Re: [Orgmode] [org-babel] Does org-babel needs some simplification?

2010-07-01 Thread Eric Schulte
Hi Torsten, I love the idea of a Babel for dummies manual, and I'm an even bigger fan of the manual being produced by user's of Babel (i.e. not myself). I'll be more than happy to support this effort in any way. Also, the beta-testing role you mention could be extremely helpful. In the absence

Re: [Orgmode] [org-babel] Does org-babel needs some simplification?

2010-06-30 Thread Torsten Wagner
Hi, many thanks for the nice thoughts and posts. To sum up, I think it might not be easy to remove parts of org-babel since it is difficult to determine and a highly personal decision to define what is important and what is unimportant. Nevertheless Carten and Eric pointed out that the

Re: [Orgmode] [org-babel] Does org-babel needs some simplification?

2010-06-29 Thread Thomas S. Dye
On Jun 28, 2010, at 5:51 PM, Torsten Wagner wrote: Dear All, as a (quite, but happy) org-bable user of the first hour I followed up the development process actively. Nevertheless, some weeks or months pass where I had no need for org-babel (yes, really strange I know). Whenever I come back

Re: [Orgmode] [org-babel] Does org-babel needs some simplification?

2010-06-29 Thread Eric Schulte
Hi Torsten, Thanks for bringing this up. I think you're right that Org-babel does need to expose some simple points of entry. However in reviewing the points of complexity, - tangling - noweb references - the profusion of header arguments - the library of babel my immersed and subjective

Re: [Orgmode] [org-babel] Does org-babel needs some simplification?

2010-06-29 Thread Eric Schulte
Hi Erik, Erik Iverson er...@ccbr.umn.edu writes: [...] I have not used it for Python, but for R coding I've found it incredibly intuitive. However, that might be because R has long supported literate programming through Sweave, complete with noweb syntax and code tangling. Speaking of

Re: [Orgmode] [org-babel] Does org-babel needs some simplification?

2010-06-28 Thread Erik Iverson
Hello! snip Whenever I come back to org-babel, it takes me a huge amount of time to find myself back again in the syntax. Often I spend a day or two heavily reading the website and manual again to figure out how to make it working. There are so many options. tangle files, results, scripting