Forest:
Most preferred according to the information in the ordinal preference ballots.
SB
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On Mon, 18 Feb 2002, Steve Barney wrote:
Yes, of course we have limited information by which to determine the
group's
best
On Tue, 19 Feb 2002, Adam Tarr wrote:
Basically, whoever starts in first place in the cyclic
tie wins, since whoever makes it up to challenge them must be the candidate
that loses to them. So insofar as Borda seeded bubble sort uses Borda
count to decide things, it has the same
On Tue, 19 Feb 2002, Steve Barney wrote:
Forest:
What do you think of circular triplets, such as:
ABC
BCA
CAB,
and reversals, such as:
ABC
CBA.
If that is all the information that we have to go on (when ordinal preference
ballots are used, it is
On Wed, 20 Feb 2002, Steve Barney wrote:
Most preferred according to the information in the ordinal preference ballots.
I don't think you are saying that we should choose the candidate that
contributes the most (or least) information to the ballot.
Example:
51 ABCD
49 DBAC
B's rank
On Wed, 20 Feb 2002, Adam Tarr wrote:
Forest wrote:
(1) Bubble sort starts from the top and works down: If the Borda order is
A B C , then Bubble compares A and B first, and then advances C as
far up as possible, one comparison at a time. So in circular ties
Bubble can
Forest wrote:
In three way races Black, Ranked Pairs, and SSD all give the same answer
if there are no truncations, so none has any possible advantage over the
others in three way races without truncations.
What about the election
9:ABC
8:BCA
6:CAB
B wins under Black but A wins under
Rob:
First, I really never thought of Buchanan as a clone of Bush, just as I didn't
think of Gore as a clone of Bush (Nader may have, but I didn't). In fact, in
that election it always seemed to me that the fairly strong vote for Nader in
Florida and other states, in spite of the obvious spoiler
On Wed, 20 Feb 2002, Rob LeGrand wrote:
Forest wrote:
In three way races Black, Ranked Pairs, and SSD all give the same answer
if there are no truncations, so none has any possible advantage over the
others in three way races without truncations.
Oops!
What about the election
Steve,
The term clones refers to candidates who are together on every ballot in an
election. In other words, on no ballot does any other candidate separate them.
(Markus has a good formal definition.) The term doesn't imply that the
candidates are actually alike in any way, much less that
Forest wrote:
Unfortunately, at least according to my simulations so far, BSBS is much
worse at SU given sincere votes than BSSE or Black.
I knew that, but that's part of the inevitable tradeoff. The higher the
SU in this class of methods, the less likely that the votes will be
sincere.
I wrote and Markus responded,
Shwartz Sequential Dropping is better. The only
differences as far as I can tell are that
1) You only deal with the Smith Set
2) You consider number of voters in favor of the defeat, not the margin
of the defeat.
I don't understand this paragraph. Do you
Mr. LeGrand wrote in part-
The term clones refers to candidates who are together on every ballot in an
election. In other words, on no ballot does any other candidate separate
them.
(Markus has a good formal definition.) The term doesn't imply that the
candidates are actually alike in any
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Adam wrote:
49: Bush
24: Gore
27: Nader,Gore
Bush beats Nader 49-27
Nader beats Gore 27-24
Gore beats Bush 51-49
With ranked pairs, the Gore-Bush defeat is overturned, and Bush wins,
despite a true majority preferring Gore to Bush. In SSD the Nader-Gore
defeat gets overturned, and
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