Re: [Emc-developers] 2.8 Situation

2020-06-10 Thread Phill Carter
> On 11 Jun 2020, at 12:54 pm, Rod Webster wrote: > >> On Thu, 11 Jun 2020 at 12:33, Reinhard >> wrote: >> >> If other users have similar experiences, then a lot of precious developer >> time >> has been wasted on releases, that don't have much importance. >> I believe, that developer

Re: [Emc-developers] 2.8 Situation

2020-06-10 Thread Jon Elson
On 06/10/2020 09:33 PM, Reinhard wrote: RIP-installation? - wtf - I wanted to start with linuxcnc, not bring it to cementery RIP is "Run In Place". This allows you to have several versions of LinuxCNC on the same computer. It is usually used by developers who have compiled LinuxCNC from the

Re: [Emc-developers] 2.8 Situation

2020-06-10 Thread Rod Webster
>If other users have similar experiences, then a lot of precious developer time >has been wasted on releases, that don't have much importance. >I believe, that developer time spent on pushing things ahead makes more sense, >than spending it on releases. I think that sums it up nicely. Look to the

Re: [Emc-developers] 2.8 Situation

2020-06-10 Thread Reinhard
Hi, On Mittwoch, 10. Juni 2020, 21:38:16 CEST Alec Ari via Emc-developers wrote: > X.org was old, so Wayland was invented. Sysvinit was old so SystemD was > invented. If you don't like the GUI for LinuxCNC because it looks old, you > can make your interface look super pretty with qtpyvcp. Even

Re: [Emc-developers] 2.8 Situation

2020-06-10 Thread Jon Elson
On 06/10/2020 05:19 PM, Alec Ari via Emc-developers wrote: Paolo just emailed me and can't recreate the RTAI crash on his end. I asked about his configuration and I'll be trying a few more things. Yeah, I was afraid of that. He has some "magic sauce" in his systems that nobody else knows

Re: [Emc-developers] 2.8 Situation

2020-06-10 Thread andy pugh
On Wed, 10 Jun 2020 at 23:19, Alec Ari via Emc-developers wrote: > > Paolo just emailed me and can't recreate the RTAI crash on his end. I asked > about his configuration and I'll be trying a few more things. Yes, his config would be rather useful, if so. In other news, a report from the IRC:

Re: [Emc-developers] 2.8 Situation

2020-06-10 Thread Alec Ari via Emc-developers
Paolo just emailed me and can't recreate the RTAI crash on his end. I asked about his configuration and I'll be trying a few more things. Alec ___ Emc-developers mailing list Emc-developers@lists.sourceforge.net

Re: [Emc-developers] 2.8 Situation

2020-06-10 Thread Rod Webster
>Well paying offers for LCNC dev work should be taken quickly. I've seen >offers of hundreds of $ US for many days or even weeks of work. Bari, We thought it would be well into the thousands and probably involve weeks of work to create jerk limited motion profiles in the XY plane There is one

Re: [Emc-developers] 2.8 Situation

2020-06-10 Thread andy pugh
On Wed, 10 Jun 2020 at 20:48, Alec Ari via Emc-developers wrote: > X.org was old, so Wayland was invented. Sysvinit was old so SystemD was > invented. If you don't like the GUI for LinuxCNC because it looks old, you > can make your interface look super pretty with qtpyvcp. You know, I think we

Re: [Emc-developers] 2.8 Situation

2020-06-10 Thread Alec Ari via Emc-developers
If you are "deterred from trying linuxcnc because its so dated" then go use Mach4 so I don't need to listen to your complaining :) X.org was old, so Wayland was invented. Sysvinit was old so SystemD was invented. If you don't like the GUI for LinuxCNC because it looks old, you can make your

Re: [Emc-developers] 2.8 Situation

2020-06-10 Thread Bari
Well paying offers for LCNC dev work should be taken quickly. I've seen offers of hundreds of $ US for many days or even weeks of work. On 6/9/20 8:12 PM, Rod Webster wrote: formal mechanism to connect sponsors with interested developers would be useful. But if there is somebody here that

Re: [Emc-developers] 2.8 Situation

2020-06-10 Thread N
> I'm not seeing where RTAI is being removed from LinuxCNC only > suggestions so far say release preempt-rt now and hold RTAI ISO until > the bug can be sorted out. ... I would have chosen this path to. Release now and hold back until bug sorted out.

Re: [Emc-developers] 2.8 Situation

2020-06-10 Thread Stuart Stevenson
Alec, I truly appreciate your contributions BUT have to chuckle at one comment. you can ignore the following comments as they are just in fun On 6/10/20 2:56 AM, Alec Ari via Emc-developers wrote: > > I want what I want because I'm five and I want it now. I spent 6 years > working my ass off

Re: [Emc-developers] 2.8 Situation

2020-06-10 Thread Thomas J Powderly
Thanks Alec, I know its hard work and your work _is_ appreciated tomp On 6/10/20 2:56 AM, Alec Ari via Emc-developers wrote: I want what I want because I'm five and I want it now. I spent 6 years working my ass off on RTAI and none of you could give a fuck less.

Re: [Emc-developers] 2.8 Situation

2020-06-10 Thread Rod Webster
>Who have they emailed? Andy, I wrote the emails. I don't think it's appropriate to resort to a public name and shame. To be fair one did reply but then the conversation stopped a month ago. All I can say is that the potential sponsors are well resourced and are very serious about their CNC

Re: [Emc-developers] 2.8 Situation

2020-06-10 Thread andy pugh
On Wed, 10 Jun 2020 at 01:24, Rod Webster wrote: > Well they are more than happy to do that and have offered to engage an > experienced developer several times but nobody seems to care... and emails > remain unanswered... Who have they emailed? -- atp "A motorcycle is a bicycle with a

Re: [Emc-developers] 2.8 Situation

2020-06-10 Thread andy pugh
On Wed, 10 Jun 2020 at 03:41, Jon Elson wrote: > So, this doesn't actually need the module to even be > executed! Just install the module and > then remove it, and rtai locks up eventually? Wow! Yes, but, to be clear, this is typically taking tens of thousands of cycles, whereas I found out