Re: [EM] Method definitions

2000-05-28 Thread Markus Schulze
Dear participants, a few month ago there was a discussion whether Condorcet implicitely presumes that every voter makes a complete ranking of all candidates. On 8 March 2000, I wrote that in the paper "Sur les Elections / On elections" (Journal d'Instruction Sociale, vol. 1, p. 25-32, 1793)

Re: [EM] Method definitions

2000-03-08 Thread Markus Schulze
Dear Mike, Condorcet writes ("Sur les Elections," Journal d'Instruction Sociale, vol. 1, p. 25-32, 1793): Mais il n'est pas necessaire que chacun fasse toutes ces comparaisons, compose une liste complette; il peut en regarder un certain nombre comme egaux entr'eux, soit qu'il les juge tels

Re: [EM] Method definitions

2000-03-07 Thread MIKE OSSIPOFF
Markus wrote: in his paper "Sur la Forme des Elections" (1789), Condorcet proposes a Copeland method. He writes: If there are only 20 competitors then -to get the result of their head to head comparisons- it is necessary to evaluate the votes for 190 propositions, and for 780

Re: [EM] Method definitions

2000-03-07 Thread Markus Schulze
Dear Blake, in his paper "Sur la Forme des Elections" (1789), Condorcet proposes a Copeland method. He writes: S'il y a seulement vingt Concurrens, pour avoir le resultat de leur comparaisons deux a deux, il faut examiner les voix donnees sur 190 propositions, et sur 780 propositions s'il y

Re: [EM] Method definitions (remainder of reply)

2000-03-01 Thread Norman Petry
Hi Mike, Welcome back to the list, by the way :-) You wrote: There is no justification for deciding that Condorcet favoured winning-votes, however. Except for the way "plurality" is used now in reference to voting. Maybe it was used differently in Condorcet's time country, but until we

Re: [EM] Method definitions (remainder of reply)

2000-03-01 Thread MIKE OSSIPOFF
MIKE OSSIPOFF wrote: I don't know of a MinMax or Condorcet definition in an academic article that says anything about incomplete rankings. That's what I thought. My point is, that if they aren't considering the issue of incomplete rankings, they might say one of: 1. Find

Re: [EM] Method definitions (partial reply)

2000-02-29 Thread MIKE OSSIPOFF
The translations of Condorcet's own words for his bottom-up iteration proposal have Plain Condorcet as their literal interpretation. Yes some of us, including me, believe that Mr. Condorcet meant more than Plain Condorcet, but what I call Plain Condorcet is the literal, simplest

[EM] Method definitions

2000-02-29 Thread Markus Schulze
Dear participants, on page LXVIII of his "Essai sur l'application de l'analyse a la probabilite des decisions rendues a la pluralite des voix" (Imprimerie Royale, Paris, 1785), Condorcet writes due to my own translation: From the considerations, we have just made, we get the general rule,

[EM] Method definitions

2000-02-28 Thread Blake Cretney
This is in reply to Mike Ossipoff Re: Pairwise Matrices and Ballots I am changing the subject heading because the topic changed. MIKE OSSIPOFF wrote: I don't know of a MinMax or Condorcet definition in an academic article that says anything about incomplete rankings. That's what I