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Bejamin,
I think we fundamentally agree about most things except for one statement
you made (I think you're seeing some disagreement where there is none),
which is why I'll only respond to this.
You said Since this isn't fixed, tell me what the benefit of Approval is
in the real world over
candidate.
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it is
absolutely necessary).
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on and on...)
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nonmonotonicity and huge
administrative, technical, auditability and other practical problems.
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I tried to vote by registering and then returning on a later day to
vote and was unable to find any link to the vote page without going
through the register page, which I had already done. Thus, I did not
vote.
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One
-- WIGM STV (eg, Scottish STV)
-- Other STV
-- Approval voting
The poll will close on November 20 and I will report results shortly
thereafter.
best,
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. Isn't that
so?
I did not realize that Jefferson supported a proportional system of
electing representatives.
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I have looked further at the PDF measure, and I've found a more-serious
problem.
Using your examples, imagine that the central city, instead of containing 60
Democrats, contains a homogeneous mix of 40 Democrats and
on this
topic is here:
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To measure whether a plan is proportionately fair -- giving both urban
and rural dwellers representation roughly proportional to their
population -- this attached article now introduces an objective,
nonpartisan population density fairness (PDF) measure for evaluating
when a plan produces
redistricting
plans for regions having diverse population densities.
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pretend to be. So this is not really a
criticism; more just a comment.
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FYI, This is pretty exciting stuff re. redistricting. I've been
working for the last several weeks on this and believe I may have
derived a new, and fairly simple
to be removed
from each tied candidate? And why is this a good tie-breaking method?
Thanks.
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One of the best
the powers available to the president (veto
power and appointment power in the DoJ) and appointed the same people
who helped cause the financial crisis to try to solve it (which
doesn't work), and thus has squandered his opportunities to a large
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unnecessary details that people may not agree upon.
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as stupid and
incredibly-ultra-stupid measures, respectively:
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there are no routine procedures in place to
detect such tampering.
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difference -
regardless of whether the number of seats is known in advance or not.
I was only considering contests where the # of seats are known in my
remarks. Thus, I do not think that your definitions are sufficient
for evaluating methods.
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, range, or approval) as input. I
like it - although I've not examined it in depth in a spreadsheet yet.
As a single-winner method, it reduces to Range or Borda respectively.
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Kathy Dopp wrote:
From: Kristofer Munsterhjelm km_el...@lavabit.com
I don't think that passes DPC (since Borda doesn't pass Majority), but
it passes the weaker force proportionality criterion (in that an 1/n
time soon).
On Sat, Jul 23, 2011 at 12:00 PM, Kristofer Munsterhjelm
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Kathy Dopp wrote:
On Sat, Jul 23, 2011 at 9:33 AM, Kristofer Munsterhjelm
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Kathy Dopp wrote:
From: Kristofer Munsterhjelm km_el...@lavabit.com
I don't think that passes
a substantial number of persons
nationwide.
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the integrity of outcomes. Both
IRV and STV pose a serious threat the fairness and integrity of
elections IMO and I oppose these methods strongly.
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is not equivalent to the other, so No.
Sorry. Too busy today to go through the rest of your statements currently.
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by more
voters.
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To: EM election-methods@lists.electorama.com
Subject: Re: [EM] What's wrong with the party list system?
On 4.7.2011, at 4.08, Kathy Dopp wrote:
Thanks for the responses. In response to the party leaders having too
much control, I believe
a different set
of candidates over the ones elected by Droop.
Interesting.
Kathy
On Mon, Jul 4, 2011 at 9:22 AM, Kristofer Munsterhjelm
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Kathy Dopp wrote:
On Sun, Jul 3, 2011 at 1:34 PM, Kristofer Munsterhjelm
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Let me pull an old example again
- which would be
probably only administratively and voter practical for electing
smaller, more local bodies of representatives.)
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of government in your example, without the use of the Droop
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On Sun, Jul 3, 2011 at 2:33 AM, Kristofer Munsterhjelm
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Kathy Dopp wrote:
I do not like this system and believe it is improper to call it
Condorcet. It seems to have all the same flaws as IRV - hiding the
lower choice votes of voters, except if the voter voted
is that it gives control to party elites - those who select
the party candidates and decide order on which they come on said list.
Personally I think there are many ways to overcome that problem, and it can
be a good method.
What, for instance?
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are elected, they produce the transitive candidate set order AD
AB BC CD.? The next highest
priority relation CD AD is excluded since the higher priority relations have
determined that AD CD.? According to this procedure, candidates A and
D are elected.
-Ross Hyman
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to and will add a
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of the asset
votes were cast for that person. But it's probably not a good idea -
just a passing thought.
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should we call it?
Can anybody think of a better deterministic voting method for a single winner
public proposal?
Forest
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be simple to
program counting (simply add up all the two candidate votes and tally
all the bullet votes for each candidate, plus the 2nd vote from the
list of candidate 2nd approvals).
However, I still like Condorcet as a method if we're willing to add
ballot complexity of rank choice ballots.
Kathy
for
by at most one.
Kathy
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sample ballots recommended by the various candidates.
Asset voting makes this automatic for 100% of the voters. That's probably
going too far, so how do we
get a compromise between Asset voting and Condorcet?
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be
hard to explain to the general public. I like Condorcet in general. I
also like Approval because it is so simple and could be done using
today's voting systems (hardware) and ballots.
Thanks.
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proposing that the federal government do all the counting of
votes? Or what new federal laws are you proposing to force the
election admin procedures to be the same within multi-state districts?
One or more constitutional amendment(s)?
I assume you've arranged these with roughly equal population.
Kathy
is it, the Fair[rytale] Vote crowd?, that
controls the IRV wikipedia?
I am curious as to the story. Thank you.
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to be avoided.
I'm glad we seem to agree that later-no-harm is not a good feature of
a voting system because it prevents compromise.
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I can't help wondering why anyone would think it beneficial to have
either later-no-harm or burial prevention in a voting method. Here is
why:
1. later-no-harm prevents finding compromise candidates, and thus is
not a desirable feature of a voting method, and
2. if a voter tries to bury a
matter?
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not beat X pairwise.? There is a
range 1=c(X,Y)=(n/2) - 1 in which either X beats
Y or they tie - both are possible. ?
As calculating the median is relatively expensive, the
above probably is not useful as an algorithm.
Any thoughts?
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for
candidates.
Kathy Dopp, LWV, NYS
The odd IRV numbers
Posted by Doug Clark on Thursday, January 6, 2011 at 10:30 am
I think we've seen the last of IRV voting in North Carolina, State
of Elections Executive Director Gary Bartlett told me this week.
I
cooperation of all NC county election
officials to truly investigate this in detail. It looks like the NC
State Board of Elections is trying to keep this quiet by being stingy
about sharing the data file I got a hold of.
On Fri, Jan 7, 2011 at 12:21 AM, Kathy Dopp kathy.d...@gmail.com wrote
and lack of
auditability when the chance is so high of not getting a good outcome
like this whenever the result differs from plurality.
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to (then) win.
It is fortunate for them that those Perata-hating voters stayed home!
IRV is is hardly worth all the extra costs and complexity and lack of
auditability when the chance is so high of not getting a good outcome
like this whenever the result differs from plurality.
Kathy Dopp
mathematics for post-election audits - might be
a challenge to figure out how to limit the risk of certifying an
incorrect candidate.
Do you have a multi-winner version or a proportional representation version?
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One of the best
://wiki.electorama.com/wiki/Arrow%27s_Theorem
by simultaneously satisfying monotonicity and independence of irrelevant
alternativeshttp://wiki.electorama.com/wiki/Independence_of_irrelevant_alternatives
(as
well as of course sovereignty and non-dictatorship).
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of Participation Criterion that you linked to says:
Adding one or more ballots that vote X over Y should never change the
winner from X to Y.
so failing the criteria means adding more votes having X Y would
change the winner from X to Y. i.e. failing monotonicity.
Kathy
2010/10/18 Kathy Dopp kathy.d
than the old version
(because, in the new version, I use one
and only one heuristic for the Schulze
method). The proofs are simpler because
I moved the random ballot tie-breaker
from section 2 to section 5.
Markus Schulze
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visit:
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will establish GMV-
friendly webpages asap so that one or more GMV-related urls can be
pointed to that page immediately, and some of the url ownership
rights can be transferred also.
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On Fri, Jul 16, 2010 at 7:39 AM, Kristofer Munsterhjelm
km-el...@broadpark.no wrote:
Kathy Dopp wrote:
Kristofer,
If you are trying to generate disproofs of criterion compliance then
using equal probability of selecting each ballot type for each voter
may be preventing you from generating
).
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Voters Have
safe. Ranking candidates according to what is easy, and not ranking
the rest, with good ballot and system design, then uses the ranking
as evidence of clear -- i.e., relatively strong -- preference, and
the not-ranking as lack of preference. Isn't that what it means?
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Yes. I agree with your scenario of not needing a runoff Abd ul.
On Wed, May 26, 2010 at 9:47 PM, Abd ul-Rahman Lomax
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At 09:33 PM 5/26/2010, Kathy Dopp wrote:
Abd ul,
I agree with virtually everything you say here.
Thanks.
However, I would also
consider
plus preferences is over the
second-highest base score; and nevertheless, it would frequently be only
two candidates, removing the need for any fancy counting at all.
JQ
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to happen in the Assembly!
(Unless this becomes direct/asset democracy, which allows the
electors to continue to exercise voting power when they so choose,
seats are only elected for representation in deliberation and default
voting power.)
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Approval voting uses a different satisfaction metric.
Each voter is consider to have satisfaction of
1 + 1/2 + 1/3 + + 1/N
where N is the number of approved candidates who are elected.
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On Thu, May 20, 2010 at 11:35 AM, Kristofer Munsterhjelm
km-el...@broadpark.no wrote:
Kathy Dopp wrote:
Would that system still be additive like SAV is? Not sure how you
obtain the satisfaction scores for each possible group of winning
candidates or candidate satisfaction scores from voters
time sometime this summer to explain this
method in a simple way that everyone can understand in case the
authors' paper is difficult for some to read.
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On Wed, May 19, 2010 at 5:17 PM, Kristofer Munsterhjelm
km-el...@broadpark.no wrote:
Kathy Dopp wrote:
No one on this list seemed to find the time to look up this reference
to a better additive proportional representation system using approval
ballots that I pointed out to this list a couple
is analogous to STV's Woodall
vote management (don't vote for a candidate that would otherwise win),
I meant, of course, Hylland vote management. Woodall vote management
involves prefixing the vote with preferences for no-hopes, and as such isn't
relevant in this context.
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honesty hurt your feelings, but I am trying
to get you to think outside your box and do some reality-checking, and
I lack patience for people who pretend and mischaracterize so much.
It's one of my flaws.
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their votes help their last choice candidate win the election.
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methods.
There are methods that are a step forward from plurality. IRV/STV are
not among them.
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Date: Mon, 10 May 2010 21:19:45 -0400
From: robert bristow-johnson r...@audioimagination.com
To: election-methods Methods election-methods@lists.electorama.com
On May 10, 2010, at 6:23 PM, Kathy Dopp wrote:
Date: Mon, 10 May 2010 14:55:19 -0400
From: robert bristow-johnson r
, than yours, so in your way of thinking, then that
makes *you* the liar, doesn't it?
Enough today of rebutting BS.
Gotta do other work.
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the issue that the exclusion of voters from
participating in IRV/STV is INVOLUNTARY and all voters are allowed
freely to participate in the 2nd round of a real runoff election, at
their pleasure.
IRV/STV BS patrol continues.
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One
that Condorcet, Approval and other methods that can also be
applied in PR elections would be far less problematic and destructive
of voting rights and even be an improvement over plurality.
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creative definition of majority, the
likes of which no one has ever heard of before, not surprising anyone
coming from you Terry?
OK. I've had enough of utter-BS rebutting today. Sigh. Time to wash
dishes instead. ;-)
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One
that party
receives. There may be more than one counting procedure for party
list systems.
Cheers,
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Date: Sun, 25 Apr 2010 22:24:47 +0200
From: Peter Zbornik pzbor...@gmail.com
To: election-methods@lists.electorama.com
Subject: [EM] Proportional election method needed for the Czech
. The Utah
Republican party just dropped (stopped) using IRV for their own
primary elections. I would highly recommend against using STV for
*any* purpose.
Cheers,
Kathy
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explain that to me? Apparently the courts or people in
Germany have decided to remedy (eliminate) the nonmonotonicity before
the next major election.
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On Sat, Mar 27, 2010 at 2:55 PM, Abd ul-Rahman Lomax
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At 04:43 PM 3/26/2010, Kathy Dopp wrote:
Well that would certainly be a way of overcoming any effective
minority representation in legislatures by always making sure that the
representative elected by a majority
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It sounds more like a
Upon cursory reflection and in response to my strong opposition to any
nonmonotonic method and to any method that fail to treat all voters'
votes equally, the only proportional method I know I would support for
legislative representation would be the party list system where
candidates appear only
, should be your choice.
Power to the voters.
Count all the Votes.
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Kathy Dopp
http://electionmathematics.org
Town of Colonie, NY 12304
One of the best ways to keep any conversation civil is to support the
discussion with true facts.
Realities Mar Instant Runoff Voting
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to the large number
of rounds required. The candidate list method gives some of the
flexibility of PR-STV and the national level proportionality of party
list systems.
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Kathy Dopp
http://electionmathematics.org
Town of Colonie, NY 12304
One of the best ways to keep any conversation civil
otherwise be
anonymized. Under this scheme, candidates would not vote in the
general election directly, they would vote by identified ballot.)
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Kathy Dopp
http://electionmathematics.org
Town of Colonie, NY 12304
One of the best ways to keep any conversation civil is to support the
discussion
On Sat, Mar 13, 2010 at 5:27 PM, Raph Frank raph...@gmail.com wrote:
On Sat, Mar 13, 2010 at 8:53 PM, Kathy Dopp kathy.d...@gmail.com wrote:
Abd ul, I agree with virtually all you say that I had time to read,
but would prefer party list voting over asset voting simply because it
forces the #1
I agree with virtually everything you say here Abd ul.
Kathy
On Tue, Mar 9, 2010 at 9:42 PM, Abd ul-Rahman Lomax a...@lomaxdesign.com
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At 11:21 PM 3/7/2010, Kathy Dopp wrote:
On Sun, Mar 7, 2010 at 9:08 PM, Abd ul-Rahman Lomax a...@lomaxdesign.com
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At 12:39 AM 3/7/2010, Kathy
this here.
TTR is not the best to hope for.
Condorcet is good.
Asset is up to Abd ul to defend.
On Mar 9, 2010, at 9:42 PM, Abd ul-Rahman Lomax wrote:
At 11:21 PM 3/7/2010, Kathy Dopp wrote:
On Sun, Mar 7, 2010 at 9:08 PM, Abd ul-Rahman Lomax a...@lomaxdesign.com
wrote:
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On Sun, Mar 7, 2010 at 9:08 PM, Abd ul-Rahman Lomax a...@lomaxdesign.com
wrote:
At 12:39 AM 3/7/2010, Kathy Dopp wrote:
I've posted the latest plaintiffs' legal brief here. Plaintiffs
Francisco rank only three version of IRV.
http://kathydopp.com/wordpress/?cat=8
It is actually brilliant
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