Re: "Orgdown", the new name for the syntax of Org-mode

2021-11-29 Thread Marcin Borkowski
On 2021-11-29, at 19:27, M. ‘quintus’ Gülker wrote: > Am Montag, dem 29. November 2021 schrieb Karl Voit: >> It seems to be the case that the name "Orgdown" is the reason why >> the Org-mode community does not support the idea of an >> implementation-agnostic definition of the syntax. Which is

Is it possible to add a "cumulative" column in column view?

2021-11-29 Thread Marcin Borkowski
Hi fellow Orgers, I started using column view recently, and I would greatly appreciate it if I could add a column with "cumulative sum". In a less-than ideal world it would be the sum of all the values of some property until the current row. In an ideal world, it could only count values of some

Re: Subject: [PATCH] Fix DISPLAY error on exporting org with plantuml to html

2021-11-29 Thread Sun Lin
Hi Timothy, Thank you! : )  I had signed the FSF, RT: 1718442.  B.R.  Lin On Tuesday, November 30, 2021, 04:22:03 AM UTC, Timothy wrote: > Hi Sun, > Thanks for not forgetting about this. As I commented before, I this looks  sensible enough to apply, and so I’ve just pushed it as f9dcc3d

Re: Subject: [PATCH] Fix DISPLAY error on exporting org with plantuml to html

2021-11-29 Thread Timothy
Hi Sun, > Can any help merge the patch? Or should I request Bastien to merge the patch?  Thanks for not forgetting about this. As I commented before, I this looks sensible enough to apply, and so I’ve just pushed it as f9dcc3d with a tweaked commit message. You’ve also been added to the list of

Re: Is M-j broken for you in Org on Emacs 27 and 28?

2021-11-29 Thread Tim Cross
Richard Lawrence writes: > Tim Cross writes: > >> I'm running Emacs 28 and cannot reproduce the issue you observe. > > Hmm, the plot thickens! > >> Running emacs -Q I find M-j is bound to >> >> M-j runs the command default-indent-new-line (found in global-map), >> which is an interactive

Re: [org-cite] autoload oc processors?

2021-11-29 Thread Nicolas Goaziou
Hello, Timothy writes: > A more sophisticated solution probably exists, but my thought was that if a > cite > export keyword like this is seen: > ┌ > │ #+cite_export: FORMAT ... > └ > > and there is no known cite backend `FORMAT', then we could just try running > ┌ > │ (require

[BUG] clocktable :inherit-props does not respect global property setting [9.4.6 (9.4.6-12-gdcc3a8-elpa @ /home/jet/.config/emacs/elpa/org-20210823/)]

2021-11-29 Thread Jeff Trull
:inherit-props seems to not consider global properties. Testcase: # Create a global property #+PROPERTY: HOURLY_RATE 150 * Top 1 ** Sub 1A # here we should get the global property, but do not :LOGBOOK: CLOCK: [2021-09-26 Sun 12:25]--[2021-09-26 Sun 13:25] => 1:00 - I did some tasks

Re: [org-cite] autoload oc processors?

2021-11-29 Thread Nicolas Goaziou
Hello, "Bruce D'Arcus" writes: > I probably don't understand autoloading very well, but was thinking of > something like this: > > ;;;###autoload > (org-cite-register-processor 'oc-natbib ... IIUC, this would register `natibib' processor for everyone whenever Org is loaded. This may not be

Re: [patch] fix ox-latex async export bug

2021-11-29 Thread Nicolas Goaziou
Hello, Sébastien Miquel writes: > Attached is a patch that applies the same fix where affected. Thank you. It mostly looks good, but I have one nit. > - (lambda (file) > - (run-hook-with-args 'org-icalendar-after-save-hook file) nil > + '(lambda (file) > +

Re: [PATCH] Fontification for inline src blocks

2021-11-29 Thread Timothy
Hi Ihor, > That’s an option. Though you should also consider a paragraph ending at > EOB. Searching for “” will fail with error then. Don’t worry, that’s just a snippet. The full logic is as follows ┌ │ (min limit (or (save-excursion (and (search-forward "\n" limit t 2) (point))) │

Re: [org-cite] autoload oc processors?

2021-11-29 Thread Timothy
Hi Bruce, > Primarily I am asking if there’s a way to load the processor as needed > without a user explicitly having to do so. This is actually a thought that occurred to me recently, and I’ve been considering bringing up on the ML. Thanks for mentioning this. A more sophisticated solution

Re: [PATCH] Accept more :tangle-mode specification forms

2021-11-29 Thread Timothy
Hi Tim, > I’ll let you (/the ML) know when I’ve taken a look at stiky bits, and whether > I > think I’m able to create something that works. My intuition is that if ls -l > can > properly represent sticky bits (and my rudimentary understanding is that it > can) > it should be fine for

Re: "Orgdown", the new name for the syntax of Org-mode

2021-11-29 Thread M . ‘quintus’ Gülker
Am Montag, dem 29. November 2021 schrieb Karl Voit: > It seems to be the case that the name "Orgdown" is the reason why > the Org-mode community does not support the idea of an > implementation-agnostic definition of the syntax. Which is ... kinda > funny if you think about it. > > Well if the

Re: Is M-j broken for you in Org on Emacs 27 and 28?

2021-11-29 Thread Richard Lawrence
Tim Cross writes: > I think something is very wrong if your Emacs 28 has org 9.3. I'm pretty > sure the earliest version which was bundled with Emacs 28 was 9.4 - it > is certainly 9.5 now and that is the version that will be bundled with > it when it is released. Fair enough -- I did think

Re: Re-installing org-mode packages due to annoying message

2021-11-29 Thread Thomas S. Dye
Aloha Alan, Alan E. Davis writes: It is interesting that an old timer like yourself would reach for Spacemacs. I haven't, mostly because I don't think I need the modal model of Vi. The keybindings of Emacs or so convenient and intelligent I find them to be enough. Here's where I might

Re: "Orgdown", the new name for the syntax of Org-mode

2021-11-29 Thread Matt Price
I don't have very thoughtful comments but I'll just say that I really do also like the idea of a formal syntax; that a staged standard seems to make sense to me, though I'm ignorant about how syntaxes are normally defined and managed; and am generally not super enthusiastic about the particular

Re: Is M-j broken for you in Org on Emacs 27 and 28?

2021-11-29 Thread Colin Baxter 
> Richard Lawrence writes: > Tim Cross writes: >> I'm running Emacs 28 and cannot reproduce the issue you observe. > Hmm, the plot thickens! >> Running emacs -Q I find M-j is bound to >> >> M-j runs the command default-indent-new-line (found in >> global-map),

Re: Is M-j broken for you in Org on Emacs 27 and 28?

2021-11-29 Thread Tim Cross
Richard Lawrence writes: > Tim Cross writes: > >> I'm running Emacs 28 and cannot reproduce the issue you observe. > > Hmm, the plot thickens! > >> Running emacs -Q I find M-j is bound to >> >> M-j runs the command default-indent-new-line (found in global-map), >> which is an interactive

Re: [org-cite] autoload oc processors?

2021-11-29 Thread Bruce D'Arcus
On Sun, Nov 28, 2021 at 5:19 PM Nicolas Goaziou wrote: > > Hello, > > "Bruce D'Arcus" writes: > > > Is there any reason not to autoload the processors? > > I am not sure about what you mean. Could you elaborate? Primarily I am asking if there's a way to load the processor as needed without a

Re: "Orgdown", the new name for the syntax of Org-mode

2021-11-29 Thread Karl Voit
Hi Tim, * Tim Cross wrote: > > Hi Karl, > > while I can appreciate the point you are making, I'm doubtful your > suggestion will gain the traction necessary to work. You might be right. Only time will tell. ;-) > To me, it feels a little like the frequent posts from RMS in the > emacs-devel

Re: "Orgdown", the new name for the syntax of Org-mode

2021-11-29 Thread Christophe Schockaert
On 2021-11-29 03:33, Michael Ashton wrote: On Nov 28, 2021, at 6:22 PM, Jim Porter wrote: On 11/28/2021 11:46 AM, Karl Voit wrote: At this year's EmascsConf, I had a 12 minute video where I explain why we do need a different name for the syntax of Org-mode in contrast to the Elisp

Re: Stable 9.5: invalid function (date date)

2021-11-29 Thread Tim Loderhose
Hi Ihor, I refactored my emacs config and it appears like the problem is gone now. (I was just using use-package, but there may have been some bit loading org early) Thanks for the pointer in any case! Best, Tim On Thu, Nov 25, 2021 at 11:09 AM Ihor Radchenko wrote: > Tim Loderhose writes: >

Re: "Orgdown", the new name for the syntax of Org-mode

2021-11-29 Thread Max Nikulin
On 29/11/2021 09:33, Michael Ashton wrote: On 11/28/2021 11:46 AM, Karl Voit wrote: At this year's EmascsConf, I had a 12 minute video where I explain why we do need a different name for the syntax of Org-mode in contrast to the Elisp implementation of GNU/Emacs Org-mode. I would like you to

Re: "Orgdown", the new name for the syntax of Org-mode

2021-11-29 Thread Marcin Borkowski
On 2021-11-29, at 13:18, Juan Manuel Macías wrote: > Marcin Borkowski writes: > >> Quite the contrary. The amount of confusion between TeX (engine)/TeX >> (language)/TeX (distro)/TeX-aware text editor/LaTeX (whatever) among >> novice/casual users has always been terrible. > > It's natural

Re: "Orgdown", the new name for the syntax of Org-mode

2021-11-29 Thread Juan Manuel Macías
Marcin Borkowski writes: > Quite the contrary. The amount of confusion between TeX (engine)/TeX > (language)/TeX (distro)/TeX-aware text editor/LaTeX (whatever) among > novice/casual users has always been terrible. It's natural when those novice/casual users approach something that is new to

Re: [PATCH] Fix regex for determining image width from attribute

2021-11-29 Thread Max Nikulin
On 29/11/2021 07:23, Matt Huszagh wrote: Max Nikulin writes: My current variant: ":\\(?:[^\n]*?[[:blank:]]\\)?:width[[:blank:]]+\\(\\S-+\\)" The regexp should not match e.g. #+attr_html: :alt something :width 600 P.S. I would prefer to use the same parser as ox does. I can probably

[PATCH] [BUG] org.el: Fix first call of `org-paste-subtree'

2021-11-29 Thread Max Nikulin
An old bug is living in Org. =C-c C-x C-y= ~org-paste-subtree~ fails just after Emacs start. Maybe there are more similar issues. - Start *new* instance of emacs. - Copy some text that is Org subtree from some *external* application (not Emacs). I usually come across this issue when I copy

Re: Re-installing org-mode packages due to annoying message

2021-11-29 Thread Alan E. Davis
Tim: I appreciate your thoughtful response. You went to a great deal of trouble, and answered, I think, most of the important questions I have with this issue. I use Arch Linux, and have been installing the AUR emacs-git package. Sure, I don't need to go beyond the current stable package. For

Re: [patch] fix ox-latex async export bug

2021-11-29 Thread Sébastien Miquel
Hi, Nicolas Goaziou writes: I don’t really understand why this bug happens to be honest. The patch is already an improvement, but the beast is still lurking, indeed. This is most likely due to native compilation which compiles the unquoted lambda. Once compiled, it (presumably) fails to be

Re: Is M-j broken for you in Org on Emacs 27 and 28?

2021-11-29 Thread Richard Lawrence
Sorry, forgot to reply to this: Tim Cross writes: > Note that C-j in org mode is different from 'normal' C-j in that it is > bound to org-return-and-maybe-indent. If you want M-j to act like C-j in > org mode, you would need to rebind M-j to org-return-and-maybe-indent in > an appropriate org

Re: Is M-j broken for you in Org on Emacs 27 and 28?

2021-11-29 Thread Richard Lawrence
Tim Cross writes: > I'm running Emacs 28 and cannot reproduce the issue you observe. Hmm, the plot thickens! > Running emacs -Q I find M-j is bound to > > M-j runs the command default-indent-new-line (found in global-map), > which is an interactive compiled Lisp function in ‘simple.el’. I