Re: [O] [ANN] org-bibtex.el --- convert between Org headings and bibtex entries

2011-04-27 Thread Eric Schulte
Hi Matt, Matt Lundin writes: > Hi Eric, > > "Eric Schulte" writes: > >> Matt Lundin writes: >> >> [...] I understand I may add to the types variable.  When using org-bibtex-create, I can enter any arbitrary field as a PROPERTY; however, org-bibtex ignores anything outside of the

Re: [O] [ANN] org-bibtex.el --- convert between Org headings and bibtex entries

2011-04-25 Thread Matt Lundin
Hi Eric, "Eric Schulte" writes: > Matt Lundin writes: > > [...] >>> I understand I may add to the types variable.  When using >>> org-bibtex-create, I can enter any arbitrary field as a PROPERTY; >>> however, org-bibtex ignores anything outside of the universe it knows >>> about.  Would it be b

Re: [O] [ANN] org-bibtex.el --- convert between Org headings and bibtex entries

2011-04-25 Thread Eric Schulte
Matt Lundin writes: > Hi Eric and Christian, > > Christian Moe writes: > >> The *conclusion* (where Eric Schulte's new bibtex functions should go) >> is not a big concern to me, but FWIW, the *premise* strikes me as >> unnecessarily restrictive. >> >> I submit that, for any non-Org format or app

Re: [O] [ANN] org-bibtex.el --- convert between Org headings and bibtex entries

2011-04-25 Thread Eric Schulte
"Alan E. Davis" writes: [...] >> cat ~/references.bib |xclip -selection clipboard >> >> will copy the entirety of the references.bib file to the clipboard. >> >> This is good. Thank you. This will certainly be helpful in some cases. > > The case for cb2Bib is somewhat different, as once the t

Re: [O] [ANN] org-bibtex.el --- convert between Org headings and bibtex entries

2011-04-25 Thread Matt Lundin
Hi Eric and Christian, Christian Moe writes: > The *conclusion* (where Eric Schulte's new bibtex functions should go) > is not a big concern to me, but FWIW, the *premise* strikes me as > unnecessarily restrictive. > > I submit that, for any non-Org format or application "foo", the module > org-

Re: [O] [ANN] org-bibtex.el --- convert between Org headings and bibtex entries

2011-04-24 Thread Alan E. Davis
On Mon, Apr 25, 2011 at 12:29 AM, Eric Schulte wrote: > > It sounds like asking the cb2bib developers to either automatically copy > completed entries to the clipboard, or to add a button implementing this > behavior would be ideal. Indeed, this is about what cb2Bib does, to a good extent, depen

Re: [O] [ANN] org-bibtex.el --- convert between Org headings and bibtex entries

2011-04-24 Thread Christian Moe
On 4/24/11 4:21 PM, Eric Schulte wrote: Matt Lundin writes: (...) Eric, the more I think about this, the more my vote would be to package this new functionality separately. IMO, hyperlinking to external data in bib files is somewhat orthogonal to storing bib data within org files. In other wor

Re: [O] [ANN] org-bibtex.el --- convert between Org headings and bibtex entries

2011-04-24 Thread Eric Schulte
"Alan E. Davis" writes: [...] > > Once this process is complete, I can see that being able to, in turn copy > this entry to the clipboard would indeed be useful with org-bibtex . I > wonder if it's possible to set a pipe or one of those cryptic file types > (fifo?) I cannot remember would eithe

Re: [O] [ANN] org-bibtex.el --- convert between Org headings and bibtex entries

2011-04-24 Thread Eric Schulte
Matt Lundin writes: [...] >> I understand I may add to the types variable.  When using >> org-bibtex-create, I can enter any arbitrary field as a PROPERTY; >> however, org-bibtex ignores anything outside of the universe it knows >> about.  Would it be bad practice to allow the export of any arbit

Re: [O] [ANN] org-bibtex.el --- convert between Org headings and bibtex entries

2011-04-23 Thread Alan E. Davis
Comments below On Sun, Apr 24, 2011 at 10:52 AM, Eric Schulte wrote: > > Is there a more natural way that this could integrate with external > tools like cb2bib? I've just now installed cb2bib, and I'm not sure I > fully grasp its usage. > > I also found cb2Bib pretty opaque when I first instal

Re: [O] [ANN] org-bibtex.el --- convert between Org headings and bibtex entries

2011-04-23 Thread Eric Schulte
"Alan E. Davis" writes: > Some notes on initially trying out this new tool. I have some reservations > as to whether it use it. There are certain good reasons in its favor. > > This works to both store bibtex database entries and export to .bib files. > I REALLY like the automagical harvesting

Re: [O] [ANN] org-bibtex.el --- convert between Org headings and bibtex entries

2011-04-23 Thread Matt Lundin
"Alan E. Davis" writes: > This works to both store bibtex database entries and export to .bib > files.  I REALLY like the automagical harvesting of data using cb2Bib.  > It is unique, and I don't see how to recruit it to produce a database > in an org file, or pipe it into this org-bibtex tool.  

Re: [O] [ANN] org-bibtex.el --- convert between Org headings and bibtex entries

2011-04-23 Thread Alan E. Davis
Some notes on initially trying out this new tool. I have some reservations as to whether it use it. There are certain good reasons in its favor. This works to both store bibtex database entries and export to .bib files. I REALLY like the automagical harvesting of data using cb2Bib. It is unique

Re: [O] [ANN] org-bibtex.el --- convert between Org headings and bibtex entries

2011-04-23 Thread Thomas S. Dye
Hi Eric, After tests on a variety of bibtex entries, using both point before the entry and selecting an entry, I can't reproduce the problem I had late the other night with org-bibtex-read/write. Perhaps it was user error :( Also, thanks for the text file patch. My mail client and git a

Re: [O] [ANN] org-bibtex.el --- convert between Org headings and bibtex entries

2011-04-21 Thread Eric Schulte
"Thomas S. Dye" writes: > Hi Eric, > > On Apr 20, 2011, at 9:00 AM, Eric Schulte wrote: > >> Hi Tom, >> >> "Thomas S. Dye" writes: >> >>> Hi Eric, >>> >>> This could be very useful and a significant enhancement to Org-mode >>> for note taking. With it, library time can be spent almost entirely

Re: [O] [ANN] org-bibtex.el --- convert between Org headings and bibtex entries

2011-04-21 Thread Thomas S. Dye
Hi Eric, On Apr 20, 2011, at 9:00 AM, Eric Schulte wrote: Hi Tom, "Thomas S. Dye" writes: Hi Eric, This could be very useful and a significant enhancement to Org-mode for note taking. With it, library time can be spent almost entirely within Org-mode, capturing bibliographic information a

Re: [O] [ANN] org-bibtex.el --- convert between Org headings and bibtex entries

2011-04-20 Thread Eric Schulte
Matt Lundin writes: > Hi Eric, > > "Eric Schulte" writes: > >> In an attempt to organize my reading notes, I've written the following >> tool which allows both for exporting Org-mode headlines with bibtex >> meta-data to bibtex entries, and for reading existing bibtex entries >> into Org-mode he

Re: [O] [ANN] org-bibtex.el --- convert between Org headings and bibtex entries

2011-04-20 Thread Eric Schulte
Christian Moe writes: > Cool! Thanks for this. I understand the Fireforg project provides part > of this functionality (integrated with Zotero), but this free-standing > tool looks helpful. Three quick comments: > > - I tried to just put this on my load path and require it, but there > seems to b

Re: [O] [ANN] org-bibtex.el --- convert between Org headings and bibtex entries

2011-04-20 Thread Eric Schulte
Matt Lundin writes: > "Thomas S. Dye" writes: > >> This could be very useful and a significant enhancement to Org-mode >> for note taking. With it, library time can be spent almost entirely >> within Org-mode, capturing bibliographic information and taking >> reading notes. It feels like the rig

Re: [O] [ANN] org-bibtex.el --- convert between Org headings and bibtex entries

2011-04-20 Thread Eric Schulte
Hi Tom, "Thomas S. Dye" writes: > Hi Eric, > > This could be very useful and a significant enhancement to Org-mode > for note taking. With it, library time can be spent almost entirely > within Org-mode, capturing bibliographic information and taking > reading notes. It feels like the right le

Re: [O] [ANN] org-bibtex.el --- convert between Org headings and bibtex entries

2011-04-20 Thread Matt Lundin
Matt Lundin writes: > Also, it might be nice to allow a way to one's existing bibtex entry ^ use - > type and field definitions---i.e., bibtex-entry-field-alist.

Re: [O] [ANN] org-bibtex.el --- convert between Org headings and bibtex entries

2011-04-20 Thread Matt Lundin
"Thomas S. Dye" writes: > This could be very useful and a significant enhancement to Org-mode > for note taking. With it, library time can be spent almost entirely > within Org-mode, capturing bibliographic information and taking > reading notes. It feels like the right level of functionality-- >

Re: [O] [ANN] org-bibtex.el --- convert between Org headings and bibtex entries

2011-04-20 Thread Matt Lundin
Hi Eric, "Eric Schulte" writes: > In an attempt to organize my reading notes, I've written the following > tool which allows both for exporting Org-mode headlines with bibtex > meta-data to bibtex entries, and for reading existing bibtex entries > into Org-mode headings. > > One nice feature of

Re: [O] [ANN] org-bibtex.el --- convert between Org headings and bibtex entries

2011-04-20 Thread Christian Moe
Cool! Thanks for this. I understand the Fireforg project provides part of this functionality (integrated with Zotero), but this free-standing tool looks helpful. Three quick comments: - I tried to just put this on my load path and require it, but there seems to be a name conflict with the exis

Re: [O] [ANN] org-bibtex.el --- convert between Org headings and bibtex entries

2011-04-20 Thread Thomas S. Dye
Hi Eric, This could be very useful and a significant enhancement to Org-mode for note taking. With it, library time can be spent almost entirely within Org-mode, capturing bibliographic information and taking reading notes. It feels like the right level of functionality-- lightweight and

Re: [O] [ANN] org-bibtex.el --- convert between Org headings and bibtex entries

2011-04-19 Thread Eric Schulte
Jeff Horn writes: > This looks great! I haven't quite read all the code, but I wonder how > this would work on files where bib entries are in their own headline > or mixed into the document ad hoc. Is this designed for a document > with *only* bibtex headlines? > If a headline doesn't have a "ty

Re: [O] [ANN] org-bibtex.el --- convert between Org headings and bibtex entries

2011-04-19 Thread Jeff Horn
This looks great! I haven't quite read all the code, but I wonder how this would work on files where bib entries are in their own headline or mixed into the document ad hoc. Is this designed for a document with *only* bibtex headlines? On Tue, Apr 19, 2011 at 7:52 PM, Eric Schulte wrote: > Hi, >