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I think the basic entry points (and their aliases) at least should get
autoload cookies.
What is the right way to do this given the way I conditionalized the
defalias:
(unless (fboundp 'irc)
;;;###autoload
be appropriate (image viewers with provisions for panning, i.e.)
can allow them in their own buffers using buffer-local settings of the
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Second, I think this compression should not be done on non-Posix
systems where gzip is not available.
And third, I think that we should not compress as part of tarring the
distribution.
Maybe add an
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(along the lines of it's designed to be
lightweight and not excessively customizable).
I think the basic entry points (and their aliases) at least should get
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, either.
That's somewhat of a nuisance, since TeX users would probably like to
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be defined in the course
of those ratios: that makes it possible to use rational operations for
converting units between TeX and PostScript (for example).
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It's too long to enter already. It would be an idea to offer all TeX
dimensions with t prefixed:
...
Seems like this scheme is not feasible, either.
I does seem interesting, and would be much more practical
or
to educate. Of course, K should be available as a unit of its own,
but I see no harm by degK being an alias.
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anything, I got this error message: Invalid
coding system: utf-8.
I changed the code to this: (defvar savehist-coding-system nil
With these simple changes, the library seems to work fine in Emacs
20. Thanks for it.
Uh, Emacs 20? Why would one need to be compatible with that?
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smaller typographic point 1/72.27 in.
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out whether all other things are equal, and
which is the backward-compatible solution, if one considers it to
make sense to talk about backward-compatible for what _is_ supposed
to be a proper part of Emacs 22.
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If it is distributed as rcirc.el widely elsewhere, it might be
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think the
normally used abbreviation for pint should also be used. Sure, TeX
users would prefer to have pt and bp, but I don't think at the price
of making the Imperial system inconsistent.
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since stock Windows systems don't have gzip.
Anybody want to try his hand at a CCL-Program for gunzipping?
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is very nice.)
It sounds good to me. Would you like to write the patch?
Hmm, what about making Emacs install the tutorials compressed by
default?
I don't see the point in doing that when the info manuals remain
uncompressed at the same time.
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The horns can be viewed as either E or M depending on the angle,
and they look more horn-like from the M aspect.
Maybe one should use _two_ horns, identical but with different angles
so that EM is more or less spelled, and have them in a relative
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Why? A single period can signify a part of an abbreviation, like in
Richard M. Stallman, but I can't see three periods doing the same.
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object to mouse tips
occuring _below_ mouse point. It would render menu tooltips quite
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. It specifies a command to run if
`emacsclient' fails to contact Emacs. For example, the following
setting for the EDITOR environment variable will always give you an
editor, even if no Emacs server is running:
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'), and voilĂ !
With the new code, you wou have to modify image-load-path too.
I don't think that is so difficult.
Maybe image-load-path could also allow symbols. Then one could make
its last element the symbol `load-path', and thus it would be able to
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Emacs.app is fine. Web page and announcement will carry the
information for which operating systems Emacs.app is known to work in
their main text.
There are also things like View.app and similar, and people tend to
know what this implies, more or less.
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Juanma Barranquero [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
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Actually, I get might be undefined at run time in some similar
eval-when-compile wrapped situations.
Maybe with some unusual combination of circumstances.
And having different semantics
during
and:
1. possibly suggest a speedup in the functions as they are now
or
2. implement some of them as a primitive in C
Have you taken a look at define-ccl-program? You could probably do
quite a bit of processing with that.
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, when the data became invalid.
I find that significantly lowering gc-cons-threshold helps a lot in
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to change
dramatically.
That does beg the question as to why unicode-2 hasn't already been
merged into HEAD given that, using timescales for Emacs 22, Emacs 23
won't be released until about 2010.
So that Emacs 22 will not get released only in 2010.
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more reason to delay?
One should give out warnings suitably in advance to all serious
hackers so that they don't suffer a heart attack.
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as the process is not considered dead from
Emacs' point of view. That there is nobody to actually look at the
eof can't be considered a problem in asynchronous operations: the
consuming process can close down without waiting for an explicit eof.
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IMHO a very felicitous design...
Klaus
The E, the most prominent feature, is both out of character as well as
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word-at-point woman-topic-all-completions)
word-at-point)
(when (and word-at-point
(test-completion word-at-point woman-topic-all-completions))
word-at-point)
It's more verbose, but brings across the purpose somewhat better.
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:
(version= 22 22.0.50.37) = t
That would mean
(version= 22 22.0.50.37) = t
(version= 22 22.1.50.37) = t
(version= 22.0.50.37 22.0.50.37) = nil
Not exactly endearing to the average mathematician or logician...
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to the topic at point without
attempting any course of action that requires an advance course in
divination.
There'd be quite a sensational market for that, you know.
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center the top line above the second line)
I have attached an 16x16 image using this idea. It is quite hard to
make it readable.
Personally I am not very fond of it
Me neither. Not because of your artwork, but because I find the
design uninspiring, to say the least.
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Frank Schmitt [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
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[GNU head]
Maybe one should put a pen into the gnu's mouth. But that is more
reminiscent of word processing rather than editing.
I'd rather go the line of what makes Emacs a special editor. Something
like
releasing 22.1 for Unix-type systems, but I would tend not to release
Windows binaries that are deficient. Even if that means that such
binaries will only appear with 22.2 or so.
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What am I missing in my testing?
Whether Emacs' idea of the current directory agrees with that of the
shell. This is important, for example, for path completion. You can
check by using C-x C-f and see whether Emacs offers the now current
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It is a new feature fixing a bug.
Of course I'd like to include it now, but I won't complain if the
decision goes to shelving it for the moment being.
In my opinion it is one thing worth the hassle of ironing out, though
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to act partly as a program, at least if the microkernel does the
scheduling.
It's not exactly like any of this should be news to you.
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Richard M. Stallman [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Linux is not really a program in the usual sense.
It is a program, in the usual sense of the word.
You must have some unusual sense
distinction. Or On those window systems which It might be a
bit much to demand that non-native speakers catch the difference in
meaning conveyed by the absence of the comma.
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if you do
emacs -nw ?
It sounds like something that has potential for problems, certainly
enough to push it till after release.
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'emacs) habitually in without thinking anything about it.
I really think that this is one change that we are better off without.
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I really think that this is one change that we are better off without.
I didn't propose it, so I'm hardly going to enter a fight for it. I
just happen to think is not only not as outrageous
Robert J. Chassell [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
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XEmacs, after all, does meet the criteria of free software.
Actually and unfortunately, we do not know whether it does.
Certainly, the main authors intend that. But they have not
collected the legal
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'xemacs) means here is an exception for the
sake of XEmacs.
We don't have to make exceptions for the sake of Emacs. We are the
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David Kastrup [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Another thing worth mentioning is that in the presence of images,
font locking with different font sizes, proportional fonts and
similar, the wrapped column should certainly be the visual column
instead
settings of 'min and 'current (with the obvious implications), another
would be to use window-local display properties for letting spaces
display as newlines (and newlines as spaces) when some window has a
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of that this is the w32 way and to integrate in
the w32 environment as first class citizens this must be accepted.
It is not a goal for Emacs to be a first class w32 citizen. The goal
for Emacs on Windows is to be as good an Emacs as elsewhere.
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Lennart Borgman [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
David Kastrup wrote:
There are several reasons I think. One reason is that installing new
programs should not change system overall behaviour.
Then why install them in the first place?
I am sorry but this does not make sense.
Why bother
see how this would be able to disambiguate between those
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Date: Sat, 16 Jul 2005 08:14:10 +0200
Cc: Emacs Devel emacs-devel@gnu.org, Jason Rumney [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Look, it is getting annoying. You have not _once_ in this whole
thread clearly spelled out _what_ your
if it does not work.
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Lennart Borgman [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
David Kastrup wrote:
Lennart Borgman [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Yes, nobody has done it yet and I believe there is no one working on
it actively at the moment. I raised the issue to see if someone could
do it.
I have suggested that there might
for misery, and stumbling
through foreign code is misery, anyway.
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purpose of my message. Please write
about the problem I took up (no emacsclient/server on w32) and
possible solutions.
The solution is that somebody write a working emacsclient/server.
Obviously, this someone is to be looked for among people actually
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I personally find it quite disturbing that the policies do not allow
for fetching for example paper size from within Emacs.
Nonsense. If they are implemented as a general feature that would,
for example, consult LC_PAPER
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versions has to be done and it would be
inconvenient to copy the source tree for each configuration.
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it loses the undo history, but I think
that has always been the case.
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that.
(I do remember reading in the manual though that the former is
preferable, because it is portable across OSes, including VMS..)
The latter, with file-name-as-directory, should also do the trick on
VMS unless I am mistaken.
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are going to maintain the
stuff in CVS yourself, you might want others to do the initial
check-in so that it lands in the proper place.
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the _standard_ initialization
functions in an Emacs used for dumping?
That way, one would not need to have to adapt custom definitions that
are going to be dumped.
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Unfortunately, current-column does not take images into account.
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be made to deal with that
currently, so this is definitely not stuff we should be considering
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-name-as-directory ~/tmp)
(file-name-nondirectory ~/tmp/~))
I am afraid that the former version is _so_ ingrained into Elisp code
that we should add advice into DOC strings and Elisp manual.
_If_ the latter is sure to work under all circumstances.
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only for commands.
Sounds more like C-h S to me.
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doing in the first place. Why not
just let those characters self-insert? They don't have any other
meaning in vi. What use is it to have them beep?
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is _not_ regexp
syntax. Now
regex = 4H^.*
(notice the literal newline) would be retro-chic.
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to a small value like 4000 increase the
likelihood of the crash? It's one of the things I try on sporadic
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right now seems
incompatible with both stable (as it would need to get changed
afterwards, anyway) and relatively bug-free.
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What would you need this for?
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Lennart Borgman [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
David Kastrup wrote:
Is it possible to tell Emacs not to interpret escape character in a
certain string? If I have something like this:
(setq str some\thing\escaped)
Can this be changed without changing the literal so that Emacs takes
exactly what
. That's the whole point of the above
construct: getting a string _verbatim_ from the environment without
any interpretation of quotes or backslashes or similar. The above has
not been written as
emacs --eval (do-something-with \$FILENAME\)
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if the address change did not count as a version
change. After all, it occurs outside of the actual terms and
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the recent batch of address changes also affected a lot of COPYING
files. Those now start with
GNU GENERAL PUBLIC LICENSE
Version 2, June 1991
[...]
While the Free
definitions where it is a
quoted function.
Maybe this is too complicated.
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name has a defcustom.
But then it should go to the customize dialog for the real
variable. Everything else would be too confusing in the long run,
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the kernels and the larger systems.
Well, looks like with Linux, the communication is just with the
kernel, but with MacOSX/Darwin, the communication is with a command
line utility.
Sometimes accuracy is an annoying goal.
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meme? Perhaps related
to genus Microtus...?
Maybe
URL:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Votes_for_deletion/Microsoft_vole
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problem as it is a viper problem, and
viper has explicitly documented and addressed this problem.
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with a swedish (or other national)
keyboard?
It is perfectly feasible to use Ctrl-\ on a German keyboard.
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by this code? Does this code do anything if the mode is not
explicitly enabled?
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and gratitude about how often Luc comes
out with a good analysis and working suggestions and patches for
faulty code or documentation that was not written by himself.
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Lute Kamstra [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
David Kastrup [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
The systems that are affected by this change are those whose
`system-type' is equal to darwin (and that have the pmset program
available). What changes for the users of those systems is that
they will be able
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