Re: [Emc-developers] GladeVCP and PyGTK

2018-10-13 Thread Gene Heskett
On Saturday 13 October 2018 10:25:26 andy pugh wrote: > On Fri, 12 Oct 2018 at 22:22, Gene Heskett wrote: > > How hard would it be to either make QTVCP either use the current xml > > and matching hal files, or to write a one-time translator that > > would? > > Which XML? Do you mean the PyVCP

Re: [Emc-developers] GladeVCP and PyGTK

2018-10-13 Thread andy pugh
On Fri, 12 Oct 2018 at 22:22, Gene Heskett wrote: > How hard would it be to either make QTVCP either use the current xml and > matching hal files, or to write a one-time translator that would? Which XML? Do you mean the PyVCP (hand coded) file or the Glade file? Even Glade struggles to parse

Re: [Emc-developers] GladeVCP and PyGTK

2018-10-13 Thread theman whosoldtheworld
right (in our opinions of course) and we would be quite reticent to >> > > re-invent them in some other description language. For instance, if >> > > and when I ever get a dependable camera setup on the G0704, the gui >> > > stuff to use it is already composed and

Re: [Emc-developers] GladeVCP and PyGTK

2018-10-13 Thread theman whosoldtheworld
setup on the G0704, the gui > > > stuff to use it is already composed and hopefully useable with the > > > align.zip utility. > > > > > > > To complicate things further python 2 is at end of life, and > > > > python 3 is different enough that its not a s

Re: [Emc-developers] GladeVCP and PyGTK

2018-10-13 Thread Gene Heskett
and > > > python 3 is different enough that its not a small task to switch > > > (it's mostly the C/C++ extensions of python that's the trouble) > > > > And thats yet another hurdle to jump over/thru. Sadly I've not > > glommed onto the language well enough to do the conversion

Re: [Emc-developers] GladeVCP and PyGTK

2018-10-13 Thread theman whosoldtheworld
language well enough to do the conversions needed. > > > > Chris M > > > > From: Jon Elson > > Sent: October 12, 2018 4:36 PM > > To: EMC developers > > Subject: Re: [Emc-developers] GladeVCP and PyGTK > > > > On

Re: [Emc-developers] GladeVCP and PyGTK

2018-10-12 Thread Gene Heskett
to the language well enough to do the conversions needed. > > Chris M > > From: Jon Elson > Sent: October 12, 2018 4:36 PM > To: EMC developers > Subject: Re: [Emc-developers] GladeVCP and PyGTK > > On 10/12/2018 03:38 AM, andy pugh wrote:

Re: [Emc-developers] GladeVCP and PyGTK

2018-10-12 Thread theman whosoldtheworld
__ > From: Jon Elson > Sent: October 12, 2018 4:36 PM > To: EMC developers > Subject: Re: [Emc-developers] GladeVCP and PyGTK > > On 10/12/2018 03:38 AM, andy pugh wrote: > > On Fri, 12 Oct 2018 at 08:37, theman whosoldtheworld > > wrote: > >&g

Re: [Emc-developers] GladeVCP and PyGTK

2018-10-12 Thread Chris Morley
-developers] GladeVCP and PyGTK On 10/12/2018 03:38 AM, andy pugh wrote: > On Fri, 12 Oct 2018 at 08:37, theman whosoldtheworld > wrote: >> About GoObject and other the language structure is pretty similar to >> c++ ... so why not use directly c++ for ui instead all other lan

Re: [Emc-developers] GladeVCP and PyGTK

2018-10-12 Thread Jon Elson
On 10/12/2018 03:38 AM, andy pugh wrote: On Fri, 12 Oct 2018 at 08:37, theman whosoldtheworld wrote: About GoObject and other the language structure is pretty similar to c++ ... so why not use directly c++ for ui instead all other languages? GladeVCP and PyVCP are specifically provided

Re: [Emc-developers] GladeVCP and PyGTK

2018-10-12 Thread theman whosoldtheworld
@andy-pugh ok so if noone reply to me ... I think better way is to build a complete install on a fresh mint-mate preempt pc. Than test again. I hope that kuminzky can help me even before I go to set up a new pc. :) I open a new post. bkt Il giorno ven 12 ott 2018 alle ore 12:29 andy pugh

Re: [Emc-developers] GladeVCP and PyGTK

2018-10-12 Thread andy pugh
On Fri, 12 Oct 2018 at 10:25, theman whosoldtheworld wrote: > if no .. if you can not patiently open a specific request to developper I am afraid I know next-to-nothing about compiling LinuxCNC. I always just use the Make scripts. -- atp "A motorcycle is a bicycle with a pandemonium

Re: [Emc-developers] GladeVCP and PyGTK

2018-10-12 Thread theman whosoldtheworld
@ andy-pugh :) :) opencv & python bad example but for simple task is quite good. is possible to make you an OT question? this is my test.sh: #!/bin/sh linuxcnc & set -x g++ -I /home/mypc/linuxcnc-dev/tests/build/ui/nml-position-logger.cc \ -L /home/mypc/linuxcnc-dev/lib -lnml

Re: [Emc-developers] GladeVCP and PyGTK

2018-10-12 Thread andy pugh
On Fri, 12 Oct 2018 at 10:02, theman whosoldtheworld wrote: > this is right for shure but I think about Thread, networking, parsing, > file magement, database, vision library and graphic library . probabily > is possible with python never try and plus never really study python. Python

Re: [Emc-developers] GladeVCP and PyGTK

2018-10-12 Thread theman whosoldtheworld
@andy-pugh > GladeVCP and PyVCP are specifically provided to aid user configuration > and customisation. > So, they use scripts that can be readily modified and where > modifications take effect immediately without recompilation. this is right for shure but I think about Thread, networking,

Re: [Emc-developers] GladeVCP and PyGTK

2018-10-12 Thread andy pugh
On Fri, 12 Oct 2018 at 08:37, theman whosoldtheworld wrote: > > About GoObject and other the language structure is pretty similar to > c++ ... so why not use directly c++ for ui instead all other languages? GladeVCP and PyVCP are specifically provided to aid user configuration and

Re: [Emc-developers] GladeVCP and PyGTK

2018-10-12 Thread Chris Morley
or C++ is a new modern openGL Gcode graphics display. Then we could add python bindings to it and have the best of both worlds. Chris M From: theman whosoldtheworld Sent: October 12, 2018 7:35 AM To: EMC developers Subject: Re: [Emc-developers] GladeVCP and PyGTK

Re: [Emc-developers] GladeVCP and PyGTK

2018-10-12 Thread theman whosoldtheworld
About GoObject and other the language structure is pretty similar to c++ ... so why not use directly c++ for ui instead all other languages? c++ is develop a lot and is quite multiplatform PyQt and Qt c++ about licensing is equal why not c++ instead a lot of experiment?? Is more

Re: [Emc-developers] GladeVCP and PyGTK

2018-10-11 Thread Jon Elson
On 10/11/2018 07:54 AM, andy pugh wrote: It looks like PyGTK is dead. (pygtk.org forwards to pygobject) Last release was 7 years ago. This might explain why no support or help is available. Should we start to deprecate GladeVCP? Arrgh! Well, we certainly need a replacement for it if it

Re: [Emc-developers] GladeVCP and PyGTK

2018-10-11 Thread Gene Heskett
On Thursday 11 October 2018 08:54:32 andy pugh wrote: > It looks like PyGTK is dead. > (pygtk.org forwards to pygobject) > > Last release was 7 years ago. This might explain why no support or > help is available. Decent supposition given the evidence. > Should we start to deprecate GladeVCP?

Re: [Emc-developers] GladeVCP and PyGTK

2018-10-11 Thread Chris Morley
. Chris M From: andy pugh Sent: October 11, 2018 12:54 PM To: EMC developers Subject: [Emc-developers] GladeVCP and PyGTK It looks like PyGTK is dead. (pygtk.org forwards to pygobject) Last release was 7 years ago. This might explain why no support or help

[Emc-developers] GladeVCP and PyGTK

2018-10-11 Thread andy pugh
It looks like PyGTK is dead. (pygtk.org forwards to pygobject) Last release was 7 years ago. This might explain why no support or help is available. Should we start to deprecate GladeVCP? Convert it to PyGoObject? (I am not sure what this means, but Glade itself appears to be