Re: RTI on Plastics

2001-10-02 Thread Nick Williams
Tony, The straightforward answer to your question is that RTI is a concept developed by UL and is not referred to in the EN standards. The theory is that the EN standards require plastics performance to be assessed at a temperature sufficiently in excess of the temperature at which they are

RE: FCC part 15

2001-10-02 Thread Stuart Lopata
Check part 15.33 for the complete answer and upper frequency measurement range. --- This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety Technical Committee emc-pstc discussion list. Visit our web site at: http://www.ewh.ieee.org/soc/emcs/pstc/ To

Re: Marine Equipment

2001-10-02 Thread Nick Williams
Bob, I can't speak for the FCC requirement, but it's not a foregone conclusion that marine equipment is exempt from the EMC Directive. This is another one of those complex ones where CE marking and other international agreements intermingle and I can't give you much more help with only the

Re: Power Plugs

2001-10-02 Thread Nick Rouse
Certainly not in the U.K. for equipment that may be sold to consumers. It is illegal to sell such equipment without a plug to BS1363 already fitted and with the correctly rated fuse in the plug. Here and in the rest of Europe the cord must have IEC colour coding. Regards Nick Rouse -

Re: Component ESD Immunity Testing

2001-10-02 Thread Nick Rouse
A reminder to anyone who carries out ESD tests on IC's Don't forget to throw away the tested sample. It is easy for IC's to survive ESD tests and appear to be normal but to have serious internal damage that will severely compromise the reliability of the unit Regards Nick Rouse - Original

Re: Question on FCC part 15

2001-10-02 Thread Kenneth Gonzalez
Kris, The FCC will accept test data showing compliance with CISPR 22 as long as the test methodology of ANSI C63.4 has been followed and any required testing above 1 GHz has been performed. I believe that there should be some European test houses listed as capable of performing the tests

RE: RTI on Plastics

2001-10-02 Thread Gregg Kervill
Plastic become very flexible above 60-120 deg C - long before they become molten. 950 requires testing to ensure no hazard at at temperature of 40 deg K ABOVE the maximum operating temperature. Hence a component achieving 75 deg C at ?35? deg C Ambient with an equipment operating temperature of

Re: Marine Equipment

2001-10-02 Thread John Woodgate
I read in !emc-pstc that Leslie Bai leslie_...@yahoo.com wrote (in 20011002170853.30484.qm...@web10904.mail.yahoo.com) about 'Marine Equipment', on Tue, 2 Oct 2001: Hormonized Really? What physiological effect do(es) the hormone(s) have? -- Regards, John Woodgate, OOO - Own Opinions Only.

Re: Class A ITE

2001-10-02 Thread John Woodgate
I read in !emc-pstc that Hougaard, Niels niels.houga...@barconet.com wrote (in 696BDC661BFCD411A8C90002A5094896176263@bndkcopmex01.barconet. com) about 'Class A ITE', on Tue, 2 Oct 2001: As my company's products (units for compressing/decompressing of TV and broadcast signals) mainly are used on

RE: Question on FCC part 15

2001-10-02 Thread Mike Cantwell
Good question. Re-phrased: Is a PC always a PC? According to 15.101(a) provides a table listing the authorization procedures. The specific term, and I quote, is Class B personal computer and is subject to DoC. According to the FCC, 15.3(s) defines a PC as an electronic computer that is

[Fwd: Re: RTI on Plastics]

2001-10-02 Thread David Heald
forwarded for Steve Williams. Original Message Subject: Re: RTI on Plastics List-Post: emc-pstc@listserv.ieee.org Date: Tue, 2 Oct 2001 10:56:00 -0400 From: steve.willi...@apcc.com To: tony.reyno...@pb.com CC: emc-p...@ieee.org, owner-emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org Tony, some

Power Plugs

2001-10-02 Thread WOODS
In the EU is it legal to ship a product with an attached power cord with pig tail leads and have the appropriate power plug attached by the installer according to the installation instructions? Richard Woods --- This message is from the IEEE EMC Society

RE: RTI on Plastics

2001-10-02 Thread Peter Tarver
Tony - The UL746 series of standards are referenced in CSA/UL60950, Annex P.2. RTI is a material property evaluated in UL746B, Polymeric Materials - Long Term Property Evaluations. IIRC, guidance on the applicability of RTI is given in UL746C, Polymeric Materials - Use in Electrical Equipment

RE: Marine Equipment

2001-10-02 Thread Jim Eichner
For CE, as a start, you need to look at both the Marine Equipment Directive and the Recreational Craft Directive. I would apply these as additions to the EMCD and LVD, not as substitutes for. Regards, Jim Eichner, P.Eng. Manager, Engineering Services Xantrex Technology Inc. Mobile Power

Re: Marine Equipment

2001-10-02 Thread Leslie Bai
Hormonized EMC standards for maritime equipment are: EN 300 828 for maritime mobile services and EN 300 829 for maritime earth stations. Leslie --- noisel...@aol.com wrote: Hi Bob: In general, your statement: It is my understanding that marine equipment is exempt from the EMC

wasted engineering effort

2001-10-02 Thread Douglas C. Smith
Hi All, It seems we spend quite a bit of time tracking down glitches on logic signals. Once a glitch has been found that appears to be causing a system to hang-up, reset, or otherwise not perform as expected..Now what? All may not be as it appears and if not, a great deal of engineering

Marine Equipment

2001-10-02 Thread reheller
It is my understanding that marine equipment is exempt from the EMC Directive and from FCC regulations. Can anyone tell me what standards would cover a battery operated lighting system running at 100 VAC, 1500 Hz for both Europe and the U.S.? Thanks, Bob Heller 3M Product Safety, 76-1-01 St.

Looking for EMC engineer

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RTI on Plastics

2001-10-02 Thread Tony . Reynolds
All, I am having some fun with a lab over RTI ratings on plastics. Basically we have a plastic moulding with a component mounted directly on it. The RTI of the plastic is 60C and the component is getting to around 75C actual. I have always looked at the flammability of plastics 5V, V-0, V-1,

RE: Component ESD Immunity Testing

2001-10-02 Thread Stone, Richard A (Richard)
I would think speed of the energy source would be a critical factor. Does anyone have the information on Surge vs. ESD discharge for speed of pulse and duration. Richard, -Original Message- From: Chris Chileshe [mailto:chris.chile...@ultronics.co.uk] Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2001 6:55

RE: Component ESD Immunity Testing

2001-10-02 Thread Chris Chileshe
Ravinder, I can attest to the 2kV ESD immunity of ICs because I have done such tests myself. I am now in the process of trying to raise the ESD immunity level to 4kV on one particular pin. Have you - or anyone else on this group - had any experience working with small surface mount

Question on FCC part 15

2001-10-02 Thread Kristiaan . Carpentier
Hello group, A data acquisition board for building into a PC has been tested to the European standard EN 55022, class B by an accredited testlab in Europe. This configuration is not meant for a residential market and I suppose FCC part 15 is applicable. Which procedure should be followed

RE: Class A ITE

2001-10-02 Thread Hougaard, Niels
Hi, it is a question if you freely can choose between Class A and B if you have a product intended for use in purely domestic environment. As my company's products (units for compressing/decompressing of TV and broadcast signals) mainly are used on broadcast sites it can be discussed if the

Re: Shielding Effectiveness

2001-10-02 Thread Wan Juang Foo
I agree that the seams and apertures cut into a case are the main avenue for radiated emission to penetrate or escape from a shielded case. However, a plated plastic casing e.g. Ni with a thickness of 20 um would be many skin-depths (delta's) in the 100 MHz and above zone, so the SEE ( shielding

Re: Component ESD Immunity Testing

2001-10-02 Thread Doug McKean
Aschenberg, Mat wrote: Are there standards for testing of components on a pwb? There is some concern here that we should be testing individual components on the pwb. Thanks for your help. Mat Aschenberg Mat, The only thing I can find that's anywhere near to what you're asking is

emc test

2001-10-02 Thread Andre Abramenko
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telecom test

2001-10-02 Thread Andre Abramenko
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ITU-T K.45 AC impulse test equipment mfr's sought

2001-10-02 Thread ari . honkala
Hi all, if anyone knows manufacturer who makes those test equipment for mains voltage induction, upto 1500 Volts I would be glad to hear about it. regards, Ari Honkala --- This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety Technical Committee