Re: [Emc-developers] Is it still possible to build RTAI debs?

2022-07-07 Thread Alec Ari via Emc-developers
Ayoo, There is no x86_64/amd64 in the kernel, x86 covers both: 64-bit assembly: https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/stable/linux.git/tree/arch/x86/entry/entry_64.S?h=v4.19.251 32-bit:

Re: [Emc-developers] Is it still possible to build RTAI debs?

2022-07-07 Thread andy pugh
On Thu, 7 Jul 2022 at 05:47, Alec Ari wrote: > > Well, this is the kernel changelog: > > https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/stable/linux.git/diff/?id=v4.19.250=v4.19.195=2 Am I missing something? Or are there no changes in arch/amd64 ? -- atp "A motorcycle is a bicycle with a

Re: [Emc-developers] Is it still possible to build RTAI debs?

2022-07-06 Thread Alec Ari via Emc-developers
Well, this is the kernel changelog: https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/stable/linux.git/diff/?id=v4.19.250=v4.19.195=2 3204 files changed, 33867 insertions, 16959 deletions I'll update it and see what happens I guess! Alec ___

Re: [Emc-developers] Is it still possible to build RTAI debs?

2022-07-03 Thread andy pugh
On Sun, 3 Jul 2022 at 02:15, Alec Ari via Emc-developers wrote: > If I update the RTAI tree with the latest 4.19 kernel, would it be worth > anyone's while? Do we have any idea what has changed between 4.19.195 and now? (looks to be 4.19.250) It might be worth experimenting in order to see

Re: [Emc-developers] Is it still possible to build RTAI debs?

2022-07-02 Thread gene heskett
On 7/2/22 21:16, Alec Ari via Emc-developers wrote: Just pinging the thread again, If I update the RTAI tree with the latest 4.19 kernel, would it be worth anyone's while? Thanks, Alec Crickets. I'm probably not qualified to say yay or nay. What I will say is that I built a 4.19 for my pi

Re: [Emc-developers] Is it still possible to build RTAI debs?

2022-07-02 Thread Alec Ari via Emc-developers
Just pinging the thread again, If I update the RTAI tree with the latest 4.19 kernel, would it be worth anyone's while? Thanks, Alec ___ Emc-developers mailing list Emc-developers@lists.sourceforge.net

Re: [Emc-developers] Is it still possible to build RTAI debs?

2022-06-28 Thread Alec Ari via Emc-developers
I just find it odd that you did this yet you're so eager to back-pedal on this decision. Can you share your reasoning, I'm genuinely intrigued. Thanks, Alec On Tuesday, June 28, 2022 at 12:48:05 PM UTC, Jeff Epler wrote: >You stated your preference at the time to not make the change and I

Re: [Emc-developers] Is it still possible to build RTAI debs?

2022-06-28 Thread andy pugh
On Tue, 28 Jun 2022 at 22:30, andy pugh wrote: > Meaningless :-) This is a VM running on my Mac. Anyway, I sorted out the deb problem, and now have a working test system again. Embarrassingly I might well have been installing an old deb. My home folder is quite the mess of debs by now. --

Re: [Emc-developers] Is it still possible to build RTAI debs?

2022-06-28 Thread andy pugh
On Tue, 28 Jun 2022 at 22:28, Jeff Epler wrote: > > That seems like it can work, in that compiling uspace on the rtai > > kernel works, and says "using LXRT realtime" > > Coool! how's the latency in this configuration? Meaningless :-) This is a VM running on my Mac. -- atp "A motorcycle is a

Re: [Emc-developers] Is it still possible to build RTAI debs?

2022-06-28 Thread Jeff Epler
On Tue, Jun 28, 2022 at 09:40:27PM +0100, andy pugh wrote: > On Tue, 28 Jun 2022 at 13:49, Jeff Epler wrote: > > > Personally, I'd hoped the path forward would be using rtai realtime from > > uspace. It means LinuxCNC doesn't require any kernel modules, but > > rather it can run on any

Re: [Emc-developers] Is it still possible to build RTAI debs?

2022-06-28 Thread andy pugh
On Tue, 28 Jun 2022 at 13:49, Jeff Epler wrote: > Personally, I'd hoped the path forward would be using rtai realtime from > uspace. It means LinuxCNC doesn't require any kernel modules, but > rather it can run on any Preempt-RT kernel and also any RTAI kernel > whose userspace API is

Re: [Emc-developers] Is it still possible to build RTAI debs?

2022-06-28 Thread Jeff Epler
On Tue, Jun 28, 2022 at 01:04:29AM +0100, andy pugh wrote: > Trying to address a recent request to add latency-histogram to the > menu, I have attempted to build a .deb > > But my previous recipe (./debian/configure -r ) no longer works. > > All my test machines (at the moment) are running an

Re: [Emc-developers] Is it still possible to build RTAI debs?

2022-06-28 Thread andy pugh
On Tue, 28 Jun 2022 at 12:26, Steffen Möller wrote: > No idea if it is worth the effort, but we can provide an RTAI .deb for > debian-backports-buster I don't think that that is necessary, we can continue to supply the Linuxcnc-rt package and the kernel deb from WLO. It's only really there as

Re: [Emc-developers] Is it still possible to build RTAI debs?

2022-06-28 Thread Steffen Möller
On 28.06.22 11:16, andy pugh wrote: On Tue, 28 Jun 2022 at 02:23, Sebastian Kuzminsky wrote: Since 2.9/master dropped support for all platforms that have packaged RTAI kernel debs on wlo, support for configuring debs for RTAI was removed in commit 6f285604ac1a1b58b2d65d5904ffec3998a833ef.

Re: [Emc-developers] Is it still possible to build RTAI debs?

2022-06-28 Thread andy pugh
On Tue, 28 Jun 2022 at 02:23, Sebastian Kuzminsky wrote: > Since 2.9/master dropped support for all platforms that have packaged > RTAI kernel debs on wlo, support for configuring debs for RTAI was > removed in commit 6f285604ac1a1b58b2d65d5904ffec3998a833ef. There are packaged kernel debs for

Re: [Emc-developers] Is it still possible to build RTAI debs?

2022-06-28 Thread Alec Ari via Emc-developers
I think commit 6f285604ac1a1b58b2d65d5904ffec3998a833ef should be reverted and then andypugh can make new RTAI debs as he is one of our most active RTAI+LinuxCNC users/devs. Andy, I should be able to bump the RTAI kernel to 4.19.249 (or whatever the latest release will be when I get around to

Re: [Emc-developers] Is it still possible to build RTAI debs?

2022-06-27 Thread Sebastian Kuzminsky
On 6/28/22 02:04, andy pugh wrote: Trying to address a recent request to add latency-histogram to the menu, I have attempted to build a .deb But my previous recipe (./debian/configure -r ) no longer works. All my test machines (at the moment) are running an RTAI kernel. Have we actually

[Emc-developers] Is it still possible to build RTAI debs?

2022-06-27 Thread andy pugh
Trying to address a recent request to add latency-histogram to the menu, I have attempted to build a .deb But my previous recipe (./debian/configure -r ) no longer works. All my test machines (at the moment) are running an RTAI kernel. Have we actually abandoned support for this whilst I was