Re: compress files patch for mac/make-package

2005-10-20 Thread Eli Zaretskii
From: Romain Francoise [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org Date: Wed, 19 Oct 2005 22:16:01 +0200 Eli Zaretskii [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: First, there are some .el files that don't have a corresponding .elc file; I think such .el file should not be compressed, since then Emacs

Re: compress files patch for mac/make-package

2005-10-20 Thread Eli Zaretskii
Cc: Eli Zaretskii [EMAIL PROTECTED], emacs-devel@gnu.org From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Kim F. Storm) Date: Wed, 19 Oct 2005 23:37:06 +0200 How can you uncompress the tarball without gunzip ? With DJTARNT (which can only handle .tar.gz files, not compressed .gz files in general

Re: compress files patch for mac/make-package

2005-10-20 Thread Eli Zaretskii
Cc: Romain Francoise [EMAIL PROTECTED], emacs-devel@gnu.org From: David Kastrup [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed, 19 Oct 2005 22:13:19 +0200 Maybe add an make install-gzip target? That'd be fine, I think. ___ Emacs-devel mailing list

Re: File modes facilities.

2005-10-20 Thread Eli Zaretskii
From: Michael Cadilhac [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thu, 20 Oct 2005 00:44:42 +0200 Cc: Stefan Monnier [EMAIL PROTECTED], emacs-devel@gnu.org I don't know any way to change the modes of a file, or even of the current file, within emacs. C-h f set-file-modes RET

Re: Tool-bar buttons unresponsive with tooltips on

2005-10-20 Thread Eli Zaretskii
From: Chong Yidong [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed, 19 Oct 2005 18:49:03 -0400 This patch fixes the bug. However, it's pure hackery since I'm not familiar with the code at all. Can someone tell me if it makes sense to do this? I don't have the answer to your question, but the snippet you

Re: compress files patch for mac/make-package

2005-10-20 Thread Eli Zaretskii
From: Romain Francoise [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thu, 20 Oct 2005 09:20:06 +0200 Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org The long term plan is to get rid of the gzip dependency for good and use zlib to provide decompression primitives directly in Emacs. Then let's postpone compression of .el files until

Re: pxref

2005-10-20 Thread Eli Zaretskii
From: Nick Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thu, 20 Oct 2005 09:38:27 +1300 pxref seems to put in a full stop in the generated info page, when the reference includes the manual name: (@pxref{Registers,,, gdb, The GNU debugger}) gives: (see Registers(gdb).) which seems wrong since

Re: mh-e/mh-loaddefs.el removed from CVS

2005-10-20 Thread Eli Zaretskii
From: Jason Rumney [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2005 22:23:04 +0100 Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org Bill Wohler [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The lisp/Makefile.in has been changed to regenerate mh-e/mh-loaddefs.el, but the corresponding lisp/makefile.w32-in remain unchanged. Is that ok?

GCC warning in minibuf.c

2005-10-20 Thread Eli Zaretskii
With today's CVS, GCC 3.4.2 issues the following warning: minibuf.c: In function `Fminibuffer_completion_help': minibuf.c:2578: warning: passing arg 2 of `internal_with_output_to_temp_buffer' from incompatible pointer type This happens because internal_with_output_to_temp_buffer is declared

Re: compress files patch for mac/make-package

2005-10-20 Thread Eli Zaretskii
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Kim F. Storm) Date: Thu, 20 Oct 2005 11:23:33 +0200 Cc: Lennart Borgman [EMAIL PROTECTED], emacs-devel@gnu.org I DEFINITELY think this is a non-issue which can EASILY wait until AFTER the release Seconded. There's no reason to risk unneeded breakage due to this

Re: pxref

2005-10-20 Thread Eli Zaretskii
From: Juri Linkov [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED], bug-texinfo@gnu.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org Date: Thu, 20 Oct 2005 14:16:22 +0300 makeinfo _always_ produces either a :: or a . at the end of the @pxref cross-reference, before the closing paren, because those are the rules of the

Re: File modes facilities.

2005-10-20 Thread Eli Zaretskii
Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org From: Michael Cadilhac [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thu, 20 Oct 2005 12:41:21 +0200 If we want dired-do-chmod to work on systems without an external chmod command, we can easily modify dired-do-chmod to use set-file-modes. Yep, please do, but please do it with

Re: ATSUI support on Carbon Emacs

2005-10-20 Thread Eli Zaretskii
Date: Sat, 01 Oct 2005 20:28:45 +0900 From: YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu [EMAIL PROTECTED] At the request of the maintainer, I installed ATSUI support on Carbon Emacs to the trunk. It does not change anything unless -DUSE_ATSUI is specified at compile time. Thank you for your work, but I think this

Re: GCC warning in minibuf.c

2005-10-20 Thread Eli Zaretskii
From: Andreas Schwab [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org Date: Thu, 20 Oct 2005 15:07:47 +0200 I think this is a bogus warning, I don't agree. Fdisplay_completion_list will be called with only a single parameter and will receive garbage in the second one. A sure way to make

Re: image size limit?

2005-10-19 Thread Eli Zaretskii
From: Chong Yidong [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2005 17:56:39 -0400 Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org But I don't think this limit should be absolute. I think it should be specified as a multiple of the frame height and width, and it should be given as a floating point number. I'd

Re: compress files patch for mac/make-package

2005-10-19 Thread Eli Zaretskii
From: Romain Francoise [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tue, 18 Oct 2005 08:00:35 +0200 The Emacs CVS packages in Debian use compressed .el files since September 8th and apart from the aforementioned autoload bugs, no problem has arisen. IMHO, Sep 8 till today is a ridiculously short period, to

Re: compress files patch for mac/make-package

2005-10-19 Thread Eli Zaretskii
From: Romain Francoise [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed, 19 Oct 2005 09:16:25 +0200 Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org Richard M. Stallman [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Would you like to change `make install' to compress the .el files? Ok, I'll do that in a few days' time in case someone objects to the

Re: TUTORIAL.gz

2005-10-17 Thread Eli Zaretskii
From: David Reitter [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sun, 16 Oct 2005 15:52:57 +0100 Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org someone might want to change the Makefile to gzip the appropriate files on non-Windows machines. FWIW, I find no compelling reason to do that. TUTORIAL.* files are relatively small (circa

Re: TUTORIAL.gz

2005-10-15 Thread Eli Zaretskii
Date: Fri, 14 Oct 2005 13:25:57 +0200 From: LENNART BORGMAN [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], emacs-devel@gnu.org Does not compression create some difficulties for w32 users? They need gzip to be installed. So yes, it does add a difficulty, since stock Windows

Re: bug with file name completing

2005-10-15 Thread Eli Zaretskii
From: Richard M. Stallman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sun, 09 Oct 2005 14:16:40 -0400 Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org BTW, there is CVS/ in completion-ignored-extensions by default, but no RCS/ and ,v. Should these extensions be added too? I am not sure why we wanted to ignore the CVS

Re: color-grey-p and black?

2005-09-28 Thread Eli Zaretskii
From: Richard M. Stallman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed, 28 Sep 2005 13:10:46 -0400 Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org if (defined_color (f, color_name, color, 0)) ! gray_p = (/* Any color sufficiently close to black counts as grey. */ ! (color.red 5000 color.green 5000

Re: autogen.sh question

2005-09-25 Thread Eli Zaretskii
From: Thien-Thi Nguyen [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 25 Sep 2005 17:36:45 -0400 Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org the top-level ChangeLog gives a hint about the practice: modify configure.in, regenerate configure, and check in both files. Not only configure needs to be regenerated; src/config.in is

Re: ispell.el doesn't work any more

2005-09-24 Thread Eli Zaretskii
Date: Tue, 20 Sep 2005 22:13:40 +0300 From: Eli Zaretskii [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED], emacs-devel@gnu.org From: Juri Linkov [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED], emacs-devel@gnu.org Date: Tue, 20 Sep 2005 08:07:09 +0300 So how about the following patch, which fixes

Re: mac/INSTALL - Small fix

2005-09-24 Thread Eli Zaretskii
From: Cheng Gao [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Fri, 23 Sep 2005 15:41:50 +0800 Line 209 of mac/INSTALL says: , | Emacs should build and run on a PowerMac running Mac OS 8.6 - 10.3. ` With Tiger out of cage, it should be changed to , | Emacs should build and run on a PowerMac

Re: Outdated instruction in mac/README

2005-09-24 Thread Eli Zaretskii
From: Cheng Gao [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Fri, 23 Sep 2005 15:19:54 +0800 In mac/README, line 39-41: Binary distributions will be available in ftp://ftp.gnu.org/gnu/mac/emacs/ But the link is wrong, and I trust there is no official Macos(x) build in gnu.org ftp. So maybe these

Re: ispell.el doesn't work any more

2005-09-20 Thread Eli Zaretskii
From: Juri Linkov [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED], emacs-devel@gnu.org Date: Tue, 20 Sep 2005 08:07:09 +0300 So how about the following patch, which fixes the case-fold issue, improves the doc string, and extends the valid syntax for version numbers? Your patch works for

Re: ispell.el doesn't work any more

2005-09-20 Thread Eli Zaretskii
Date: Tue, 20 Sep 2005 09:32:11 -0500 (CDT) From: Luc Teirlinck [EMAIL PROTECTED] CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], emacs-devel@gnu.org Juri Linkov wrote: But what to do for aspell version formats not supported even with your patch? In particular, after applying Eli's

Re: ispell.el doesn't work any more

2005-09-20 Thread Eli Zaretskii
Date: Tue, 20 Sep 2005 15:56:46 -0500 (CDT) From: Luc Teirlinck [EMAIL PROTECTED] CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], emacs-devel@gnu.org Eli Zaretskii wrote: What version is that (what is the precise version string it reports), and of which speller? [bash3.00.0 ~ 3 2

Re: CVS HEAD currently broken on OSX

2005-09-17 Thread Eli Zaretskii
Date: Sat, 17 Sep 2005 09:43:59 +0900 From: YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org, Randal L. Schwartz merlyn@stonehenge.com On Fri, 16 Sep 2005 23:47:23 +0300, Eli Zaretskii [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Yes, please do try that. I'd like to know whether the non

Re: CVS HEAD currently broken on OSX

2005-09-17 Thread Eli Zaretskii
From: merlyn@stonehenge.com (Randal L. Schwartz) Date: 16 Sep 2005 14:12:27 -0700 Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org Eli == Eli Zaretskii [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Eli Thanks. Please see if the patch below causes bootstrap to work again Eli for you. After make clean; ./configure --prefix=/opt

Re: CVS HEAD currently broken on OSX

2005-09-17 Thread Eli Zaretskii
From: merlyn@stonehenge.com (Randal L. Schwartz) Date: 16 Sep 2005 14:58:11 -0700 Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org Eli == Eli Zaretskii [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: And keep in mind that I could also want to build the non-carbon X11 version on OSX as well. I haven't tried that recently. Maybe I

Re: ispell.el doesn't work any more

2005-09-17 Thread Eli Zaretskii
From: Juri Linkov [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2005 01:01:48 +0300 Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED], emacs-devel@gnu.org That approach seems good to me. It will work with aspell 0.50 as well as it would have worked with ispell. Does anyone see a problem with that patch? This patch

Re: ispell.el doesn't work any more

2005-09-17 Thread Eli Zaretskii
From: Juri Linkov [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2005 01:01:48 +0300 Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED], emacs-devel@gnu.org That approach seems good to me. It will work with aspell 0.50 as well as it would have worked with ispell. Does anyone see a problem with that patch? This patch

Re: ispell.el doesn't work any more

2005-09-17 Thread Eli Zaretskii
From: Magnus Henoch [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2005 00:29:04 +0200 Eli Zaretskii [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I don't know why older Aspell's are no good for us. Magnus, can you please comment on that? The main cause is that aspell = 0.60 consistently supports UTF-8, which

Re: CVS HEAD currently broken on OSX

2005-09-17 Thread Eli Zaretskii
Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org From: merlyn@stonehenge.com (Randal L. Schwartz) Date: 17 Sep 2005 05:34:30 -0700 Eli == Eli Zaretskii [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Eli Please also make sure that tmm-menu works in both --without-x Eli and --with-x builds, and shows the keyboard bindings for Eli

Re: CVS HEAD currently broken on OSX

2005-09-16 Thread Eli Zaretskii
From: merlyn@stonehenge.com (Randal L. Schwartz) Date: 15 Sep 2005 12:39:11 -0700 Is someone working on this? Here's the tail of make clean bootstrap: Thanks. However, this information is insufficient to fix the bug without breaking other systems, and I don't have access to OSX to

Re: CVS HEAD currently broken on OSX

2005-09-16 Thread Eli Zaretskii
Cc: Eli Zaretskii [EMAIL PROTECTED], emacs-devel@gnu.org, Randal L. Schwartz merlyn@stonehenge.com From: Steven Tamm [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2005 08:40:43 -0700 Reverting this change fixes the build. Just remove xmenu.o from the Makefile and keep going. Why

Re: CVS HEAD currently broken on OSX

2005-09-16 Thread Eli Zaretskii
Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org From: merlyn@stonehenge.com (Randal L. Schwartz) Date: 16 Sep 2005 07:31:58 -0700 $ ./configure --prefix=/opt/emacs --without-x [after much probing and printing... ] Configured for `powerpc-apple-darwin8.2.0'. Where should the build process find the source

Re: CVS HEAD currently broken on OSX

2005-09-16 Thread Eli Zaretskii
Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2005 13:21:22 +0100 From: Jason Rumney [EMAIL PROTECTED] CC: Randal L. Schwartz merlyn@stonehenge.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org Perhaps this change has caused xmenu.c to be compiled when it shouldn't be. 2005-09-15 Richard M. Stallman [EMAIL PROTECTED] *

Re: CVS HEAD currently broken on OSX

2005-09-16 Thread Eli Zaretskii
Cc: Steven Tamm [EMAIL PROTECTED], Jason Rumney [EMAIL PROTECTED], Eli Zaretskii [EMAIL PROTECTED], emacs-devel@gnu.org From: merlyn@stonehenge.com (Randal L. Schwartz) Date: 16 Sep 2005 09:10:26 -0700 Stefan == Stefan Monnier [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Stefan Otherwise calling

Re: CVS HEAD currently broken on OSX

2005-09-16 Thread Eli Zaretskii
Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org From: merlyn@stonehenge.com (Randal L. Schwartz) Date: 16 Sep 2005 09:28:00 -0700 Eli == Eli Zaretskii [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Eli One more question: is HAVE_CARBON defined (probably in src/config.h) Eli in that build? Yes, it is. From src/config.h

Re: Shall we use etc/images more?

2005-09-13 Thread Eli Zaretskii
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Kim F. Storm) Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2005 11:23:21 +0200 Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED], emacs-devel@gnu.org Shortening the file names makes it easier to be 8.3 compliant, and is essential in the images above. Does emacs support images on any of the 8.3 limited systems? It

Re: ispell.el doesn't work any more

2005-09-12 Thread Eli Zaretskii
From: Stefan Monnier [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Mon, 12 Sep 2005 12:22:54 -0400 Now whenever I try to run flyspell-mode (which I use pretty much everywhere), I get the following backtrace: Indeed, my aspell is older than 0.60, but it worked just fine until now. It's not like Fedora Core 2

Re: Release timelines and Unicode2 branch

2005-09-12 Thread Eli Zaretskii
From: Stefan Monnier [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Mon, 12 Sep 2005 17:37:13 -0400 Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org 1) When is the best estimate of when 22.1 will come out? Not before 2006. I hope it can be done faster than that! I hope so as well, but my best estimate is still not before 2006.

Re: Options menu is broken on CVS

2005-09-11 Thread Eli Zaretskii
From: Richard M. Stallman [EMAIL PROTECTED] CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], emacs-devel@gnu.org Date: Sun, 11 Sep 2005 02:54:00 -0400 I see no reason to duplicate this code. If x-popup-menu can operate at run time, for this limited purpose, without a

Re: Options menu is broken on CVS

2005-09-11 Thread Eli Zaretskii
From: Richard M. Stallman [EMAIL PROTECTED] CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], emacs-devel@gnu.org Date: Sun, 11 Sep 2005 02:54:10 -0400 (Would you want to find the URLs for me?) Given the date and the Subject, it should be very easy to do that, using the mail-archive Search command.

Re: Options menu is broken on CVS

2005-09-10 Thread Eli Zaretskii
From: Richard M. Stallman [EMAIL PROTECTED] CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], emacs-devel@gnu.org Date: Sat, 10 Sep 2005 04:14:23 -0400 In ChangeLog it can be useful to mention the date and sender of the bug report. That would be brief, but enough to find

Re: Options menu is broken on CVS

2005-09-10 Thread Eli Zaretskii
From: Nick Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sat, 10 Sep 2005 11:07:25 +1200 Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED], emacs-devel@gnu.org xmenu.c compiles without X libraries (--without-x doesn't link to them) What you say is not detailed enough, because xmenu.c has 2 different parts (one with USE_X_TOOLKIT,

Re: Options menu is broken on CVS

2005-09-10 Thread Eli Zaretskii
Date: Sat, 10 Sep 2005 09:08:40 +0900 From: YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], emacs-devel@gnu.org Besides menu-updating-frame, tmm.el uses x-popup-menu (defined in xmenu.c) in order to obtain keyboard equivalents. (condition-case

Re: Options menu is broken on CVS

2005-09-10 Thread Eli Zaretskii
Date: Sat, 10 Sep 2005 12:28:09 +0300 From: Eli Zaretskii [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED], emacs-devel@gnu.org However you have missed some references to menu-updating-frame. For example F10-f doesn't work beacuse of: (put 'dired 'menu-enable '(not (window-minibuffer

Re: Options menu is broken on CVS

2005-09-09 Thread Eli Zaretskii
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], emacs-devel@gnu.org From: Stefan Monnier [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thu, 08 Sep 2005 17:02:05 -0400 Let's take it as a reminder that when we commit a fix, we should make sure we describe the bug it fixes, either in

Re: Options menu is broken on CVS

2005-09-09 Thread Eli Zaretskii
Date: Thu, 08 Sep 2005 22:33:45 +0300 From: Eli Zaretskii [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED], emacs-devel@gnu.org That change was made for a reason as well: some problem on Carbon. We need to understand that problem, to be sure your change will not reintroduce it. I hope

Re: Options menu is broken on CVS

2005-09-09 Thread Eli Zaretskii
Date: Fri, 09 Sep 2005 14:50:55 +0300 From: Eli Zaretskii [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED], emacs-devel@gnu.org My interim conclusion is that the changes back in 2004 were not the one that caused the current problem. I will dig some more to understand what is the real cause

Re: Options menu is broken on CVS

2005-09-09 Thread Eli Zaretskii
From: Nick Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sat, 10 Sep 2005 01:12:41 +1200 Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED], emacs-devel@gnu.org I think the non-X build on Unix and GNU systems doesn't define HAVE_MENUS for a reason: without the proper X11 headers and libraries, xmenu.c simply will not compile.

Re: Options menu is broken on CVS

2005-09-09 Thread Eli Zaretskii
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], emacs-devel@gnu.org From: David Kastrup [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Fri, 09 Sep 2005 17:47:35 +0200 I installed a change that avoids referencing that variable on non-multiframe displays. Ismail, please check that the new version works for you.

Re: Options menu is broken on CVS

2005-09-09 Thread Eli Zaretskii
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], emacs-devel@gnu.org From: Stefan Monnier [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Fri, 09 Sep 2005 14:12:04 -0400 The result of all this was that xmenu.o was being linked in both in the X and in the non-X branches, and in both cases it was conditioned on

Re: Options menu is broken on CVS

2005-09-08 Thread Eli Zaretskii
From: Nick Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thu, 8 Sep 2005 16:24:50 +1200 Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED], emacs-devel@gnu.org I think this is the right fix. Please describe the reasons why you think this is the right fix. menu-updating-buffers is defined in syms_of_xmenu (). Currently

Re: Options menu is broken on CVS

2005-09-07 Thread Eli Zaretskii
From: =?utf-8?q?=C4=B0smail_D=C3=B6nmez?= [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed, 7 Sep 2005 17:58:09 +0300 I don't remember the details (you will probably find them in emacs-devel or emacs-pretest-bug archives for that period of time), but there was some build failure, I think on MacOS, which

Re: Options menu is broken on CVS

2005-09-07 Thread Eli Zaretskii
From: Richard M. Stallman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed, 07 Sep 2005 22:41:46 -0400 Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED], emacs-devel@gnu.org Perhaps the best way to find out what the bug was is to revert the change; then someone will see that bug again, and someone can write a new fix for it. No, this is

Re: Options menu is broken on CVS

2005-09-07 Thread Eli Zaretskii
From: Nick Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thu, 8 Sep 2005 10:04:25 +1200 Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED], emacs-devel@gnu.org Please don't take out this change without understanding what it was fixing in the first place. I think this is the right fix. Please describe the reasons why you

Re: Buffer menu fix

2005-09-06 Thread Eli Zaretskii
From: Richard M. Stallman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tue, 06 Sep 2005 07:22:59 -0400 Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED], emacs-devel@gnu.org I don't think it is worth spending the time to have a long discussion about whether to use a macro to define these commands, whether they should be lambdas or have

Re: Options menu is broken on CVS

2005-09-06 Thread Eli Zaretskii
From: Nick Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed, 7 Sep 2005 11:01:27 +1200 Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org It seems to be due to this change: 2004-03-13 Eli Zaretskii [EMAIL PROTECTED] * emacs.c (main): Call syms_of_xmenu only if HAVE_MENUS is defined. I guess it hasn't been noticed

Re: Buffer menu fix

2005-09-05 Thread Eli Zaretskii
Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org From: Chong Yidong [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Mon, 05 Sep 2005 18:18:18 -0400 (defun Buffer-menu-make-sort-button (column ...) ... (propertize ... 'keymap (let ((map (make-sparse-keymap)) (fun `(lambda ()

Re: Beginingless paragraphs

2005-08-31 Thread Eli Zaretskii
From: Richard M. Stallman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2005 10:36:53 -0400 Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org Right now the manual effectively takes for granted that users know what a paragraph is. Is this a problem? IMHO, we only need to define what's a paragraph if its Emacs definitions

Re: lisp/makefile.in edit needed for --no-cygwin build

2005-08-28 Thread Eli Zaretskii
From: David Abrahams [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sun, 28 Aug 2005 04:18:57 -0400 Trying to rebuild NTEmacs today using MinGW I found that I needed to replace: $(EMACS) $(EMACSOPT) -l autoload --eval '(setq generated-autoload-file $(lisp)/loaddefs.el)' -f batch-update-autoloads $$wins

Re: Customizing `blink-matching-paren-distance'

2005-08-27 Thread Eli Zaretskii
From: Richard M. Stallman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Fri, 26 Aug 2005 23:41:35 -0400 Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org (defcustom blink-matching-paren-distance (* 25 1024) *If non-nil, is maximum distance to search for matching open-paren. If nil, search stops at the begin of the

Re: custom-save-all leaves custom-file buffer

2005-08-27 Thread Eli Zaretskii
From: David Reitter [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sat, 27 Aug 2005 11:25:47 +0100 On 27 Aug 2005, at 04:41, Richard M. Stallman wrote: I wrote a cleaner patch to do a job like this, but I have not had time to test it, so I have not installed it. Can you test it? OK, it works so far, but

Re: What's This? in Describe submenu

2005-08-25 Thread Eli Zaretskii
Cc: Luc Teirlinck [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], emacs-devel@gnu.org From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Kim F. Storm) Date: Thu, 25 Aug 2005 10:54:00 +0200 Suppose you have a pop-up in a Windoze application similar to the M-x customize-face interface in Emacs. Now, if a Windoze

Re: What's This? in Describe submenu

2005-08-23 Thread Eli Zaretskii
Date: Mon, 22 Aug 2005 23:23:35 -0500 (CDT) From: Luc Teirlinck [EMAIL PROTECTED] CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED], emacs-devel@gnu.org Eli Zaretskii wrote: Cynicism aside, what you say is a general complaint about our doc strings, not specific to the menu item we are discussing. What I am

Re: What's This? in Describe submenu

2005-08-23 Thread Eli Zaretskii
From: Drew Adams [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tue, 23 Aug 2005 07:08:59 -0700 If someone is looking for help on a key or a menu item, he will have no problem recognizing Describe Key or Menu Item What about someone who is looking for help on a click on the toolbar or on mode line or on the

Re: What's This? in Describe submenu

2005-08-23 Thread Eli Zaretskii
Date: Mon, 22 Aug 2005 23:56:06 -0500 (CDT) From: Luc Teirlinck [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED], emacs-devel@gnu.org If you click mouse-1 on the minibuffer or fringe, the KDE user (and Lennart claimed the Microsoft user too) would expect a tooltip telling what the minibuffer/echo

Re: What's This? in Describe submenu

2005-08-23 Thread Eli Zaretskii
Date: Mon, 22 Aug 2005 23:40:20 -0500 (CDT) From: Luc Teirlinck [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED], emacs-devel@gnu.org I can only try out the KDE version and that one feels definitely completely different from describe-key. Can you give a couple of examples, please? While I can not

Re: What's This? in Describe submenu

2005-08-23 Thread Eli Zaretskii
From: Jason Rumney [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tue, 23 Aug 2005 21:56:01 +0100 Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED], Luc Teirlinck [EMAIL PROTECTED], emacs-devel@gnu.org What IE example? I missed it. If by IE you mean Internet Explorer, then the version I have does not have a What's This? menu item.

Re: What's This? in Describe submenu

2005-08-23 Thread Eli Zaretskii
Date: Tue, 23 Aug 2005 17:02:25 -0500 (CDT) From: Luc Teirlinck [EMAIL PROTECTED] CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED], emacs-devel@gnu.org Click this to delete all cookies from your machine. If the only useful thing that button does is delete all cookies from your machine, then your example does

Re: What's This? in Describe submenu

2005-08-22 Thread Eli Zaretskii
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Kim F. Storm) Date: Mon, 22 Aug 2005 09:58:45 +0200 Cc: martin rudalics [EMAIL PROTECTED], emacs-devel@gnu.org In its current form, it does IN NO WAY resemble what a Windoze user would expect from the What's this function. I disagree. I think it comes reasonably

Re: What's This? in Describe submenu

2005-08-22 Thread Eli Zaretskii
Date: Mon, 22 Aug 2005 19:08:01 -0500 (CDT) From: Luc Teirlinck [EMAIL PROTECTED] CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], emacs-devel@gnu.org First of all, as already pointed out by me and by Stefan, if a user familiar with What's this clicks on the minibuffer, he expects an explanation

Re: What's This? in Describe submenu

2005-08-22 Thread Eli Zaretskii
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Kim F. Storm), [EMAIL PROTECTED], emacs-devel@gnu.org From: Stefan Monnier [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Mon, 22 Aug 2005 16:15:00 -0400 So, to me it sounds like we do something very similar to what you described, with 2 notable exceptions: the change in mouse pointer

Re: What's This? in Describe submenu

2005-08-21 Thread Eli Zaretskii
Date: Sun, 21 Aug 2005 12:59:33 -0500 (CDT) From: Luc Teirlinck [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] From my previous reply: My first choice would be to just delete What's this. But, alternately one could have one menu item called: What's This?

Re: What's This? in Describe submenu

2005-08-21 Thread Eli Zaretskii
Date: Sun, 21 Aug 2005 16:38:21 -0500 (CDT) From: Luc Teirlinck [EMAIL PROTECTED] CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] They do the same thing, that is exactly what is confusing. I don't see why, really. What is this this that is referred to in What's this?? See the

Re: grep-use-null-device

2005-08-20 Thread Eli Zaretskii
From: Richard M. Stallman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed, 17 Aug 2005 02:25:39 -0400 Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org Thanks for posting the URL, though it seems that the web interface at lists.gnu.org eats multiple spaces. Here is the Gmane URL for the original post from Kevin Rodgers

Re: is there a cygwin maintainer for gnu emacs?

2005-08-19 Thread Eli Zaretskii
From: emacs user [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thu, 18 Aug 2005 02:45:21 -0400 Cc: cygwin@cygwin.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org some more diagnostics of the GC problem, with the help of some advice from eliz. does this help? It's a beginning. Thanks. Breakpoint 1, abort () at emacs.c:461 461

Re: stackdump on cygwin (was: is there a cygwin maintainer for gnu emacs?)

2005-08-16 Thread Eli Zaretskii
From: emacs user [EMAIL PROTECTED] Bcc: Date: Tue, 16 Aug 2005 04:47:39 -0400 Cc: cygwin@cygwin.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], emacs-devel@gnu.org here is a sample emacs.exe.stackdump file I get when emacs crashes. in the absence of a detailed gdb GC debugging which I dont

Re: Default position of the vertical scroll bar w/ GTK toolkit

2005-08-15 Thread Eli Zaretskii
From: Richard M. Stallman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Mon, 15 Aug 2005 14:44:26 -0400 Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org On Windows (and, as far as I know, on Mac OS), Emacs already places the scroll bar consistently with the user environment it's running in (i.e., on the right). That

Re: Entering filenames with spaces

2005-08-15 Thread Eli Zaretskii
Cc: Stefan Monnier [EMAIL PROTECTED], emacs-devel@gnu.org From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Kim F. Storm) Date: Mon, 15 Aug 2005 09:58:36 +0200 (define-key minibuffer-completion-map 'minibuffer-complete-word) in their .emacs. You must be kidding! Since when people who are accustomed

Re: Typo in search.texi V1.65

2005-08-13 Thread Eli Zaretskii
Date: Sat, 13 Aug 2005 11:26:48 + (GMT) From: Alan Mackenzie [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi, Emacs! Would somebody please install the following change: 2005-08-13 Alan Mackenzie [EMAIL PROTECTED] * search.texi: Correct a typo. Done, thanks.

Re: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Re: mode-line redisplay bug]

2005-08-12 Thread Eli Zaretskii
From: Richard M. Stallman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Fri, 12 Aug 2005 10:59:21 -0400 His test case is very clear, but it does not fail when I try it. FWIW, it doesn't fail for me, either, with today's CVS on w32. Since he says he saw this on several different platforms, while you don't see

Re: is there a cygwin maintainer for gnu emacs?

2005-08-12 Thread Eli Zaretskii
From: Richard M. Stallman [EMAIL PROTECTED] CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED], emacs-devel@gnu.org, [EMAIL PROTECTED], cygwin@cygwin.com Date: Fri, 12 Aug 2005 10:59:49 -0400 As it was, without any message, my initial suspicion was a SEGV or similar, which would be much more

Re: is there a cygwin maintainer for gnu emacs?

2005-08-10 Thread Eli Zaretskii
Date: Wed, 10 Aug 2005 07:37:43 -0400 From: Joe Buehler [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED], cygwin@cygwin.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org I would think that emacs would say why it is aborting. When GC encounters a fatal inconsistency in the Emacs data structures, it is generally unsafe to say

Re: w32 does not have emacsclient/server

2005-08-06 Thread Eli Zaretskii
Date: Sat, 6 Aug 2005 02:02:40 +0200 From: Juanma Barranquero [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED], emacs-devel@gnu.org Would someone *please* try and comment the changes? Or is there no interest on an emacs client/server accessible across the network and Windows-compatible too? I'd

Re: w32 does not have emacsclient/server

2005-08-06 Thread Eli Zaretskii
Cc: Juanma Barranquero [EMAIL PROTECTED], emacs-devel@gnu.org From: Jason Rumney [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sat, 06 Aug 2005 08:12:50 +0100 MUCH easier. In fact, it doesn't need any setup at all just to read messages and reply to them. You will only need to customize if you want to use

Re: w32 does not have emacsclient/server

2005-08-06 Thread Eli Zaretskii
Date: Sat, 06 Aug 2005 11:30:02 +0200 From: Lennart Borgman [EMAIL PROTECTED] CC: Jason Rumney [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], emacs-devel@gnu.org Could those of you that are using some mail client in Emacs on w32 perhaps post to the list and tell how this setup is done? I don't

Re: w32 does not have emacsclient/server

2005-08-05 Thread Eli Zaretskii
Date: Fri, 5 Aug 2005 11:09:45 +0200 From: Juanma Barranquero [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org That said, what would you recommend as e-mail interface for a mostly-Windows Emacs user? Gnus? I use RMAIL, but Gnus should also work. ___

Re: codepage-setup, autoload cpNNN

2005-08-04 Thread Eli Zaretskii
From: Reiner Steib [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thu, 04 Aug 2005 19:57:43 +0200 On GNU/Linux, Emacs autoloads window-12xx. Yes, I know that. But this has nothing to do with the text in the MS-DOS appendix of the manual: that text describes codepage.el which is only used in the MS-DOS port.

Re: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Kill ring leak in winemacs macros]

2005-08-03 Thread Eli Zaretskii
Date: Wed, 03 Aug 2005 23:41:04 +0200 From: Lennart Borgman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org Stuart D. Herring wrote: Is not the variable `x-select-enable-clipboard' for this? No, that enables the use of the X clipboard selection in addition to the X primary

Re: make info on w32

2005-08-02 Thread Eli Zaretskii
Date: Tue, 2 Aug 2005 12:28:21 +0200 From: Juanma Barranquero [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org On 7/30/05, Eli Zaretskii [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Done (including similar changes in lispref/ and lispintro/). Please remove your info/dir file, fetch one from the CVS, and report

Re: emacs MAXPATHLEN

2005-07-30 Thread Eli Zaretskii
From: Giuseppe Scrivano [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sat, 30 Jul 2005 03:31:48 +0200 Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org + if(getcwd (buf, MAXPATHLEN + 1) == 0) +fatal (`getwd' failed: %s\n, buf); The error message mentions the wrong function here. I also wonder whether we should keep the

Re: make info on w32

2005-07-30 Thread Eli Zaretskii
Date: Fri, 29 Jul 2005 12:30:19 +0200 From: Juanma Barranquero [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org On 7/16/05, Eli Zaretskii [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Does anyone know why make info on MS-Windows runs install-info for every manual, instead of relying on info/dir? Seems like

Re: emacs MAXPATHLEN

2005-07-30 Thread Eli Zaretskii
From: Andreas Schwab [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], emacs-devel@gnu.org Date: Sat, 30 Jul 2005 19:35:19 +0200 You can easily create a deeply nested directory whose absolute file name is longer than MAXPATHLEN. The MAXPATHLEN (a.k.a

Re: emacs MAXPATHLEN

2005-07-29 Thread Eli Zaretskii
From: Giuseppe Scrivano [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Fri, 29 Jul 2005 02:22:37 +0200 Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org This little patch should fix it. Thanks, but please see my comments below. @@ -5146,14 +5146,47 @@ stat (., dotstat) == 0 dotstat.st_ino == pwdstat.st_ino

Re: lisp/Makefile.unix ??

2005-07-28 Thread Eli Zaretskii
Date: Thu, 28 Jul 2005 10:42:12 +0200 From: Juanma Barranquero [EMAIL PROTECTED] This line of nt/configure.bat puzzles me. What purpose does it serve? if not exist ..\lisp\Makefile.unix rename ..\lisp\Makefile.in Makefile.unix On in-place installs, the next cvs update will bring back

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