[Emc-developers] Rejoined the devel list

2012-05-12 Thread gene heskett
Primarily to advise that I tried the non-zero entry in the touch off entry box on my milling machine, also running the latest 2.6.0 beta, with exactly the same results. Enter the value, and hit return or click apply, the new value is displayed in the axis dro readout for perhaps 1/2 second,

Re: [Emc-developers] LinuxCNC, RTAI, and Ubuntu long term support releases

2012-05-17 Thread gene heskett
On Thursday, May 17, 2012 03:56:00 PM andy pugh did opine: On 17 May 2012 14:33, Jan de Kruyf jan.de.kr...@gmail.com wrote: Andy Until we do proper tests: see the OSADL numbers for the various board / cpu setups The Core2Duo system they have looks like it would software-step perfectly

Re: [Emc-developers] LinuxCNC, RTAI, and Ubuntu long term support releases

2012-05-17 Thread gene heskett
On Thursday, May 17, 2012 10:33:42 PM Kent A. Reed did opine: On 5/17/2012 4:18 PM, gene heskett wrote: On Thursday, May 17, 2012 03:56:00 PM andy pugh did opine: On 17 May 2012 14:33, Jan de Kruyfjan.de.kr...@gmail.com wrote: Andy Until we do proper tests: see the OSADL numbers

Re: [Emc-developers] FSMLabs Showcases Breakthrough Fast Real-time Linux for AMD Dual-Core Processors... -- re BOSTON, Embedded Systems Conference, Sept. 12 /PRNewswire/ --

2012-05-22 Thread gene heskett
On Tuesday, May 22, 2012 04:43:44 PM dave did opine: the whole enchilada is at: http://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/fsmlabs-showcases-breakthrough-f ast-real-time-linux-for-amd-dual-core-processors-at-esc-boston-54936777. html Synopsis: Performance Edge - Hard Real-time

Re: [Emc-developers] Emc-developers Digest, Vol 74, Issue 5

2012-06-14 Thread gene heskett
On Friday, June 15, 2012 12:40:27 AM jeremy youngs did opine: hello again gentlemen, I broke down and bought a kit for my steppers and it should arrive tomorrow, great!! 2 yrs of waitng and this thing is finally coming together. I am currently running a 2.5 hp treadmill motor with the

Re: [Emc-developers] Emc-developers Digest, Vol 74, Issue 5

2012-06-15 Thread gene heskett
On Friday, June 15, 2012 05:22:22 PM Jon Elson did opine: gene heskett wrote: Generally speaking, the igbt stuff I have observed has a noticeably slower turnon/turnoff times, which when coupled with their quite a bit higher on resistance, does lead to heat problems. Right, IGBTs don't

Re: [Emc-developers] Emc-developers Digest, Vol 74, Issue 5

2012-06-15 Thread gene heskett
On Friday, June 15, 2012 11:10:42 PM Jon Elson did opine: gene heskett wrote: To start with mosfet/hexfet's have one very non-endearing feature. Because they are effectively the perfect equivalent to a vacuum tube triode, they also share a attribute known as miller effect in the tube

Re: [Emc-developers] Emc-developers Digest, Vol 74, Issue 5

2012-06-16 Thread gene heskett
On Saturday, June 16, 2012 12:17:16 PM John Kasunich did opine: On Fri, Jun 15, 2012, at 11:40 PM, gene heskett wrote: On Friday, June 15, 2012 11:10:42 PM Jon Elson did opine: gene heskett wrote: Your idea of triple chipping the driver is an excellent one, but needs a storage capacitor

Re: [Emc-developers] Emc-developers Digest, Vol 74, Issue 5

2012-06-16 Thread gene heskett
On Saturday, June 16, 2012 06:38:10 PM Jon Elson did opine: gene heskett wrote: Your idea of triple chipping the driver is an excellent one, but needs a storage capacitor directly across the chip(s) supply pins, 2 of pcb trace away won't cut it. Its got to be right there on those 2 pins

Re: [Emc-developers] Emc-developers Digest, Vol 74, Issue 5

2012-06-17 Thread gene heskett
On Sunday, June 17, 2012 03:21:33 AM Jon Elson did opine: gene heskett wrote: Yes, I put a 1 uF cap on the back of the board directly under the driver chip. One for the low-side driver and logic, one for the floating high-side driver. I've been using this general topology since 2004

Re: [Emc-developers] rtai 3.9 out, no support for new linux kernels

2012-07-19 Thread Gene Heskett
On Thursday 19 July 2012 08:00:35 Sebastian Kuzminsky did opine: Latest kernel supported is 2.6.38, no support for Precise's Linux 3.2. http://mail.rtai.org/pipermail/rtai/2012-July/025059.html Paolo says he will be working on that during his summer holiday, or are you reading the same list

Re: [Emc-developers] Some gentle chiding about the cd we use tto install 10.04-4 LTS from.

2012-07-19 Thread Gene Heskett
konversation to run on the machine boxes so I have IRC and can pester the guys from there, and quite a bit more to run kmail on this box. In all cases I am still using gdm as the display manager. On 07/18/2012 09:49 PM, Gene Heskett wrote: Greetings; Kmail upchucked yesterday, from an inability

Re: [Emc-developers] Some gentle chiding about the cd we use tto install 10.04-4 LTS from.

2012-07-20 Thread Gene Heskett
On Friday 20 July 2012 10:55:45 Chris Radek did opine: On Thu, Jul 19, 2012 at 06:22:41PM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: On Thursday 19 July 2012 18:14:28 Moses McKnight did opine: As far as I know you have to install that yourself because it does not come on the Ubuntu liveCD, which

Re: [Emc-developers] potentiometer to the parport

2012-07-25 Thread Gene Heskett
On Wednesday 25 July 2012 10:36:33 ELHIMA Moustapha did opine: Dear All I'm thinking to put a potentiometer on my cnc lathe to control the feedrate, for my machine To control my machine I have just used 2 parports and I have the possibility to use an another one, could you tell me if it's

[Emc-developers] Potential .6.32-122-rtai problem

2012-08-01 Thread Gene Heskett
The reason I say potential is that I actually have NDI where the problem lies. This is the main box in the house, a quad core, but slow 2.1 ghz phenom, with 4 gigs of system ram a loaded pci pcie bus, with a USB tree attached that resembles a weeping willow. It is running an install based

Re: [Emc-developers] Potential .6.32-122-rtai problem

2012-08-01 Thread Gene Heskett
On Wednesday 01 August 2012 11:59:45 Dave Caroline did opine: open a terminal type top I keep htop running full time look what processes are up to do you have a large %wa (waiting on io) ran top, see 0.2%wa occasionally, usually 0.0%wa, string of incoming mail ran it up to 5.4%wa once.

Re: [Emc-developers] Potential .6.32-122-rtai problem

2012-08-01 Thread Gene Heskett
. Eric On Wed, Aug 1, 2012 at 12:14 PM, Gene Heskett ghesk...@wdtv.com wrote: On Wednesday 01 August 2012 11:59:45 Dave Caroline did opine: open a terminal type top I keep htop running full time look what processes are up to do you have a large %wa (waiting on io) ran top

Re: [Emc-developers] future plannig was: LinuxCNC (EMC2) with RCS

2012-08-12 Thread Gene Heskett
On Sunday 12 August 2012 11:21:30 Viesturs Lācis did opine: 2012/8/12 Alexey Starikovskiy aysta...@gmail.com: Dave, right now users of LinuxCNC are mostly insulated from raw HAL editing by stepconf and pncconf. I totally disagree. First of all, I have tried stepconf and pncconf. One time

Re: [Emc-developers] similar but different

2012-08-13 Thread Gene Heskett
On Monday 13 August 2012 12:08:10 jeremy youngs did opine: I am sure my ignorance will show here so please forgive me, whilst we are discussing adaptations of lcnc2 and the direction of 3, are there any thoughts of implementing a 64 bit version? I realize this is not necessary to lcnc

Re: [Emc-developers] similar but different

2012-08-13 Thread Gene Heskett
On Monday 13 August 2012 12:21:03 Alexey Starikovskiy did opine: On 08/13/2012 08:03 PM, jeremy youngs wrote: I am sure my ignorance will show here so please forgive me, whilst we are discussing adaptations of lcnc2 and the direction of 3, are there any thoughts of implementing a 64 bit

Re: [Emc-developers] [ emc-Feature Requests-3558468 ] Tapping for floating holder and no spindle encoder

2012-08-17 Thread Gene Heskett
On Friday 17 August 2012 09:30:45 andy pugh did opine: On 17 August 2012 13:48, Stuart Stevenson stus...@gmail.com wrote: Some tapping heads will release after a set amount of extension of the head components. These heads also self reversed upon axis retraction. This allows the programmer

Re: [Emc-developers] [ emc-Feature Requests-3558468 ] Tapping for floating holder and no spindle encoder

2012-08-17 Thread Gene Heskett
On Friday 17 August 2012 10:41:54 Dave Caroline did opine: On Fri, Aug 17, 2012 at 2:49 PM, Gene Heskett ghesk...@wdtv.com wrote: On Friday 17 August 2012 09:30:45 andy pugh did opine: On 17 August 2012 13:48, Stuart Stevenson stus...@gmail.com wrote: Some tapping heads will release after

Re: [Emc-developers] [ emc-Feature Requests-3558468 ] Tapping for floating holder and no spindle encoder

2012-08-17 Thread Gene Heskett
On Friday 17 August 2012 20:12:35 Jon Elson did opine: On 17 August 2012 15:49, Gene Heskett ghesk...@wdtv.com wrote: Also I believe, it would be valuable to have a discussion of the various offerings, so that I for instance, who might have a need for tapping 40 each 6-32 to 10-32 holes

Re: [Emc-developers] [ emc-Feature Requests-3558468 ] Tapping for floating holder and no spindle encoder

2012-08-18 Thread Gene Heskett
On Saturday 18 August 2012 09:46:26 Kenneth Lerman did opine: [...] I have done quite a few 6-32 holes in 7078-T6 but can't claim a lot of experience in tapping the common alu stock sold at Lowes/TSC, its pretty soft. ISTR the last batch of 4-40's I tapped about 3/8 deep, blind, took

Re: [Emc-developers] [ emc-Feature Requests-3558468 ] Tapping for floating holder and no spindle encoder

2012-08-18 Thread Gene Heskett
On Saturday 18 August 2012 19:12:06 John Kasunich did opine: On Sat, Aug 18, 2012, at 10:59 AM, Kenneth Lerman wrote: On 8/18/2012 9:49 AM, Gene Heskett wrote: On Saturday 18 August 2012 09:46:26 Kenneth Lerman did opine: [...] I have done quite a few 6-32 holes in 7078-T6

Re: [Emc-developers] The Last Public Domain Version

2012-08-22 Thread Gene Heskett
On Wednesday 22 August 2012 19:50:10 Kenneth Lerman did opine: On 8/22/2012 12:07 PM, Matt Shaver wrote: On Sun, 12 Aug 2012 01:40:06 +0300 Alex Joni alex.j...@robcon.ro wrote: Last emc1 version was 1.2.0-rc1 iirc, you can still find the CVS tree for emc1 here:

Re: [Emc-developers] RFC: cleaning up linuxcnc.in to support HAL+GladeVCP only configs (and then some)

2012-08-26 Thread Gene Heskett
26.08.2012 um 08:24 schrieb Gene Heskett: On Sunday 26 August 2012 02:06:08 Michael Haberler did opine: Am 26.08.2012 um 01:11 schrieb Chris Morley: 3. ALL guis, not just Axis, need to eventually learn how to start a POSTGUI_HALFILE if there is any chance itself or a subprocess creates

Re: [Emc-developers] [ emc-Feature Requests-3558468 ] Tapping for floating holder and no spindle encoder

2012-08-27 Thread Gene Heskett
On Monday 27 August 2012 19:19:02 Jon Elson did opine: Gene Heskett wrote: But, I have done a lot of 10-32, 4-40 and 2-56 tapping in aluminum. I use alum-tap with is a fantastic tapping fluid. I've been meaning to get some of that, I keep forgetting it when I'm on the phone ordering

Re: [Emc-developers] anybody running LinuxCNC with the RT_PREEMPT patch?

2012-08-28 Thread Gene Heskett
On Tuesday 28 August 2012 03:09:29 Lars Segerlund did opine: No I don't think I can run userspace code unmodified in rt-preempt, but it's not a module either. What you need is rt-specific code, but it can be run as a user as long as the privileges are set properly and priorities. The

Re: [Emc-developers] LinuxCNC RT OS underpinnings

2012-08-28 Thread Gene Heskett
On Tuesday 28 August 2012 16:00:29 Lars Segerlund did opine: Actually, for the debian rt-preempt there is an apt repo to add all of rt-preempt is not mainlined yet, but it's the goal. But I have been running an rt-preempt kernel on my laptop for a while, and quite arguably it doesn't

Re: [Emc-developers] [ emc-Feature Requests-3558468 ] Tapping for floating holder and no spindle encoder

2012-08-28 Thread Gene Heskett
On Tuesday 28 August 2012 16:20:25 andy pugh did opine: On 28 August 2012 09:07, Gene Heskett ghesk...@wdtv.com wrote: eventually that 10-32 rack will at some point in rebuilding the facility, see a 12-24 tap in a reversible drill applied to every hole in it just to remove the aggravation

Re: [Emc-developers] [ emc-Feature Requests-3558468 ] Tapping for floating holder and no spindle encoder

2012-08-28 Thread Gene Heskett
On Tuesday 28 August 2012 16:38:04 Jon Elson did opine: Gene Heskett wrote: Throw in that in the typical BC facility, the 10-32 racks often have damaged threads because the crap we hang on a 10-32 is too much for the screw, All our racks at work have clip-on nuts, so if you mangle one

Re: [Emc-developers] LinuxCNC RT OS underpinnings

2012-08-28 Thread Gene Heskett
On Tuesday 28 August 2012 17:05:59 Kent A. Reed did opine: On 8/28/2012 3:04 PM, Dave wrote: On 8/28/2012 2:46 PM, andy pugh wrote: On 28 August 2012 08:50, Michael Haberlermai...@mah.priv.at wrote: I said: the LinuxCNC project needs an *alternative* realtime kernel which runs on every

Re: [Emc-developers] LinuxCNC RT OS underpinnings

2012-08-28 Thread Gene Heskett
On Tuesday 28 August 2012 17:16:39 dave did opine: On Tue, 2012-08-28 at 22:12 +0300, Viesturs Lؤپcis wrote: 2012/8/28 Dave e...@dc9.tzo.com: On 8/28/2012 2:46 PM, andy pugh wrote: On 28 August 2012 08:50, Michael Haberlermai...@mah.priv.at wrote: I said: the LinuxCNC project needs

Re: [Emc-developers] AVR Chips, RepRap, and LinuxCNC

2012-08-29 Thread Gene Heskett
On Wednesday 29 August 2012 19:36:52 EBo did opine: On Wed, 29 Aug 2012 23:47:31 +0100, andy pugh wrote: On 29 August 2012 23:42, EBo e...@sandien.com wrote: Could you tell us more about your driver and why you put it in the Mesa firmware section? I am not sure I understand the

Re: [Emc-developers] Introducing myself...

2012-08-30 Thread Gene Heskett
On Thursday 30 August 2012 11:34:49 EBo did opine: On Thu, 30 Aug 2012 08:32:48 + (UTC), Jiri Kastner wrote: just for inspiration: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Precision_Time_Protocol http://www.nist.gov/el/isd/ieee/ieee1588.cfm http://ptpd.sourceforge.net/ some low

Re: [Emc-developers] Introducing myself...

2012-08-30 Thread Gene Heskett
On Thursday 30 August 2012 18:25:01 EBo did opine: On Thu, 30 Aug 2012 11:36:41 -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: On Thursday 30 August 2012 11:34:49 EBo did opine: Personally I would not touch Broadcom with a 10' Mongolian. They have the WORST Linux support in the world... Even

Re: [Emc-developers] sim-parport

2012-09-05 Thread Gene Heskett
On Wednesday 05 September 2012 10:48:43 Kent A. Reed did opine: On 9/5/2012 12:26 AM, Chris Morley wrote: I'm not sure what the right answer is here. Putting this experimental driver into master makes it easily accessible to folks like me who forget Michael's git hub but at the same time

Re: [Emc-developers] [ emc-Bugs-3563795 ] Positional drift when probing

2012-09-11 Thread Gene Heskett
On Tuesday 11 September 2012 11:46:15 SourceForge.net did opine: Bugs item #3563795, was opened at 2012-08-31 11:13 Message generated for change (Comment added) made by You can respond by visiting: https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detailatid=106744aid=3563795gro up_id=6744 Please

Re: [Emc-developers] Q: do HAL signals exist independently of components yes/no?

2012-09-19 Thread Gene Heskett
On Wednesday 19 September 2012 20:44:30 Kenneth Lerman did opine: On 9/19/2012 9:16 AM, John Kasunich wrote: I think this bug is actually a special case that doesn't matter much for real systems. The fix seems dangerous, but let me explain how I see it. I agree that signals aren't

Re: [Emc-developers] A request for an enhancement

2012-09-25 Thread Gene Heskett
like the 'call' which does 'setsubpath' which actually does this specifying of SUBROUTINE_PATH might make more sense? Am 25.09.2012 um 04:09 schrieb Gene Heskett: Greetings all; The last time I tried to see if I could put all the files for a given project in its own subdir of nc_files, I

Re: [Emc-developers] A request for an enhancement

2012-09-25 Thread Gene Heskett
On Tuesday 25 September 2012 23:19:31 Sebastian Kuzminsky did opine: On Sep 25, 2012, at 09:42 , Kent A. Reed wrote: I like Gene's second approach because it doesn't require the author of a G-code routine to know anything about the directory structure the code may end up in; e.g., the

Re: [Emc-developers] A request for an enhancement

2012-09-25 Thread Gene Heskett
On Tuesday 25 September 2012 23:21:30 Michael Haberler did opine: Am 25.09.2012 um 18:34 schrieb Sebastian Kuzminsky: On Sep 25, 2012, at 09:42 , Kent A. Reed wrote: I like Gene's second approach because it doesn't require the author of a G-code routine to know anything about the directory

Re: [Emc-developers] A request for an enhancement

2012-09-26 Thread Gene Heskett
On Wednesday 26 September 2012 08:19:27 Michael Haberler did opine: Am 26.09.2012 um 05:22 schrieb Gene Heskett: On Tuesday 25 September 2012 23:21:30 Michael Haberler did opine: Am 25.09.2012 um 18:34 schrieb Sebastian Kuzminsky: On Sep 25, 2012, at 09:42 , Kent A. Reed wrote: I like

Re: [Emc-developers] [ emc-Feature Requests-3571903 ] new named subroutine search order needed

2012-09-26 Thread Gene Heskett
: No Submitted By: Gene Heskett (gheskett) Assigned to: Nobody/Anonymous (nobody) Summary: new named subroutine search order needed Initial Comment: Persuant to a discussion on the -devel list, it seems we need a named subroutine search function that first searches the directory the current gcode

Re: [Emc-developers] [ emc-Feature Requests-3571903 ] new named subroutine search order needed

2012-09-26 Thread Gene Heskett
On Wednesday 26 September 2012 12:17:47 Michael Haberler did opine: Am 26.09.2012 um 17:52 schrieb Gene Heskett: On Wednesday 26 September 2012 11:43:26 SourceForge.net did opine: Feature Requests item #3571903, was opened at 2012-09-26 05:16 Message generated for change (Comment added

Re: [Emc-developers] locale.h

2012-10-03 Thread Gene Heskett
On Wednesday 03 October 2012 14:40:23 Sebastian Kuzminsky did opine: On Oct 3, 2012, at 12:19 , andy pugh wrote: On 3 October 2012 18:35, Sebastian Kuzminsky s...@highlab.com wrote: Wait, you're going to pass locale information into the kernel via HAL? Only a choice of decimal

Re: [Emc-developers] where does RTAPI_MSG_INFO messages go?

2012-10-10 Thread Gene Heskett
On Thursday 11 October 2012 00:28:39 Jon Elson did opine: Hi, I just pulled in the latest master and made a slight change to the message output from src/hal/drivers/hal_ppmc.c, and I am trying to see the messages from the rtapi_print_msg(RTAPI_MSG_INFO ... but I have no idea where these

Re: [Emc-developers] Preview: LinuxCNC 2.5 on Xenomai

2012-11-01 Thread Gene Heskett
On Thursday 01 November 2012 11:25:45 Michael Haberler did opine: I got LinuxCNC 2.5 to run on an x86 with Xenomai kernel threads, by replacing RTAI calls by their Xenomai equivalents. Initial results look promising. This is still unpolished and not ready for a merge yet - I'm publishing

Re: [Emc-developers] Preview: LinuxCNC 2.5 on Xenomai - part 2

2012-11-02 Thread Gene Heskett
On Friday 02 November 2012 11:19:38 Kent A. Reed did opine: On 11/2/2012 5:18 AM, Michael Haberler wrote: I added this: Verify initrd has been created -- The lucid dpkg friends tools are very outdated, and fail to create an initramfs after the above

Re: [Emc-developers] ferror calculation incorrect in motion

2012-11-02 Thread Gene Heskett
On Friday 02 November 2012 11:44:04 Jon Elson did opine: On 11/01/2012 12:25 PM, Stuart Stevenson wrote: Gentlemen, What is ferror used for in motion or any calculation? I thought it was only for human feedback during the tuning phase. It is used to stop motion when the

Re: [Emc-developers] ferror calculation incorrect in motion

2012-11-02 Thread Gene Heskett
On Friday 02 November 2012 15:13:07 Peter C. Wallace did opine: On Fri, 2 Nov 2012, Gene Heskett wrote: Date: Fri, 2 Nov 2012 12:07:45 -0400 From: Gene Heskett ghesk...@wdtv.com Reply-To: EMC developers emc-developers@lists.sourceforge.net To: emc-developers@lists.sourceforge.net

Re: [Emc-developers] Preview: LinuxCNC 2.5 single codebase - supports RTAI, RT_PREEMPT, Xenomai-kernel, Xenomai-User, Simulator

2012-11-02 Thread Gene Heskett
On Friday 02 November 2012 18:22:25 Kent A. Reed did opine: On 11/2/2012 11:18 AM, Michael Haberler wrote: I have now integrated the RT-PREEMPT branch as provided by Charles, added the now-working Xenomai-userland thread style, and massaged configure to deal with all of this. The

Re: [Emc-developers] libqt4-dbus, was Preview: LinuxCNC 2.5 on Xenomai - part 2

2012-11-02 Thread Gene Heskett
On Friday 02 November 2012 20:54:40 Kent A. Reed did opine: On 11/2/2012 11:42 AM, Gene Heskett wrote: Here, it may come even quicker. Some update in the last week has broken libqt4-dbus, and from my googling last night, it appears to be a common 12.04 problem, AND according to apt-get's

Re: [Emc-developers] Gladevcp+HAL standalone applications on Raspberry Pi: works

2012-11-21 Thread Gene Heskett
On Wednesday 21 November 2012 16:14:24 Michael Haberler did opine: Bas, Am 21.11.2012 um 18:49 schrieb Bas Laarhoven: On 20-11-2012 20:54, Michael Haberler wrote: I dont want to curb your hopes too much, but I said 'GladeVCP+HAL standalone applications' and meant to say 'HAL only' -

Re: [Emc-developers] formal analysis [was: xenomai + linuxcnc on 12.04LTS]

2012-12-05 Thread Gene Heskett
On Wednesday 05 December 2012 06:02:20 EBo did opine: On Dec 5 2012 2:16 AM, EBo wrote: On Dec 4 2012 9:06 AM, Kent A. Reed wrote: In addition to latency-test there is a script called latencyplot that possibly could give some insight. I have spent time staring at the rolling plot

Re: [Emc-developers] formal analysis [was: xenomai + linuxcnc on 12.04LTS]

2012-12-05 Thread Gene Heskett
On Wednesday 05 December 2012 07:17:44 andy pugh did opine: On 5 December 2012 11:06, Gene Heskett ghesk...@wdtv.com wrote: This brought up a renewed desire to let latencyplot run for a few hours, but it took 10 minutes worth of cleanup with rmmod to get rid of the leftovers from the last

Re: [Emc-developers] formal analysis [was: xenomai + linuxcnc on 12.04LTS]

2012-12-05 Thread Gene Heskett
On Wednesday 05 December 2012 09:12:18 Lars Segerlund did opine: Have you tuned the machine ? govenor = performance, swappiness and so on ? SO that there is no frequency scaling running ... or similar ? This is the 10.04.4 LTS, installed from the linuxcnc cd. 2012/12/5 Gene Heskett ghesk

Re: [Emc-developers] formal analysis [was: xenomai + linuxcnc on 12.04LTS]

2012-12-05 Thread Gene Heskett
On Wednesday 05 December 2012 09:13:54 andy pugh did opine: On 5 December 2012 12:20, Gene Heskett ghesk...@wdtv.com wrote: I often see this sort of trouble when I crash RTAPI. Rebooting the PC is the easiest way to clean up. rmmod all the rtai stuff and it will run again. If rmmod

Re: [Emc-developers] latency histogram comp

2012-12-06 Thread Gene Heskett
On Thursday 06 December 2012 10:44:53 Kent A. Reed did opine: On 12/6/2012 9:15 AM, EBo wrote: ... From that I can see that there is a small group of outliers at ±20us. From this information we might be able to look at the traces to see what is happening around those events and

Re: [Emc-developers] latency histogram comp

2012-12-06 Thread Gene Heskett
On Thursday 06 December 2012 14:38:54 Michael Haberler did opine: Gene, just curious on your method: Am 06.12.2012 um 17:14 schrieb Gene Heskett: Chuckle.. NP Kent, but I would point out that it only takes one out-lier of an extra 50 u-s, in a 25 u-s loop, to cause a stepper stall

Re: [Emc-developers] latency histogram comp

2012-12-06 Thread Gene Heskett
On Thursday 06 December 2012 21:24:20 Michael Haberler did opine: Am 07.12.2012 um 02:09 schrieb Gene Heskett: On Thursday 06 December 2012 19:50:33 Michael Haberler did opine: How did you determine a) the stepper stalled (for how many steps?) and b) actually the cause was the delay you

Re: [Emc-developers] latency histogram comp

2012-12-06 Thread Gene Heskett
On Thursday 06 December 2012 22:52:27 Jon Elson did opine: Michael Haberler wrote: sorry for what maybe sounds like a dumb question, but having read the Proctor/Shackleford paper on the influence of jitter on steppers which basically say: all it causes is a loss of torque on the order of

Re: [Emc-developers] latency histogram comp

2012-12-07 Thread Gene Heskett
On Friday 07 December 2012 11:04:27 Steve Stallings did opine: normally a top poster here, but will try to insert my comments in a rational place below. -Original Message- From: Michael Haberler [mailto:mai...@mah.priv.at] Sent: Friday, December 07, 2012 3:22 AM To:

Re: [Emc-developers] xenomai on beaglebone : working 3.2.21 kernel running Ubuntu precise, latency

2012-12-07 Thread Gene Heskett
On Friday 07 December 2012 14:05:13 Jon Elson did opine: Michael Haberler wrote: it's the latency test which comes with the xenomai userland support; note this is for idle CPU running a compile over NFS this creeps up to 30ish max/55worse while still being around 12 average Well,

Re: [Emc-developers] latency histogram comp

2012-12-07 Thread Gene Heskett
On Friday 07 December 2012 14:42:34 Jon Elson did opine: Gene Heskett wrote: This is quite informative Steve, thanks. It also sends a rather powerful message that we really ought to consider that step generation is a hardware job. Well, I've always thought so, and I hope that isn't

Re: [Emc-developers] xenomai on beaglebone : working 3.2.21 kernelrunning Ubuntu precise, latency

2012-12-07 Thread Gene Heskett
On Friday 07 December 2012 15:44:25 Steve Stallings did opine: The propeller works well for generating the steps. It works less well at communicating with a host if all comms would be consolidated in a single core for communication with the host. There are no hardware

Re: [Emc-developers] latency histogram comp

2012-12-07 Thread Gene Heskett
On Friday 07 December 2012 23:12:52 Jon Elson did opine: Gene Heskett wrote: Those too are valid questions, with very iffy answers for the hobbiest like me. The improvement probably would be appreciated, but in nearly 10 years of having the basic machinery, I have only re-couped maybe

Re: [Emc-developers] a speed sensitive lowpass or averaging filter

2012-12-08 Thread Gene Heskett
On Saturday 08 December 2012 21:35:41 andy pugh did opine: On 9 December 2012 01:55, Gene Heskett ghesk...@wdtv.com wrote: But I keep thinking in terms of using a gain of .25 in order to blend the passing of 4 edges of the quadrature input and average out the mechanical wibbles that get us

Re: [Emc-developers] PID tuning, Zeigler-Nichols method

2012-12-11 Thread Gene Heskett
would be great to have. How about an FFT too? Noel R. 'Roguish -Original Message- From: Gene Heskett [mailto:ghesk...@wdtv.com] Sent: Sunday, December 09, 2012 4:40 PM To: EMC developers Subject: [Emc-developers] PID tuning, Zeigler-Nichols method Greetings; I haven't

Re: [Emc-developers] PID tuning, Zeigler-Nichols method

2012-12-11 Thread Gene Heskett
On Tuesday 11 December 2012 13:25:35 Jon Elson did opine: Gene Heskett wrote: On Monday 10 December 2012 23:07:29 noel did opine: For a little information on tuning see this http://support.motioneng.com/Downloads-Notes/Tuning/default.htm Not sure if any of this is of any use unless you

Re: [Emc-developers] Spindle speed display, green progress bar type

2012-12-13 Thread Gene Heskett
On Thursday 13 December 2012 09:26:24 John Morris did opine: On 12/11/2012 09:15 PM, Gene Heskett wrote: Greetings all; I had something on the mill that said what was requested and that it was 'at speed', but that was 3 or 4 years ago and just made the assumptions I believe as I don't

Re: [Emc-developers] Spindle speed display, green progress bar type

2012-12-13 Thread Gene Heskett
On Thursday 13 December 2012 11:01:49 Charles Steinkuehler did opine: On 12/13/2012 8:28 AM, Gene Heskett wrote: On Thursday 13 December 2012 09:26:24 John Morris did opine: On 12/11/2012 09:15 PM, Gene Heskett wrote: Greetings all; I had something on the mill that said what

[Emc-developers] Something has a tummy ache, 2 subjects actually

2012-12-15 Thread Gene Heskett
2012 by Gene Heskett loadrt trivkins loadrt [EMCMOT]EMCMOT base_period_nsec=[EMCMOT]BASE_PERIOD servo_period_nsec=[EMCMOT]SERVO_PERIOD num_joints=[TRAJ]AXES loadrt probe_parport loadrt hal_parport cfg=0x378 out setpparport.0.reset-time1300 loadrt encoder

Re: [Emc-developers] Something has a tummy ache, 2 subjects actually

2012-12-15 Thread Gene Heskett
On Saturday 15 December 2012 18:07:57 andy pugh did opine: On 15 December 2012 22:38, Gene Heskett ghesk...@wdtv.com wrote: On the reboot, update-manager updated both the linuxcnc and the freecad installs, and it seems now stuck in the above state. What version of LinuxCNC are you

Re: [Emc-developers] Something has a tummy ache, 2 subjects actually

2012-12-16 Thread Gene Heskett
On Sunday 16 December 2012 06:44:13 Michael Haberler did opine: Gene, I dont think it's the HAL file (gut feeling) - could be any number of reasons, see below: Am 15.12.2012 um 23:38 schrieb Gene Heskett: Greetings; I have a startup error that doesn't make any sense to me

Re: [Emc-developers] Something has a tummy ache, 2 subjects actually

2012-12-16 Thread Gene Heskett
On Sunday 16 December 2012 08:03:51 andy pugh did opine: On 16 December 2012 12:04, Gene Heskett ghesk...@wdtv.com wrote: I've been playing, getting rid of any setp's that referenced a normal input pin, No need to do that, it is perfectly normal and expected behaviour. Great

Re: [Emc-developers] Something has a tummy ache, 2 subjects actually

2012-12-16 Thread Gene Heskett
On Sunday 16 December 2012 15:17:03 Michael Haberler did opine: [huge snip] Since it seems to be /usr/bin/milltask that is the likely suspect, some data on my installed version: gene@lathe:~/linuxcnc/configs/my-lathe$ ls -l /usr/bin/milltask -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 385484 2012-12-15 18:32

Re: [Emc-developers] Something has a tummy ache, 2 subjects actually

2012-12-16 Thread Gene Heskett
On Sunday 16 December 2012 16:31:23 andy pugh did opine: On 16 December 2012 20:40, Gene Heskett ghesk...@wdtv.com wrote: Next? Try one of the demo configs. Believe it or not nist-lathe runs, as in doesn't take the first off ramp. But won't run, or home because it thinks all the limit

Re: [Emc-developers] [Solved I think] Something has a tummy ache, 2 subjects actually

2012-12-16 Thread Gene Heskett
On Sunday 16 December 2012 17:08:31 Gene Heskett did opine: On Sunday 16 December 2012 16:31:23 andy pugh did opine: On 16 December 2012 20:40, Gene Heskett ghesk...@wdtv.com wrote: Next? Try one of the demo configs. Believe it or not nist-lathe runs, as in doesn't take the first

Re: [Emc-developers] [Solved I think] Something has a tummy ache, 2 subjects actually

2012-12-16 Thread Gene Heskett
On Sunday 16 December 2012 18:48:56 andy pugh did opine: On 16 December 2012 22:36, Gene Heskett ghesk...@wdtv.com wrote: Now, hopefully, I can go back to figuring out how to deal with a motor controller whose input sensitivity curve is a Cast Iron Bitch. Is it definitely the controller

Re: [Emc-developers] [Solved I think] Something has a tummy ache, 2 subjects actually

2012-12-16 Thread Gene Heskett
On Sunday 16 December 2012 21:15:17 andy pugh did opine: On 17 December 2012 00:28, Gene Heskett ghesk...@wdtv.com wrote: I can carve code in assembly or in the C we have on a 6309 or 6809 cpu running Nitros9, Actually, that's probably quite a good basis for writing HAL components. HAL

Re: [Emc-developers] [Solved I think] Something has a tummy ache, 2 subjects actually

2012-12-17 Thread Gene Heskett
On Monday 17 December 2012 07:54:03 andy pugh did opine: On 17 December 2012 02:59, Gene Heskett ghesk...@wdtv.com wrote: The math I was able to find seems complex, some of it might even have had a very time consuming power series. I don't think we have, in a millisecond time frame

Re: [Emc-developers] [Solved I think] Something has a tummy ache, 2 subjects actually

2012-12-17 Thread Gene Heskett
On Monday 17 December 2012 09:00:41 John Kasunich did opine: On Mon, Dec 17, 2012, at 08:15 AM, Gene Heskett wrote: One question re optimizing hal: Is the servo-thread execution sequence the same as the addf statements order? By default, yes. You can follow each addf with a number

Re: [Emc-developers] Something has a tummy ache, 2 subjects actually

2012-12-17 Thread Gene Heskett
On Monday 17 December 2012 09:02:41 Victor Rocco did opine: -Mensaje original- De: Gene Heskett [mailto:ghesk...@wdtv.com] Enviado el: Sأ،bado, 15 de Diciembre de 2012 07:39 p.m. Para: EMC developers Asunto: [Emc-developers] Something has a tummy ache, 2 subjects actually

[Emc-developers] To Sebastion K.

2012-12-17 Thread Gene Heskett
Greetings; gene@lathe:~$ sudo apt-get install gdb [sudo] password for gene: Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree Reading state information... Done gdb is already the newest version. The following packages were automatically installed and are no longer required:

[Emc-developers] Servo Q

2012-12-17 Thread Gene Heskett
Greetings; I am at my wits end with this controller, and am now ready to throw more money at it. Specifically a Pico 20A, line powered pwm servo driver. But its drive requirements would appear to tax our pwmgen rather mightily as it needs a minimum of a 25 kilohertz drive signal, at 12

Re: [Emc-developers] Servo Q

2012-12-17 Thread Gene Heskett
On Monday 17 December 2012 21:12:02 andy pugh did opine: On 17 December 2012 23:39, Gene Heskett ghesk...@wdtv.com wrote: I am at my wits end with this controller, and am now ready to throw more money at it. What is the problem? What are you trying to achieve? Stable, suitably stiff

Re: [Emc-developers] Servo Q

2012-12-18 Thread Gene Heskett
On Tuesday 18 December 2012 18:24:20 Steve Stallings did opine: -Original Message- From: Gene Heskett [mailto:ghesk...@wdtv.com] Sent: Monday, December 17, 2012 10:14 PM To: emc-developers@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [Emc-developers] Servo Q On Monday 17 December

Re: [Emc-developers] [Solved I think] Something has a tummy ache, 2 subjects actually

2012-12-18 Thread Gene Heskett
On Tuesday 18 December 2012 19:08:42 andy pugh did opine: On 16 December 2012 22:46, andy pugh bodge...@gmail.com wrote: It wouldn't be all that hard to make a linearisation curve component. And it wasn't. Put the following in a text file called lincurve.comp then sudo comp --install

Re: [Emc-developers] [Solved I think] Something has a tummy ache, 2 subjects actually

2012-12-18 Thread Gene Heskett
On Tuesday 18 December 2012 19:47:59 andy pugh did opine: On 19 December 2012 00:16, Gene Heskett ghesk...@wdtv.com wrote: lincurve.comp then sudo comp --install lincurve.comp. Please put this into the hal repo andy, I think it can be very useful indeed. I think it will need some man

Re: [Emc-developers] Error when jogging axes in teleop mode

2012-12-22 Thread Gene Heskett
On Saturday 22 December 2012 08:03:33 andy pugh did opine: On 21 December 2012 17:04, Lisandro Massera lisandromass...@hotmail.com wrote: Is there any problem using the abs() function in a real time module? abs() is an integer function. Mmmm, according to my man 9 abs, its a float. And

Re: [Emc-developers] my thanks

2012-12-23 Thread Gene Heskett
On Sunday 23 December 2012 14:49:31 Kent A. Reed did opine: Gentle persons: Now that we have survived the great non-event of 2012, the end of the Mayan Calendar (something the descendents of the Mayans claim is totally misrepresented by us European descendents) and see the sun still comes

Re: [Emc-developers] PID tuning, Zeigler-Nichols method

2013-01-06 Thread Gene Heskett
On Sunday 06 January 2013 16:05:36 Dave Engvall did opine: Message additions Copyright Sunday 06 January 2013 by Gene Heskett On Jan 6, 2013, at 10:16 AM, Joachim Franek wrote: On Sunday 09 December 2012 17:50:22 dave wrote: Zu hilfe! Zu hilfe! Zu hilfe! Hier ist die Hilfe. Have

[Emc-developers] Question re motion.probe-input

2013-01-10 Thread Gene Heskett
Greetings; There is a motion.backlash-vel output available, looks like a float. + or - number dependent on the direction. I am thinking that I could feed this float into a comp(are) module, and use its output to disable high, the motion.probe-input for the duration of the backlash move, or

[Emc-developers] LinuxCNC crash

2013-01-12 Thread Gene Heskett
Greetings; I had another crash yesterday morning as I was quiting linuxcnc, from the pulldown menu, while I was ssh -Y'd into the machine. It did not auto reboot, so I went out and held the reset button down for a few seconds. It did an fsck (apparently clean) on the reboot, then did a full

Re: [Emc-developers] proposed patch for v2.5_branch: correct ferror calculation

2013-01-12 Thread Gene Heskett
On Saturday 12 January 2013 17:28:23 Chris Radek did opine: Message additions Copyright Saturday 12 January 2013 by Gene Heskett On Wed, Jan 09, 2013 at 08:13:05AM +0100, Michael Haberler wrote: motion has an issue with ferror calculation: I've studied this some more and disagree

Re: [Emc-developers] OT- home again, home again

2013-01-13 Thread Gene Heskett
On Sunday 13 January 2013 17:20:35 dave did opine: Message additions Copyright Sunday 13 January 2013 by Gene Heskett .forget the jiggity-jog. :-) There is nothing like getting things fixed and then getting out of the hospital as soon as possible. Surgeon was really good. 3 small

Re: [Emc-developers] LinuxCNC WebGL interface

2013-01-13 Thread Gene Heskett
On Sunday 13 January 2013 17:22:39 Tom Easterday did opine: Message additions Copyright Sunday 13 January 2013 by Gene Heskett What do you mean by preview/progress display exactly? Are you talking about showing machine status only (no control) within a web browser? That is (very roughly

[Emc-developers] Touch probe to calibrate a lathe

2013-01-13 Thread Gene Heskett
Greetings all; Using the g38.2 on a lathe for a potential auto-zero turned out to be a lot more painful that it was on my mill, so here is a blow by blow that at some point I'd like to see in the wiki in case someone else has to re-invent this contraption. Background: I made a gage out of

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