Re: Blake's margins arguments

2003-02-25 Thread Olli Salmi
to emphasize majority of those present and voting, as apposed to a special majority or a majority of all members. SImple majority clearly means absolute majority in this link from Scotland: http://www.sec.ed.ac.uk/Committees/AcYear/consult/VotingPaper.htm Olli Salmi For more information about

Re: Population paradox

2003-02-05 Thread Olli Salmi
a suitable utility function - of the citizen's 'representation share'. Webster's method favours large and small states (or parties) equally. http://www.aps.org/apsnews/0401/040117.html Olli Salmi For more information about this list (subscribe, unsubscribe, FAQ, etc), please see http

Re: [EM] population paradox using largest remainder with small# of voters?

2003-02-01 Thread Olli Salmi
/vaalimat.html Olli Salmi The parameters are as follows: the regional tournament has 16 teams - this is fixed. Realistically, most sections will have between 3 and 20 teams, with some approaching 25 or so. 6-14 or so is be the most common range. Every section is guaranteed at least one bid

Re: [EM] 01/17/03 - No Problem, Olli:

2003-01-27 Thread Olli Salmi
not include A, B or C, the results are the ones you get with the Droop quota. If they all have A, B or C, the voters still get one of their preferences elected, whether you count the papers or not. Why does it matter so much? Olli Salmi For more information about this list (subscribe

Re: [EM] 01/05/03 - Two Replies for Olli:

2003-01-07 Thread Olli Salmi
seats: 25.1% A, 25.1% B, 25.1% C , 24.7% D? Olli Salmi For more information about this list (subscribe, unsubscribe, FAQ, etc), please see http://www.eskimo.com/~robla/em

[EM] Davison-SNTV

2002-12-29 Thread Olli Salmi
average votes per candidate.' Olli Salmi For more information about this list (subscribe, unsubscribe, FAQ, etc), please see http://www.eskimo.com/~robla/em

Re: [EM] 12/28/02 - Re: Multi member district methods:

2002-12-29 Thread Olli Salmi
will be wasted votes of excluded voters. Doesn't that depend on the way the voters vote? If they happen to be divided in groups of 33 1/3%, there will be no votes wasted. Olli Salmi For more information about this list (subscribe, unsubscribe, FAQ, etc), please see http://www.eskimo.com

RE: [EM] Best method in use?

2002-12-17 Thread Olli Salmi
list PR, perhaps the only place in North America that has it. I haven't found enough detailed information about it, though. I don't think their constitution and bye-laws say much about it. Olli Salmi For more information about this list (subscribe, unsubscribe, FAQ, etc), please see http

Re: RE: [EM] Best method in use?

2002-12-17 Thread Olli Salmi
of that as a transfer, the votes are transferred to the top vote-getters, or if some of them poll more than enough, to lower candidates. Olli Salmi For more information about this list (subscribe, unsubscribe, FAQ, etc), please see http://www.eskimo.com/~robla/em

Re: Olli -- voting show

2002-12-10 Thread Olli Salmi
different voting powers. The method doesn't allow an opinion on every pair. But it looks like a single vote that is transferable within a set of candidates, that was the point I was trying to make. Olli Salmi For more information about this list (subscribe, unsubscribe, FAQ, etc), please see

RE: [EM] Need IRV examples; voting show

2002-12-09 Thread Olli Salmi
of election should find the Approval winner sequentially, if I've got it right. The order of preferences is of course irrelevant and so is the order in which eliminations are decided. Olli Salmi For more information about this list (subscribe, unsubscribe, FAQ, etc), please see http

RE: [EM] Need IRV examples; voting show

2002-12-08 Thread Olli Salmi
have most power if I approve all of them? Olli Salmi For more information about this list (subscribe, unsubscribe, FAQ, etc), please see http://www.eskimo.com/~robla/em

RE: [EM] D'Hondt without lists

2002-11-16 Thread Olli Salmi
by preferential d'Hondt-Phragmén's method, probably in the 1920s. One of the problems with the 1909 Elections Act was the combination of a preferential rule with a non-preferential one, which together with the problems that Thiele's mehods has, could lead to unacceptable outcomes. Olli Salmi

RE: [EM] D'Hondt without lists

2002-11-14 Thread Olli Salmi
). Olli Salmi For more information about this list (subscribe, unsubscribe, FAQ, etc), please see http://www.eskimo.com/~robla/em

[EM] D'Hondt without lists

2002-08-16 Thread Olli Salmi
. http://www.cix.co.uk/~rosenstiel/stv/orderstv.htm The idea is so simple that it has probably been proposed many times before. It should be noted that in the single-winner case this method does not reduce to IRV. Olli Salmi For more information about this list (subscribe, unsubscribe, FAQ, etc

RE: [EM] 2-step CR: A proposal

2002-05-28 Thread Olli Salmi
, apparently in 1964, and I couldn't find statute books from the sixties. Olli Salmi For more information about this list (subscribe, unsubscribe, FAQ, etc), please see http://www.eskimo.com/~robla/em

RE: [EM] 2-step CR: A proposal

2002-05-28 Thread Olli Salmi
The names of ineligible persons are disregarded and the following candidate is elected instead. Sorry about the inaccuracy. The vote is counted for the following candidate/ the following candidate is moved up. Olli Salmi For more information about this list (subscribe, unsubscribe, FAQ

Re: [EM] Bounded AV

2002-04-29 Thread Olli Salmi
about this. I sent one earlier from a computer I didn't subscribe to this list from and it hasn't shown up yet. Olli Salmi At 03:00 +0300 29.4.2002, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have a question that has been bugging me, and now that I'm not a candidate I can indulge myself. I read a paper by Marji

[EM] The Speaker

2002-04-24 Thread Olli Salmi
and the Prime Minister. Olli Salmi For more information about this list (subscribe, unsubscribe, FAQ, etc), please see http://www.eskimo.com/~robla/em

Re: Approval in E Europe [was IRV...; was ...Approval]

2002-04-20 Thread Olli Salmi
/legislation/kaz_el99.htm Thanks for the links. Here's a nice one: http://www.psr.keele.ac.uk/election.htm Olli Salmi For more information about this list (subscribe, unsubscribe, FAQ, etc), please see http://www.eskimo.com/~robla/em

Re: [EM] RE: BC PR

2002-04-16 Thread Olli Salmi
I misunderstood parts of the Weimar Republic Elections Act. At 20:22 +0300 15.4.2002, Olli Salmi wrote: Elections Act 24/7/1920 in German: http://www.reichspresseamt.de/Rechtsfundstellen/reichswahlgesetz.html Elections were regulated by the Elections Act. Men and women from the age of 20 could

RE: [EM] Parliamentarianism

2002-04-15 Thread Olli Salmi
://www.netnexus.uklinux.net/projects/stv/fsmd.html Olli Salmi For more information about this list (subscribe, unsubscribe, FAQ, etc), please see http://www.eskimo.com/~robla/em

Re: [EM] RE: BC PR

2002-04-15 Thread Olli Salmi
1924 and 1933. The scope lies mainly in the radicalization towards the left and the right edge of the political party spectrum, which finally led to the end of the Weimar democratic system. The legal texts might also be online in English but I didn't search for them. Olli Salmi For more

Re: [EM] Parliamentarianism

2002-04-13 Thread Olli Salmi
Juliet, coded in Java. Here's the programmer's manual, if it's still online: http://thor.cam.ac.uk/group/CST1b/juliet/swc23/ProgDoc.htm. Olli Salmi At 22:52 +0300 12.4.2002, Narins, Josh wrote: Has anyone written on the relation between multi-option voting systems and parliamentary

Re: [EM] BASIC PARTS OF THE B.C. GREEN PARTY P.R. PROPOSAL FEB.2002

2002-04-03 Thread Olli Salmi
ballot paper is stamped, which presumably serves the same purpose. Olli Salmi

Re: [EM] Lewis Carroll and limited vote

2002-03-27 Thread Olli Salmi
System to Evolve http://www.nd.edu/~kellogg/pdfs/taageper.pdf Olli Salmi

RE: Open and Closed Lists (was ...STV for Candidate...)

2002-02-13 Thread Olli Salmi
to avoid a 50-50 result. With more seats to be filled there may always be a group which is not large enough to be entitled for one seat. Their votes are wasted. Or have I got it all wrong? Olli Salmi

Re: [EM] Open and Closed Lists (was ...STV for Candidate...)

2002-02-08 Thread Olli Salmi
with list PR. This gives room for all sort of people. Olli Salmi

Re: [EM] 02/03/02 - STV for Candidate Lists:

2002-02-06 Thread Olli Salmi
the same. Olli Salmi

Re: [EM] Not logical electoral system?

2002-01-30 Thread Olli Salmi
just count as many topmost quotients as are needed. The extra division is unnecessary and it's easier to see which parties tie for a seat. Olli Salmi At 17:19 +0200 30.1.2002, Jurij Toplak wrote: Art. 23. Members of the representative body are elected by proportional system with party lists

Re: [EM] Interesting use of Borda count

2002-01-28 Thread Olli Salmi
. The results are faxed to the EBU scrutineer before they are read on air. Olli Salmi

Re: [EM] German parliament votes for military support

2001-11-21 Thread Olli Salmi
and last time for each). At the bottom eligible voters, votes, blank votes, invalid votes, turn-out, percentage of invalid votes. Perhaps they have it in English somewhere. Olli Salmi

Re: [EM] German parliament votes for military support

2001-11-20 Thread Olli Salmi
edition of the Encyclopaedia Britannica mocked Americans for letting the stars decide the date of the election and for a long time after I read that it was difficult for me to take fixed terms seriously. Regards, Olli Salmi

Re: Erratic Results and Non-Erractic Results

1998-04-27 Thread Olli Salmi
, and 2 for both. Is it sure that Hare doesn't give unfair advantage to small parties? Olli Salmi At 15:19 +0300 26.4.1998, New Democracy wrote: Party Votes 19 Seat 20 Seat Differences Quotient Seats Quotient SeatsQuotient Seats A 550

RE: An election method to replace MMP

1998-04-17 Thread Olli Salmi
member constituencies, such as the Australian House of Representatives or to multi member constituencies elected by STV proportional representation, such as the Irish Dail. The non-ordinal systems are, IMHO, poor alternatives that might be better suited to less numerate societies. Olli Salmi From