Re: [Election-Methods] Ballots with cycles

2008-03-05 Thread Dave Ketchum
In ranking systems we think of the voter assigning a numeric rank to each candidate such as, for A,B, 4,5 or 4,4 or 5,4. What are you proposing? Remember also that in a race for governor the voting information must go to a central counting site. In Condorcet, without your proposal, the

Re: [Election-Methods] Ballots with cycles

2008-03-05 Thread Juho
On Mar 5, 2008, at 14:54 , Andrew Myers wrote: Suppose that in a Condorcet system, we allow people to submit a ballot that has an arbitrary preference relation, so any two alternative A and B can have either AB, A=B, or AB. There can therefore be cycles in the graph of preferences, like ABCA.

Re: [Election-Methods] Ballots with cycles

2008-03-05 Thread Andrew Myers
Juho wrote: Use of arbitrary preferences is interesting but rather theoretical, and the changes in the outcome might be marginal (at least in typical public elections). Any more reasons why it should be allowed? (In regular public elections also the complexity of the ballots might be a

Re: [Election-Methods] Using range ballots as an extension of ranked ballot voting

2008-03-05 Thread Abd ul-Rahman Lomax
At 03:20 PM 3/2/2008, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm curious about voting methods that take ranked ballot methods and adapt them to range ballots. For example, with Baldwin's method, you take drop the candidate with the lowest Borda score, recalculate, and so on. A range variant might drop the

Re: [Election-Methods] Ballots with cycles

2008-03-05 Thread Juho
Thanks. I missed the part of breaking the ballot into pieces already before counting it. I know one example where at least people claimed that one person monitoring the elections in a small village, after watching all the voters vote, after the day had almost accurate results on how many

Re: [Election-Methods] Ballots with cycles

2008-03-05 Thread Juho
I missed one case. The votes can be made more anonymous by allowing only a limited number of candidates, or using ballots that contain complete rankings only if the number of candidates happens to be small enough. Typical presidential elections might e.g. have only say five candidates and