RE: 90V 47Hz - Is this a realistic combo

1999-11-04 Thread Naftali Shani
I'll second the experience with 85 Volts design target, which can be very common. The normal business practice for Japan (at least 8+ years ago) was to turn off power to an office complex Friday night, turn it back on Monday morning - this was shown as a huge dip on the distribution network, not

RE: 90V 47Hz - Is this a realistic combo

1999-11-04 Thread Mark Schmidt
Eastern Japan Voltage 100 Vac @ 50Hz. (Tokyo, Kawasaki, Sapporo, Yokohoma and Sebdai) Western Japan Voltage 100 Vac @ 60Hz. (Osaka, Kyoto, Nagoya, Hiroshima) I also agree with Tania and the brown-out conditions that exist in Japan. It is my understanding that 90 Vac is quite common,

RE: 90V 47Hz - Is this a realistic combo

1999-11-04 Thread Bl Ma
Mark, Please pardon my ignorance. I have a silly question. It seems to me that the purpose of brownout is to save energy by reducing voltage. Why do you test your power supply down to 85 Vac at 50/60 Hz at the maximum specified operating temperature with high humidity conditions present instead

RE: 90V 47Hz - Is this a realistic combo

1999-11-04 Thread Mark Schmidt
Barry, Brownout is a fault condition. Alot of switching supplies operate in a range of 100 - 240 Vac 50/60 Hz. Supply Manufacturers usually specify operating temp and humidity conditions. So start by testing the Manufacturers own specification. 106 Vac already falls into the specified range.

RE: 90V 47Hz - Is this a realistic combo

1999-11-04 Thread bma
Sorry, I just forgot inputting the subject. -- Original Text -- From: Bailin Ma@MMDILAB@ACUS, on 11/4/99 1:28 PM: Scott, Thank you very much. Barry -- From: Lacey,Scott sla...@foxboro.com, Date: Thu, 4 Nov 1999 14:52:57 -0500 Barry, In a

Re: 90V 47Hz - Is this a realistic combo

1999-11-04 Thread Ken Javor
Disagree. A switched mode power supply (SMPS) will draw more current at low bus potential to provide constant load output power. -- From: Bl Ma mbl...@yahoo.com To: mschm...@xrite.com Cc: EMC/PS IEEE Group emc-p...@ieee.org Subject: RE: 90V 47Hz - Is this a realistic combo Date: Thu,

Re: Conductive Coating

1999-11-04 Thread Ken Javor
With regards to the question at end of Macy's e-mail. Count the number of squares between probe points. Say the probes are 2 apart. If the surface containing the two points is at least 2 wide, then it only takes one square, and the resistance measured is numerically equal to the ohms/square.

RE: Fans; m3/h to CFM

1999-11-04 Thread Gorodetsky, Vitaly
The recent loss/disaster in space surprises me no longer -Original Message- From: Andrews, Kurt [SMTP:kandr...@tracewell.com] Sent: Thursday, November 04, 1999 10:24 AM To: pmerguer...@itl.co.il; emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org Subject: RE: Fans; m3/h to CFM Peter, 1ft.

Re: Fans; m3/h to CFM

1999-11-04 Thread Ken Javor
1m^3/ 1 hr * 1hr/60 min * (39.37 in)^3/1m^3 * (1 ft)^3/(12 in)^3 = 0.5886 cubic feet/minute. Check me out gentlemen. I work for NASA. You don't want your fan crash landing on Mars! -- From: pmerguer...@itl.co.il (Peter Merguerian) To: emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org Subject: Fans; m3/h

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1999-11-04 Thread Bert Chan
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RE: Emission / Enclosure

1999-11-04 Thread Grasso, Charles (Chaz)
Ken, agreed -Original Message- From: Ken Javor [mailto:ken.ja...@emccompliance.com] Sent: Thursday, November 04, 1999 12:49 PM To: Westin, Amund; 'emc-pstc' Subject: Re: Emission / Enclosure My opinion: From 30 - 1000 MHz the material is not as important as the treatment of seams and

RE: Machinery; EN 60204 hi-pot testing

1999-11-04 Thread Scott Douglas
In addition to all this, the hipot tester may not be capable of providing the current necessary to drive the voltage up to the test level. Example, I had a product with a power supply that required 54 mA to drive the test voltage to 1.5kV AC. The tester could only source 39 mA and so would cause

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1999-11-04 Thread bma
Scott, Thank you very much. Barry -- From: Lacey,Scott sla...@foxboro.com, Date: Thu, 4 Nov 1999 14:52:57 -0500 Barry, In a switchmode supply, the primary side dc voltage = 1.414 times the rms value of the ac input. This is then switched (at 100kHz or

Correction to Fans; m3/h to CFM

1999-11-04 Thread Andrews, Kurt
Peter and fellow EMC-PSTC members, It seems I made a major mistake in my calculations in the email I sent out earlier. I made a mistake in the third line when I said that 1cu.ft./min. = 1.699008 m3/min. Here are the corrected calculations: 1ft. = 0.3048m then 1 cu.ft. = (0.3048m)3 =

Re: Emission / Enclosure

1999-11-04 Thread Ken Javor
My opinion: From 30 - 1000 MHz the material is not as important as the treatment of seams and apertures. -- From: Westin, Amund amund.wes...@dnv.com To: 'emc-pstc' emc-p...@ieee.org Subject: Emission / Enclosure Date: Thu, Nov 4, 1999, 6:18 AM Members, I looking for persons who

RE: Modem FCC type approval

1999-11-04 Thread Mel Pedersen
Its not possible to get FCC approval for a Network Interface transformer...Perhaps an FCC approved DAA could be purchased, but not the transformer. While the transformer is a critical component, the whole modem need to be approved...I believe that the transformer would be listed as a critical

RE: Fans; m3/h to CFM

1999-11-04 Thread Andrews, Kurt
Peter, 1ft. = 0.3048m then 1 cu.ft. = (0.3048m)3 = 0.0283168m3 and 1ft./Sec. also equals 0.3048m/Sec. so then 1cu.ft./Sec. = 0.0283168m3/Sec. so then 1cu.ft./min. = (0.0283168m3/Sec.) x (60Sec./min.) = 1.699008 m3/min. so then 1cu.ft./min. = (1.699008 m3/min.) x (60min./hr.)

RE: Fans; m3/h to CFM

1999-11-04 Thread Mavis, Robert
Peter, 1 m^3/H = 0.5885778 f^3/m (CFM) - Robert L. Mavis Agency Compliance Coordinator Engineering Department, Compliance Engineering Group Pelco 300 W. Pontiac Way Clovis, CA 93612 Phone: (559) 292-1981 x2309 Toll Free: (800) 292-1981 x2309 Fax:

Re: Conductive Coating

1999-11-04 Thread George Tang
Here is one way to make a rough measurement: Take a coated surface. Take a knife and carve a 3 x 1 plated area on the surface. Use a DMM to verify that the isolated rectangular surface is electrically separate from the rest of the plating. Cut 2 pieces of copper foil into 1 x 1 square. Solder

Re: DO-160D testing

1999-11-04 Thread Ken Javor
CKC in Mariposa (and other locations) comes to mind (Chris Kendall Consultants). Chris and Roger McConnell of CKC were involved in the committee work that generated the D rev to DO-160. -- From: Campi, Mike mca...@fpc.fujitsu.com To: 'EMC/PSTC' emc-p...@ieee.org Subject: DO-160D

RE: Fans; m3/h to CFM

1999-11-04 Thread Rick Cooper
Hi Peter, 1 cubic meter per hour = 0.59 cfm (Determined from 1 m3/1 hour X 1 hour/60 minutes X 35.3 ft3/1 m3) Rick Cooper Sr. Project Engineer MET Laboratories, Inc. 410-354-3323 Ext. 331 http://www.metlabs.com/ -Original Message- From: pmerguer...@itl.co.il

Re: Conductive Coating

1999-11-04 Thread Darrell Locke (MSMail)
In my experience with these coatings the choice of material for EMI puposes doesn't matter that much. Nickel or copper work just fine. I have seen 30db attenuation based on the coating alone. The are some other problems with safety/reliability, and material selection is important. Select

Fans; m3/h to CFM

1999-11-04 Thread Peter Merguerian
Hello There! Anyone knows how to convert m3 (ie meters cube)/hour to CFM? To serve my clients better so they can use alternate dc fans, I usually specify in the UL Reports the use of Recognized fans rated XXX Vdc, max --- A, minimum --- CFM. However, I just looked up a spec sheet for a dc fan

RE: Conductive Coating

1999-11-04 Thread Dick Grobner
Some other issues regarding safety - if your product is UL Listed or Certified the conductive coating will need to be listed in the UL Plastics Recognized Component Directory as well as the applicator of the conductive coating and the supplier of the raw plastic material. I had the experience of

Emission / Enclosure

1999-11-04 Thread Westin, Amund
Members, I looking for persons who have experience in use of aluminum vs. metallic plastic enclosure. The enclosure is typically 5cm X 10cm. Which configuration will reduce emission ? Has somebody compared the configuration in practical tests ? Best regards Amund Westin Det Norske Veritas *

Machinery; EN 60204

1999-11-04 Thread Peter Merguerian
Hello from Tel Aviv Everyone! Well, simple question for those machinery experts out there. The standards requires a 1000 VAC Dielectric Strength Test between Live Hazardous Parts and Earth. Can a dc potential at 1.414 of this ac potential be applied instead (ie 1414 Vdc). There are many machines

RE: Update on UK conduit entry dimensions

1999-11-04 Thread Mark
On 3 Nov 99, at 10:13, Jim Eichner wrote: Eric: I was referring to the metric.htm file that was attached to one of the posts in this thread. The file is from Western Tube and is partially reduced below: Trade Size Designator Outside DiameterWall Thickness NPS Metric

RE: Attachment plugs power cord - UK requirement

1999-11-04 Thread Eric Monk
Statutory Instrument 1994 No. 1768 The additional terminology of ordinarily intended for domestic use may have been an unfortunate use of words that have clouded the issue rather than clarify the definition. (they only do it to give newsgroups something to talk about) Certainly the

Re: Conductive Coating

1999-11-04 Thread Robert Macy
A small pedantic point here: Coatings are usually rated in ohms per square which is dimensionless. Looking at the resistance formula: R = rho * length / Area = rho * length / ( width * thickness ) Given fixed rho and fixed thickness (of the coating) you can see that you're left

RE: EU Declaration of Compliance

1999-11-04 Thread Ing. Gert Gremmen
Hello group, I strongly suggest changing a version number. As a test house we always oblige our customers to change their version number on every modification that justifies TCF changements. Most of the time this is done by adding a character A-Z or A1-Z9 to cover for many variations, and most

RE: Chamber Grounding

1999-11-04 Thread Price, Ed
Don: One thing that hasn't been mentioned so far is that you should place your room ground stud as close as possible to the powerline filters. If your room is a modular design (and not double electrically isolated), then the room is actually an assembly of conductive panels with clamp plates

Re: Conductive Coating

1999-11-04 Thread George Tang
There are many different types of conductive coatings available. Silver paint is very conductive, less than 5 ohms per square inch. But it is not as scratch resistant as sheet metal surfaces. Electroless copper / nickel plating is very conductive and durable. You can get as low as 1 ohm per