[Emc-developers] Uploading 2.9 to Debian Aw: Re: Bug#1053251: How to fix this bug

2023-10-05 Thread Steffen Möller 
Heyho, I just found https://github.com/LinuxCNC/linuxcnc/releases/tag/v2.9.0 - 
great!
I am literally on a train to towards the LinuxCNC meeting, will wait for Seb to 
declare that he will upload again or the upload myself during the meeting.

> Gesendet: Donnerstag, 05. Oktober 2023 um 14:07 Uhr
> Von: "Rod Webster" 
> An: "EMC developers" 
> Betreff: Re: [Emc-developers] Bug#1053251: How to fix this bug
>
> > So, I tend to think that everything starts with an update of the package in 
> > Debian unstable - this could easily be another pre-releases - just anything 
> > with a tag would do :)
> Please run with this, release 2.9 now and upload to unstable. Then
> getting in the next Debian point release will be a piece of cake (
> maybe coinciding with our own Linuxcnc 2.9.1 point release).
> 
> Rod Webster
> 1300 896 832
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> 
> On Thu, 5 Oct 2023 at 21:05, Steffen Möller  wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > > Gesendet: Donnerstag, 05. Oktober 2023 um 00:35 Uhr
> > > Von: "andy pugh" 
> > > An: "EMC developers" 
> > > Betreff: Re: [Emc-developers] Bug#1053251: How to fix this bug
> > >
> > > On Wed, 4 Oct 2023 at 23:04, Rod Webster  wrote:
> > >
> > > > Andy,
> > > >
> > > > I think this describes the process.
> > > >
> > > > https://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/developers-reference/pkgs.html
> > > >
> > >
> > > Yeah, I hadn't realised that the system sends the question to the
> > > maintainer (so I am in effect asking myself for help...)
> > > I was hoping for some input from the Debian dudes.
> >
> > I have only uploaded to the Debian backports, not to point-update of a 
> > regular release.
> > Am not exactly sure about what to do. For regular backports there is a rule 
> > that anything backported to stable needs to be available on testing, too. I 
> > see the Debian release managers frown upon us if we fix something in a 
> > point release but have that issue untreated in testing and unstable.
> >
> > So, I tend to think that everything starts with an update of the package in 
> > Debian unstable - this could easily be another pre-releases - just anything 
> > with a tag would do :)
> >
> > Steffen
> >
> >
> >
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Re: [Emc-developers] Upcoming stable (12.2) and oldstable (11.8)point releases

2023-10-05 Thread gene heskett 

On 10/5/23 08:01, Rod Webster wrote:

Andy,
Please don't stop now. It's amazing what you've got done in the last week.
I've put many hours into the installers which are both complete and well
tested and waiting for you!

If we could release 2.9 now and get it into unstable, we will be ready to
act for the 12.3 point release
But more importantly with some APT pinning, a 12.2 user could still access
linuxcnc-uspace from the debian repos.
This would be very helpful for Raspberry Pi users because our buildbot is
not building for ARM64.
It would be great if Debian built it for us. The only way they can get an
update now is to build from source.


Which I don't mind as long as it works..

I think all we can do ATM is refer those encountering this bug, is point 
them to a fixed .deb set. Its unfortunate that safety does not seem to 
carry the same priority weight as security at Debian.



I will need to update the getting linuxcnc page after 2.9 is deployed. Hope
we can work around that.


Yes. The build instructions are also a bit dated. For those of us trying 
to do a locally built copy, we have a serious need to be able o select 
the language built, turning off the whole documentation thing isn't the 
best solution, IMO of course.


And many thanks to both Rod and Andy, my Sheldon is running again. 
Latency for uspace is worse but still good enough. Thank you.



Anyway, I for one am cheering you on!

Make it two.


Rod Webster
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On Thu, 5 Oct 2023 at 21:32, Steffen Möller  wrote:





Gesendet: Donnerstag, 05. Oktober 2023 um 13:07 Uhr
Von: "andy pugh" 
An: "EMC developers" 
Betreff: Re: [Emc-developers] Upcoming stable (12.2) and oldstable

(11.8) point releases


On Fri, 1 Sept 2023 at 17:58, Jonathan Wiltshire  wrote:


The next point releases for "bookworm" (12.2) and "bullseye" (11.8)

will

take place on Saturday, October 7th 2023. Processing of new uploads

into

the relevant queues will be frozen the preceding weekend.


I just noticed the last sentence. I have been working 18 hour days to
hit the wrong deadline. It's already too late.


Thank you for this. There will be another one,
https://wiki.debian.org/DebianReleases/PointReleases
says about every two months.

Best,
Steffen


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Re: [Emc-developers] Bug#1053251: How to fix this bug

2023-10-05 Thread Rod Webster 
> So, I tend to think that everything starts with an update of the package in 
> Debian unstable - this could easily be another pre-releases - just anything 
> with a tag would do :)
Please run with this, release 2.9 now and upload to unstable. Then
getting in the next Debian point release will be a piece of cake (
maybe coinciding with our own Linuxcnc 2.9.1 point release).

Rod Webster
1300 896 832
+61 435 765 611
Vehicle Modifications Network
www.vehiclemods.net.au

On Thu, 5 Oct 2023 at 21:05, Steffen Möller  wrote:
>
>
>
> > Gesendet: Donnerstag, 05. Oktober 2023 um 00:35 Uhr
> > Von: "andy pugh" 
> > An: "EMC developers" 
> > Betreff: Re: [Emc-developers] Bug#1053251: How to fix this bug
> >
> > On Wed, 4 Oct 2023 at 23:04, Rod Webster  wrote:
> >
> > > Andy,
> > >
> > > I think this describes the process.
> > >
> > > https://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/developers-reference/pkgs.html
> > >
> >
> > Yeah, I hadn't realised that the system sends the question to the
> > maintainer (so I am in effect asking myself for help...)
> > I was hoping for some input from the Debian dudes.
>
> I have only uploaded to the Debian backports, not to point-update of a 
> regular release.
> Am not exactly sure about what to do. For regular backports there is a rule 
> that anything backported to stable needs to be available on testing, too. I 
> see the Debian release managers frown upon us if we fix something in a point 
> release but have that issue untreated in testing and unstable.
>
> So, I tend to think that everything starts with an update of the package in 
> Debian unstable - this could easily be another pre-releases - just anything 
> with a tag would do :)
>
> Steffen
>
>
>
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Re: [Emc-developers] Upcoming stable (12.2) and oldstable (11.8) point releases

2023-10-05 Thread Rod Webster 
Andy,
Please don't stop now. It's amazing what you've got done in the last week.
I've put many hours into the installers which are both complete and well
tested and waiting for you!

If we could release 2.9 now and get it into unstable, we will be ready to
act for the 12.3 point release
But more importantly with some APT pinning, a 12.2 user could still access
linuxcnc-uspace from the debian repos.
This would be very helpful for Raspberry Pi users because our buildbot is
not building for ARM64.
It would be great if Debian built it for us. The only way they can get an
update now is to build from source.

I will need to update the getting linuxcnc page after 2.9 is deployed. Hope
we can work around that.

Anyway, I for one am cheering you on!

Rod Webster
*1300 896 832*
+61 435 765 611
Vehicle Modifications Network
www.vehiclemods.net.au


On Thu, 5 Oct 2023 at 21:32, Steffen Möller  wrote:

>
>
> > Gesendet: Donnerstag, 05. Oktober 2023 um 13:07 Uhr
> > Von: "andy pugh" 
> > An: "EMC developers" 
> > Betreff: Re: [Emc-developers] Upcoming stable (12.2) and oldstable
> (11.8) point releases
> >
> > On Fri, 1 Sept 2023 at 17:58, Jonathan Wiltshire  wrote:
> > >
> > > The next point releases for "bookworm" (12.2) and "bullseye" (11.8)
> will
> > > take place on Saturday, October 7th 2023. Processing of new uploads
> into
> > > the relevant queues will be frozen the preceding weekend.
> >
> > I just noticed the last sentence. I have been working 18 hour days to
> > hit the wrong deadline. It's already too late.
>
> Thank you for this. There will be another one,
> https://wiki.debian.org/DebianReleases/PointReleases
> says about every two months.
>
> Best,
> Steffen
>
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Re: [Emc-developers] Upcoming stable (12.2) and oldstable (11.8) point releases

2023-10-05 Thread Steffen Möller 



> Gesendet: Donnerstag, 05. Oktober 2023 um 13:07 Uhr
> Von: "andy pugh" 
> An: "EMC developers" 
> Betreff: Re: [Emc-developers] Upcoming stable (12.2) and oldstable (11.8) 
> point releases
>
> On Fri, 1 Sept 2023 at 17:58, Jonathan Wiltshire  wrote:
> >
> > The next point releases for "bookworm" (12.2) and "bullseye" (11.8) will
> > take place on Saturday, October 7th 2023. Processing of new uploads into
> > the relevant queues will be frozen the preceding weekend.
>
> I just noticed the last sentence. I have been working 18 hour days to
> hit the wrong deadline. It's already too late.

Thank you for this. There will be another one,
https://wiki.debian.org/DebianReleases/PointReleases
says about every two months.

Best,
Steffen


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Re: [Emc-developers] Upcoming stable (12.2) and oldstable (11.8) point releases

2023-10-05 Thread andy pugh 
On Fri, 1 Sept 2023 at 17:58, Jonathan Wiltshire  wrote:
>
> The next point releases for "bookworm" (12.2) and "bullseye" (11.8) will
> take place on Saturday, October 7th 2023. Processing of new uploads into
> the relevant queues will be frozen the preceding weekend.

I just noticed the last sentence. I have been working 18 hour days to
hit the wrong deadline. It's already too late.

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Re: [Emc-developers] Bug#1053251: How to fix this bug

2023-10-05 Thread Steffen Möller 



> Gesendet: Donnerstag, 05. Oktober 2023 um 00:35 Uhr
> Von: "andy pugh" 
> An: "EMC developers" 
> Betreff: Re: [Emc-developers] Bug#1053251: How to fix this bug
>
> On Wed, 4 Oct 2023 at 23:04, Rod Webster  wrote:
>
> > Andy,
> >
> > I think this describes the process.
> >
> > https://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/developers-reference/pkgs.html
> >
>
> Yeah, I hadn't realised that the system sends the question to the
> maintainer (so I am in effect asking myself for help...)
> I was hoping for some input from the Debian dudes.

I have only uploaded to the Debian backports, not to point-update of a regular 
release.
Am not exactly sure about what to do. For regular backports there is a rule 
that anything backported to stable needs to be available on testing, too. I see 
the Debian release managers frown upon us if we fix something in a point 
release but have that issue untreated in testing and unstable.

So, I tend to think that everything starts with an update of the package in 
Debian unstable - this could easily be another pre-releases - just anything 
with a tag would do :)

Steffen



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