. 1. Proportional

Re: [EM] voting reform effort in DENVER - PLEASE HELP

2006-06-11 Thread Abd ul-Rahman Lomax
Once again, this message is sent to a series of lists, including the Approval Voting list, where I'm banned. I've deleted that from the series, Mr. Kok can forward it if he thinks it relevant. At 12:09 PM 6/11/2006, Chris Benham wrote: Elections should be decided directly by the votes of

Re: [EM] voting reform effort in DENVER - PLEASE HELP

2006-06-11 Thread Brian Olson
The approach I'm taking is to write all the good methods into law and allow the election official in charge (secretary of state, county clerk, etc) to pick from an approved method. I've been writing something up sorta in the format of California Law which I think is almost ready and I plan

Re: [EM] voting reform effort in DENVER - PLEASE HELP

2006-06-11 Thread Abd ul-Rahman Lomax
At 03:45 PM 6/11/2006, Chris Benham wrote: That assumes that the interests and/or preferences of voters are identical to the candidates they vote for. This is an argument against representative democracy, isn't it? Mr. Benham is assuming, first of all, that candidates in an Asset Voting