Re: [PSES] New EMC Directive ... EU Parliament or EU Commission ...

They are parliament approved commission proposals. Regards, Ing. Gert Gremmen, BSc g.grem...@cetest.nl www.cetest.nl Kiotoweg 363 3047 BG Rotterdam T 31(0)104152426 F 31(0)104154953  Before printing, think about the environment. -Oorspronkelijk bericht- Van: Amund Westin

Re: [PSES] Retailer vs. Distributor RE: [PSES] SV: [PSES] New EMC Directive

the authorities can and will use public right to charge any available agent in the chain, the consequences for liability between chain partners will need to be covered with civil right. And that is quite another beast. Regards, Ing. Gert Gremmen, BSc g.grem...@cetest.nl www.cetest.nl Kiotoweg 363

Re: [PSES] Higher EMI from ASIC built with new process

place it on a pcb trace for example. Regards, Ing. Gert Gremmen, BSc Van: ravinder.ajm...@hgst.com [mailto:ravinder.ajm...@hgst.com] Verzonden: Tuesday, March 25, 2014 3:55 AM Aan: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Onderwerp: Re: [PSES] Higher EMI from ASIC built with new process Hi Derek, James

Re: [PSES] common charger for radio equipment

this, are to addressed directly to the King of the EC in Brussels Regards, Ing. Gert Gremmen, BSc g.grem...@cetest.nl www.cetest.nl Kiotoweg 363 3047 BG Rotterdam T 31(0)104152426 F 31(0)104154953  Before printing, think about the environment. -Oorspronkelijk bericht- Van: Brian Oconnell

Re: [PSES] Curious Situation in Italian Customs

. Gert Gremmen, BSc . Van: Brian Ceresney [mailto:bceres...@delta-q.com] Verzonden: maandag 3 maart 2014 20:12 Aan: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Onderwerp: [PSES] Curious Situation in Italian Customs Dear Compliance Professionals, We currently have a product compliance

Re: [PSES] Curious Situation in Italian Customs

Gary, For a ce mark to be valid no accredited test report is needed. Gert Van: Gary McInturff [mailto:gary.mcintu...@esterline.com] Verzonden: maandag 3 maart 2014 20:32 Aan: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Onderwerp: Re: [PSES] Curious Situation in Italian Customs Well you CB

Re: [PSES] EU Declaration of Conformity

dependent on where (read : in what country/court) the interpretation is sought. All this said: I do strongly agree with you and Nick here, but we do not know for what reason this question has risen... Gert Gremmen Van: Nyffenegger, Dave [mailto:dave.nyffeneg...@bhemail.com

Re: [PSES] Harmonic analyzer tool

) ? Note that a offending crystal can easily be identified with a receiver using SSB demodulation (and a speaker) and a cold spray Upon cooling the offending crystal oscillator the drift will be heard very clearly. Hey, now I got you something to do ;))) Regards, Ing. Gert Gremmen, BSc

Re: [PSES] Harmonic analyzer tool

to enhancing your sheet with N and R ??? Regards, Ing. Gert Gremmen, BSc Van: Ken Wyatt [mailto:k...@emc-seminars.com] Verzonden: Thursday, February 20, 2014 12:53 AM Aan: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Onderwerp: [PSES] Harmonic analyzer tool Hi All, I just posted details on a simple crystal oscillator

Re: [PSES] Mobile Compliance

withhold, that is actively maintained by the designer, and offers 30-40 tools of the kind you mention. Though more HAM oriented than real EMC. Regards, Ing. Gert Gremmen, BSc Van: Doug Powell [mailto:doug...@gmail.com] Verzonden: Tuesday, February 18, 2014 8:37 AM Aan: EMC-PSTC

Re: [PSES] EN 55022 and EN 55082-1

this is emissions an 55082 is susceptibility and do not match.) EN 61000-6-2 has much more requirements (7 tests) then 55082-2 (3 tests). Regards, Ing. Gert Gremmen, BSc -Oorspronkelijk bericht- Van: Pettit, Ghery [mailto:ghery.pet...@intel.com] Verzonden: Tuesday, February 11, 2014

Re: [PSES] Rear panel marking

graph and require that with a certain uncertainty all samples are below 99% confidentiality of the printed max value. Regards, Ing. Gert Gremmen, BSc g.grem...@cetest.nl www.cetest.nl Kiotoweg 363 3047 BG Rotterdam T 31(0)104152426 F 31(0)104154953 . Van: McBurney, Ian

[PSES] EN 61010 and (un) safe components

specialty…. Regards, Ing. Gert Gremmen, BSc - This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to emc-p...@ieee.org All emc-pstc postings

Re: [PSES] New EU Code of Conduct

... http://www.powerint.com/en/green-room/agencies/ec-eup-eco-directive Gert Gremmen Van: peterh...@aol.com [mailto:peterh...@aol.com] Verzonden: maandag 13 januari 2014 19:19 Aan: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Onderwerp: Re: [PSES] New EU Code of Conduct Thank you Kris, So

Re: [PSES] Analog Designer's Notebook - Part 2 Technical Tidbit plus more

Hi Dough. Slip of the pen : Tidbit of the month Figure 1 : INVERTING opamp (not non-inverting) I agree with your hypothesis and conclusion, but the problem had never been my problem in decades of analog opamp amplifier design on bi-layer boards. I suppose it's a problem of newer

[PSES] EN 61010

cases ?? If I am wrong, where to find the right clause ??? Regards, Ing. Gert Gremmen, BSc - This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. To post a message

Re: [PSES] EN 61010

Thanks Brian, As usual, i overlooked the annexes Regards, Ing. Gert Gremmen, BSc Before printing, think about the environment. Van: Kunde, Brian [mailto:brian_ku...@lecotc.com] Verzonden: Monday, January 06, 2014 10:00 PM Aan: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Onderwerp: Re

Re: [PSES] EMC Puzzle update

FCA549BE3ECF9D4CB8CB8576837EA48920A450@ZEUS.cetest.local, dated Sun, 22 Dec 2013, ce-test, qualified testing bv - Gert Gremmen g.grem...@cetest.nl writes: Dirty planes do not exist, unless there is a reference to be compared to, ideally universal ground. While most of what you say is true

Re: [PSES] EMC Puzzle update

A few truths about EMC and grounding A conductive PLANE is the closest equivalent for RF of the SINGLE POINT grounding system John recommends. RF current at a certain point A will not travel to a single point S, so the single point comes to point A as a plane. Dirty planes do not exist,

Re: [PSES] Puzzle

Single frequency spikes at a multiple of 25 Mhz are almost always Phy related. You did not mention if they are smallband (single spikes) or wideband, nor if your box is of metal and if it is really closed Gert Gremmen Van: Derek Walton [mailto:lfresea...@aol.com] Verzonden: zaterdag

Re: [PSES] Rejected Manufacturer Declarations

for presumption of compliance with the essential requirements of the directive Follow google for EMC harmonized standards http://ec.europa.eu/enterprise/policies/european-standards/harmonised-standards/electromagnetic-compatibility/index_en.htm for an example (for emc). Regards, Ing. Gert

Re: [PSES] Rejected Manufacturer Declarations

John Wrote: Don't try to stand on your rights on principle; it is not in your interest. Make your position clear (and your principle rights) in advance, once challenged you will always lose. Geer -Oorspronkelijk bericht- Van: John Woodgate [mailto:j...@jmwa.demon.co.uk] Verzonden:

Re: [PSES] Rejected Manufacturer Declarations

No , douane is a rather traditional institute. and rely on paper not on URL. A decision to investigate / pass through is made in seconds. Typing a URL and waiting for a PDF reader to pop-up is just too much to ask. Gert -Oorspronkelijk bericht- Van: Kunde, Brian

Re: [PSES] EMC requirements for developer/evaluation boards

open a way to avoid requirements by what i call smart naming or smart selling. Regards, Ing. Gert Gremmen, BSc g.grem...@cetest.nl www.cetest.nl Kiotoweg 363 3047 BG Rotterdam T 31(0)104152426 F 31(0)104154953  Before printing, think about the environment. -Oorspronkelijk

Re: [PSES] EMC requirements for developer/evaluation boards

No John, no jail for me. Being/Owning a test house I am officially allowed to put into service non-tested equipment, and even non compliant equipment without any restriction Regards, Ing. Gert Gremmen, BSc g.grem...@cetest.nl www.cetest.nl Kiotoweg 363 3047 BG Rotterdam T 31(0

Re: [PSES] EMC requirements for developer/evaluation boards

, and convince the EC commission that your product will change the way we live and open new ways of interacting together.(Apple talk) Regards, Ing. Gert Gremmen, BSc g.grem...@cetest.nl www.cetest.nl Kiotoweg 363 3047 BG Rotterdam T 31(0)104152426 F 31(0)104154953  Before printing, think

Re: [PSES] EMC requirements for developer/evaluation boards

else will possible explain the US position. BTW: telling a bit more about your engagement with EMC would give you better answers. Regards, Ing. Gert Gremmen, BSc g.grem...@cetest.nl mailto:g.grem...@cetest.nl www.cetest.nl Kiotoweg 363 3047 BG Rotterdam T 31(0)104152426 F 31

Re: [PSES] AC input test voltages - requirement for grounded phase?

for the frequencies involved. There are a few issues with PE lines and their termination in LISN's, but they seem not related to your issue. Regards, Ing. Gert Gremmen, BSc g.grem...@cetest.nl mailto:g.grem...@cetest.nl www.cetest.nl Kiotoweg 363 3047 BG Rotterdam T 31(0)104152426 F

Re: [PSES] EN61000-3-2 Clause 4 - and how best to use it

applications such this suggests. The limits have been established based on real cases, with a margin of course. Using the margin might be costly in some cases. Regards, Ing. Gert Gremmen, BSc g.grem...@cetest.nl mailto:g.grem...@cetest.nl www.cetest.nl Kiotoweg 363 3047 BG

Re: [PSES] Would in situ testing be considered OATS FAR SAC TEM or other?

In situ always requires a TCF showing the absolute necessity not to use a standardized setup, isn't it ? Regards, Ing. Gert Gremmen, BSc Owner EMC-Experts LinkeIn group +4000 members. Van: Crane, Lauren [mailto:lauren.cr...@kla-tencor.com] Verzonden: Thursday, October 17, 2013 6

Re: [PSES] Test computers

equipment to the requirements of BMW automotive requirements ( 10 dBuV/m), while transferring a 1Gigabyte video file over the link. Regards, Ing. Gert Gremmen, BSc Van: Doug Powell [mailto:doug...@gmail.com] Verzonden: Wednesday, October 16, 2013 6:17 AM Aan: EMC-PSTC

Re: [PSES] Spark Gap PCB Layout on AC Mains

. As the impedance of the spark gap is low, only a small amount of induction will reduce the surge current substantially. Regards, Ing. Gert Gremmen, BSc Van: Joe Randolph [mailto:j...@randolph-telecom.com] Verzonden: Friday, September 06, 2013 11:32 PM Aan: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG

Re: [PSES] Spark Gap PCB Layout on AC Mains

That depends of course how the transient/surge has been coupled into the mains. If that is due to a ligtning event at a short range, the impedance may be much less. Your analysis is right when the even has been generated far away. Regards, Ing. Gert Gremmen, BSc . -Oorspronkelijk

Re: [PSES] Wire ampacities -

regulator. Regards, Ing. Gert Gremmen, BSc Van: emc-p...@ieee.org [mailto:emc-p...@ieee.org] Namens Ted Eckert Verzonden: Thursday, September 05, 2013 12:09 AM Aan: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Onderwerp: RE: Wire ampacities - A few of the wire vendors have reference charts that may

Re: [PSES] Spark Gap PCB Layout on AC Mains

being connected to a spark device., thus adding a bit of inductance to reduce the current. That fits nice with your observations on high breakdown voltages. Gert Gremmen Van: Joe Randolph [mailto:j...@randolph-telecom.com] Verzonden: vrijdag 6 september 2013 21:06 Aan: EMC-PSTC

Re: [PSES] Retest because of supersded standard?

change in time, especially conducted emissions for telecom and network ports. Regards, Ing. Gert Gremmen, BSc g.grem...@cetest.nl www.cetest.nl Kiotoweg 363 3047 BG Rotterdam T 31(0)104152426 F 31(0)104154953  Before printing, think about the environment. -Oorspronkelijk bericht

Re: [PSES] Retest because of supersded standard?

to CE), you probably just have to comply to their requirements Regards, Ing. Gert Gremmen, BSc g.grem...@cetest.nl www.cetest.nl Kiotoweg 363 3047 BG Rotterdam T 31(0)104152426 F 31(0)104154953  Before printing, think about the environment

Re: [PSES] Retest because of supersded standard?

these languages use the equivalent of the word evidence, in the sense of showing a fact beyond doubt . Are you still sure about your new Signature ?? Regards, Ing. Gert Gremmen, BSc g.grem...@cetest.nl www.cetest.nl Kiotoweg 363 3047 BG Rotterdam T 31(0)104152426 F 31(0)104154953

Re: [PSES] Ground Plane Grounding in the Immunity Lab

You do not need any of them for EMC. Do as you deem necessary for electrical safety. Regards, Ing. Gert Gremmen, BSc Van: emc-p...@ieee.org [mailto:emc-p...@ieee.org] Namens Grace Lin Verzonden: Friday, August 23, 2013 3:04 PM Aan: emc-p...@ieee.org Onderwerp: Ground Plane

Re: [PSES] breakage of the fuse

to the failure you mentioned. Small glass fuses can be obtained with 1500 A safe breaking capacity. If you need even more you need other type (large in general) of fuses and fuse holder. Not that the wiring diameter in the protected circuit should keep up with that. Regards, Ing. Gert Gremmen, BSc

Re: [PSES] Single Point Grounding - Not Achievable at High Frequencies (greater than a few MHz)

The real problem is that we forgot that current flow in loops (Thevenin?) and someone decided somewhere that implementing retour current paths that were intended to have the same potential could be realized by a single conductor... Gert Gremmen -Oorspronkelijk bericht- Van: emc-p

Re: [PSES] Single Point Grounding - Not Achievable at High Frequencies (greater than a few MHz)

. Regards, Ing. Gert Gremmen, BSc g.grem...@cetest.nl mailto:g.grem...@cetest.nl www.cetest.nl Kiotoweg 363 3047 BG Rotterdam T 31(0)104152426 F 31(0)104154953 Before printing, think about the environment. Van: emc-p...@ieee.org [mailto:emc-p...@ieee.org] Namens Bill

Re: [PSES] so what does a DoC look like for a subassembly that isn't usable on its own?

For low voltage many components also need ce marking to the LVD. Regardless their applicaton or target buyers. Regards, Ing. Gert Gremmen, BSc g.grem...@cetest.nl www.cetest.nl Kiotoweg 363 3047 BG Rotterdam T 31(0)104152426 F 31(0)104154953  Before printing, think about the environment

Re: [PSES] Critical component in EMC report

-only version” on request. Too often this has proven to be useful, as our customer can fall back of the details in the test report to detect the cause of a sudden failure. Regards, Ing. Gert Gremmen, BSc g.grem...@cetest.nl mailto:g.grem...@cetest.nl www.cetest.nl

Re: [PSES] RTTE - Radio product or not

in terms of frequency use, modulation method and used bandwidth (and more) and finally decided to refuse it’s use on Swiss soil. Regards, Ing. Gert Gremmen, BSc g.grem...@cetest.nl mailto:g.grem...@cetest.nl www.cetest.nl Kiotoweg 363 3047 BG Rotterdam T 31(0)104152426 F 31

Re: [PSES] test setup for table top ungrounded equipment 61000-4-2 IEC:2008 figure 6 page 20

;)) ). Gert Gremmen Van: emc-p...@ieee.org [mailto:emc-p...@ieee.org] Namens McInturff, Gary Verzonden: donderdag 7 maart 2013 17:00 Aan: 'Ken Wyatt' CC: 'EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG' Onderwerp: RE: [PSES] test setup for table top ungrounded equipment 61000-4-2 IEC:2008 figure 6 page 20 Agree

Re: [PSES] Fiber Optic links for EMC Monitoring

equipment (mainly video cameras) that stayed operating inside. High impedance wires can be used to connect to EUT without field interference and carry (analog) signals out of the room. (NiChrome 40 AWG for example) Car ignition cable provides even higher resistance per meter. Gert

Re: [PSES] Fiber Optic links for EMC Monitoring

connected for monitoring internal performance. Many EUT respond too slow to field to be detected by its normal output signals ( due to processing time, or performing only short times) and for a immunity test we need to connect to internal (for example) thermocouples. Regards, Ing. Gert Gremmen

Re: [PSES] Fiber Optic links for EMC Monitoring

in the same frequency range as the signals. Gert Gremmen Ce-test, qualified testing bv -Oorspronkelijk bericht- Van: emc-p...@ieee.org [mailto:emc-p...@ieee.org] Namens John Woodgate Verzonden: zondag 3 maart 2013 14:33 Aan: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Onderwerp: Re: [PSES] Fiber Optic links

Re: [PSES] LED Chamber Lighting - drivers outside the chamber

start at 28 Volts and draw full current at 37 Volts, and create an awful lot light. Regards, Ing. Gert Gremmen, BSc g.grem...@cetest.nl www.cetest.nl Kiotoweg 363 3047 BG Rotterdam T 31(0)104152426 F 31(0)104154953  Before printing, think about the environment. -Oorspronkelijk

Re: [PSES] LED Chamber Lighting - drivers outside the chamber

I know the topics about LED current sourcing and temp coefficient, but as my power source is limited at 3 amps, which also is the full load current of the LEDs, there is no risk of dead LEDS due to temp runaway. There are 10 LEDS in series and 10 of these chains in parallel.

Re: [PSES] Class A or Class B on Declaration of Conformity

. Gert Gremmen -Oorspronkelijk bericht- Van: emc-p...@ieee.org [mailto:emc-p...@ieee.org] Namens John Woodgate Verzonden: donderdag 14 februari 2013 16:23 Aan: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Onderwerp: Re: Class A or Class B on Declaration of Conformity In message

Re: [PSES] FW: Consultation process within the review of the List of Restricted Substances under Directive 2011/65/EU (RoHS 2)

Hi John, irony ON Once the UK leaves the EC, you will be able to breathe freely again, abandon the decimal system (another invention of the EC), and stop serial numbering equipment. Hold on John, and take another cigarette to filter out the oxygen from the insane EC regulated air. irony OFF Gert

Re: [PSES] FW: Consultation process within the review of the List of Restricted Substances under Directive 2011/65/EU (RoHS 2)

) In message FCA549BE3ECF9D4CB8CB8576837EA489140C70@ZEUS.cetest.local, dated Mon, 21 Jan 2013, ce-test, qualified testing bv - Gert Gremmen g.grem...@cetest.nl writes: irony ON Once the UK leaves the EC, You don't get rid of us that easily. We don't suffer the slings and arrows of outrageous fortune

Re: [PSES] EuP and 1275/2008 standards ?

The EN50564 replaces the EN 62301 See text on the site you refer: EN 50564:2011 Electrical and electronic household and office equipment - Measurement of low power consumption IEC 62301:2011 (Modified) Gert Gremmen Ce-test -Oorspronkelijk bericht- Van: emc-p...@ieee.org

Re: [PSES] One DoC per manufactured Unit?!

of the product where the original 768 document only say may . As the original stems from 2008 and this concept is from 2011 I am afraid the intention is to include the image... 15 april will learn more Regards, Ing. Gert Gremmen, BSc g.grem...@cetest.nl mailto:g.grem...@cetest.nl

Re: [PSES] One DoC per manufactured Unit?!

with increased sales.;)) if you are not on the side of the cheaters. And of course, it also brings the cheating to a higher level, so expect even more stringent measures in the future... it's an everlasting battle between the GOOD and the BAD Regards, Ing. Gert Gremmen, BSc g.grem

Re: [PSES] Why use an MOV?

the service life of the MOV may become lethal before any fuse operates. Gert Gremmen Van: emc-p...@ieee.org [mailto:emc-p...@ieee.org] Namens ralph.mcdiar...@schneider-electric.com Verzonden: zondag 16 december 2012 20:23 Aan: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Onderwerp: Re: [PSES] Why use an MOV

Re: [PSES] Ozone generating equipment

Thanks John.. that makes sense. I was not sure if parts per :: mass per It explains the 120 uG/m3 (as a strange number) = 100 ppB. Regards, Ing. Gert Gremmen, BSc g.grem...@cetest.nl www.cetest.nl Kiotoweg 363 3047 BG Rotterdam T 31(0)104152426 F 31(0)104154953  Before

[PSES] Ozone generating equipment

a emission limit, but I do not know what that limitations has been based on. Regards, Ing. Gert Gremmen, BSc - This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. To post a message to the list

Re: [PSES] Language Translations for EU Declarations of Conformity (DOCs)

, together with the check of USD 100.--. How would you understand the word together then, John? The information to the user and the check to the Prince William ? Regards, Ing. Gert Gremmen, BSc g.grem...@cetest.nl www.cetest.nl Kiotoweg 363 3047 BG Rotterdam T 31(0)104152426 F 31(0)104154953

Re: [PSES] Fast transients - burst - suppression components

(if PCB) If not, it won't work unless the CM coil is BBIIGG. If you cannot fix the PCB make a groundplane, or use metal enclosure. Regards, Ing. Gert Gremmen, BSc g.grem...@cetest.nl mailto:g.grem...@cetest.nl www.cetest.nl Kiotoweg 363 3047 BG Rotterdam T 31(0)104152426 F 31(0

Re: [PSES] AW: EU-DoC - list of applied standards with full title

by the national standardization bodies in adapting the year's reference of a standard to the year of local publication. Gert Gremmen Ce-test Owner LinkedIN EMC-experts group -Oorspronkelijk bericht- Van: emc-p...@ieee.org [mailto:emc-p...@ieee.org] Namens Michael Loerzer Verzonden

Re: [PSES] EN 61000-4-3 for large industrial equipment

Partial illumination, with sufficient overlap. Gert Gremmen Ce-test Van: emc-p...@ieee.org [mailto:emc-p...@ieee.org] Namens Ken Javor Verzonden: woensdag 14 november 2012 4:50 Aan: emc-p...@ieee.org Onderwerp: EN 61000-4-3 for large industrial equipment Forum Members, For a large piece

Re: [PSES] Testing EUT

I think Ron, that you -without knowing me- found the answer to my confusion. My wife is French and I learned to speak French and that must be the cause of it... Thanks to all that replied ! Regards, Ing. Gert Gremmen, BSc g.grem...@cetest.nl www.cetest.nl Kiotoweg 363 3047 BG Rotterdam

Re: [PSES] Possible Counterfeit EMC Components?

Did you open it ? What was inside ? Tuna fish ? Gert Gremmen Ce-test, qualified testing -Oorspronkelijk bericht- Van: emc-p...@ieee.org [mailto:emc-p...@ieee.org] Namens Kunde, Brian Verzonden: dinsdag 30 oktober 2012 21:42 Aan: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Onderwerp: Possible

Re: [PSES] Possible Counterfeit EMC Components?

output signal between 150 and 1500 kHz !! Gert Gremmen Ce-test, qualified testing -Oorspronkelijk bericht- Van: emc-p...@ieee.org [mailto:emc-p...@ieee.org] Namens Brian Oconnell Verzonden: woensdag 31 oktober 2012 19:50 Aan: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Onderwerp: RE: [PSES] Possible

[PSES] Testing EUT

A question for all you out there native english speaking: What is the correct way of expressing: Exercise / Exercising / Exercision / Exercition(of a EUT in order to have it tested) Word spelling check won't help me here... Regards, Ing. Gert Gremmen

Re: [PSES] Possible Counterfeit EMC Components?

2012 20:49 Aan: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Onderwerp: Re: [PSES] Possible Counterfeit EMC Components? In message FCA549BE3ECF9D4CB8CB8576837EA489140A9E@ZEUS.cetest.local, dated Wed, 31 Oct 2012, ce-test, qualified testing bv - Gert Gremmen g.grem...@cetest.nl writes: Had a 200 Watt power supply

Re: [PSES] Possible Counterfeit EMC Components?

the center tap of the ethernet transformer ??? Gert Gremmen -Oorspronkelijk bericht- Van: emc-p...@ieee.org [mailto:emc-p...@ieee.org] Namens Brian Oconnell Verzonden: woensdag 31 oktober 2012 21:29 Aan: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Onderwerp: RE: [PSES] Possible Counterfeit EMC Components

Re: [PSES] OATS vs FAR Radiated Emissions Limits

wavelength changes from 3.5 to almost 5.66 m. So it's more easy to pass the test on an OATS than in a FAR. Therefore the levels used in a FAR are gradually increased when the frequency lowers, to match those of the OATS (in error ). Gert Gremmen Ce-test -Oorspronkelijk bericht

Re: [PSES] Restricted substances in annex XVII of REACH

flammables used to heat a product) In fact its applicable for any hazardous substance under the control of the Company. There are 2 directives due to different introduction dates, and I suppose for legal reasons too. Gert Gremmen Ce-test, qualified testing bv -Oorspronkelijk bericht- Van

Re: [PSES] Ignition sources and exposure time

mixtures of evaporated petrol and air Regards, Ing. Gert Gremmen, BSc g.grem...@cetest.nl mailto:g.grem...@cetest.nl www.cetest.nl Kiotoweg 363 3047 BG Rotterdam T 31(0)104152426 F 31(0)104154953 Before printing, think about the environment. Van: emc-p...@ieee.org

[PSES] FW: [PSES] EU sets EMC limits for London Olympics

;) This is not the same all over Europe, in spite of trying to harmonise legislaton. Regards, Ing. Gert Gremmen, BSc g.grem...@cetest.nl www.cetest.nl Kiotoweg 363 3047 BG Rotterdam T 31(0)104152426 F 31(0)104154953 P Before printing, think about the environment. -Oorspronkelijk

Re: [PSES] FW: [PSES] EU sets EMC limits for London Olympics

, and there is no delivery clause either, It's a one-way benefit system, it's theft. Like making people paying for books in the store they never intent to buy nor read. Gert gremmen Van: ralph.mcdiar...@schneider-electric.com [mailto:ralph.mcdiar...@schneider-electric.com] Verzonden

Re: [PSES] EU sets EMC limits for London Olympics

I think this is as close as how governmental administration can come to what we engineers call an open loop (opamp feedback theory). John, I begin to understand your objections to European (over)regulations, and understand now that they are offset by the UK implementations ; OFCOM = OFF

Re: [PSES] Insulative barriers deposited on metal surfaces

in the application. Of course if you need reinforced , go for that. Gert Gremmen Van: emc-p...@ieee.org [mailto:emc-p...@ieee.org] Namens Brian Ceresney Verzonden: woensdag 18 juli 2012 0:03 Aan: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Onderwerp: Insulative barriers deposited on metal surfaces

Re: [PSES] EMC Plan

will probably end up with missing tests, missing criteria and missing compliance. Gert Gremmen Ce-test, qualified testing bv Van: emc-p...@ieee.org [mailto:emc-p...@ieee.org] Namens Derek Walton Verzonden: woensdag 18 juli 2012 18:53 Aan: emc-p...@ieee.org Onderwerp: EMC Plan Hi Folks

Re: [PSES] Enclosure Resonances Simple Demo

, but on the other hand, you will make more people happy then just me. Regards, Ing. Gert Gremmen, BSc Van: emc-p...@ieee.org [mailto:emc-p...@ieee.org] Namens Ken Wyatt Verzonden: Wednesday, July 11, 2012 5:00 AM Aan: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Onderwerp: Enclosure Resonances Simple

Re: [PSES] Microwave book

Isn’t that in IEC 61000-4-3 newest edition too ? Chamber validation above 1 Gig ? Or are you looking for something else.. Gert Gremmen Ce-test Van: emc-p...@ieee.org [mailto:emc-p...@ieee.org] Namens Derek Walton Verzonden: donderdag 5 juli 2012 19:21 Aan: emc-p...@ieee.org

Re: [PSES] low voltage/communication wire

Regards, Ing. Gert Gremmen, BSc g.grem...@cetest.nl mailto:g.grem...@cetest.nl www.cetest.nl Kiotoweg 363 3047 BG Rotterdam T 31(0)104152426 F 31(0)104154953 Before printing, think about the environment. Van: emc-p...@ieee.org [mailto:emc-p...@ieee.org

Re: [PSES] DMRN for 4 wires (EMC)

Just use 2 sets of 2 anti parallel CM coils and couple the common via a third to ground (I suppose). I do not know your specific application, but in general DM signals come in paired sets of 2.. The only application I know where DM is over 4 wires, is a phantom signal in phone

Re: [PSES] DMRN for 4 wires (EMC)

frequency range. The stray inductance remains in series with the DM signal. Gert Van: ralph.mcdiar...@schneider-electric.com [mailto:ralph.mcdiar...@schneider-electric.com] Verzonden: vrijdag 15 juni 2012 19:29 Aan: ce-test, qualified testing bv - Gert Gremmen CC: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG

Re: [PSES] Laboratory Equipment - the forgotten child

think the first solution will be chosen. Look also here for general access and information to ce marking and the misc directives. http://ec.europa.eu/enterprise/policies/single-market-goods/cemarking/professionals/manufacturers/directives/index_en.htm Regards, Ing. Gert Gremmen, BSc

Re: [PSES] Laboratory Equipment - the forgotten child

-liner. Share your view with us: Why do you consider the MD NOT a New Approach and where did the EC fail here ? Regards, Ing. Gert Gremmen g.grem...@cetest.nl www.cetest.nl Kiotoweg 363 3047 BG Rotterdam T 31(0)104152426 F 31(0)104154953  Before printing, think about the environment

[PSES] EN 60950-1 INaccessible parts

, anyone understands what means 5.3.4c they are short-circuited when a short circuit could cause.. well, that seems evident, sounds like green grass to me: a pleonasm thus. Regards, Ing. Gert Gremmen, BSc g.grem...@cetest.nl mailto:g.grem...@cetest.nl www.cetest.nl

Re: [PSES] EN 60950-1 INaccessible parts

as in 5.3.4c 1 and 2 will probably fail on a motherboard, on many places... How compliance will be achieved there ? Regards, Ing. Gert Gremmen, BSc g.grem...@cetest.nl mailto:g.grem...@cetest.nl www.cetest.nl Kiotoweg 363 3047 BG Rotterdam T 31(0)104152426 F

Re: [PSES] EN 60950-1 INaccessible parts

). This condition is triggered by the chapter on abnormal operation spec. 5.3.4a, with alternates b) and c) . Please comments !!! Gert Van: doug...@gmail.com [mailto:doug...@gmail.com] Verzonden: Thursday, May 31, 2012 2:30 PM Aan: ce-test, qualified testing bv - Gert Gremmen; EMC-PSTC

Re: [PSES] Statute of limitations

was common. Gert Gremmen Van: emc-p...@ieee.org [mailto:emc-p...@ieee.org] Namens Ted Eckert Verzonden: dinsdag 29 mei 2012 19:39 Aan: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Onderwerp: RE: Statute of limitations I've had a number of cases where an IC vendor did a die shrink on an IC without rescaling

Re: [PSES] Circuit breakers in Europe

breakers and a potential Ishort of 20kA or more ? Regards, Ing. Gert Gremmen, BSc ce-test qualified testing . -Oorspronkelijk bericht- Van: emc-p...@ieee.org [mailto:emc-p...@ieee.org] Namens Peter Tarver Verzonden: Wednesday, May 02, 2012 5:44 PM Aan: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG

Re: [PSES] Safety cost and ESD

this will not impact the fall time of discharge. The small air coil takes care of the rise time . Use Teflon insulated wire though to prevent discharge over the windings , and wind them with space to reduce interwinding capacitance. Regards, Ing. Gert Gremmen, BSc g.grem...@cetest.nl www.cetest.nl

Re: [PSES] EN 60065 A12 - Protection against excessive sound pressure from personal music players

Club sound level is addressed (and severely followed up) in many places I know of for many years, by automatic averaging sound level meters that do directly cut the volume of the PA-system. I do not know if the (sound)levels are compatible with those for MP3 players. Regards, Ing. Gert

Re: [PSES] Compliance costs too much.

will impact sales and will be become an investment. If you now conclude that compliance engineering is a democrat issue, you must be wrong !?! Regards, Ing. Gert Gremmen, BSc g.grem...@cetest.nl www.cetest.nl Kiotoweg 363 3047 BG Rotterdam T 31(0)104152426 F 31(0

Re: [PSES] Shipping into Europe - Basic question

I like your pragmatism, but to what directive should you apply the ce mark then ? Applying the ce mark without an applicable directive is illegal and an economic crime. Regards, Ing. Gert Gremmen, BSc g.grem...@cetest.nl www.cetest.nl Kiotoweg 363 3047 BG Rotterdam T 31(0)104152426 F 31(0

Re: [PSES] Raspberry Pi Shipping Delayed Due To CE Testing

This idea has not been delayed by unnecessary testing but by bad management. Testing should have been completed a long time ago, and if the designers were competent, testing might have shown it was unnecessary after all ;) Regards, Ing. Gert Gremmen, BSc g.grem...@cetest.nl

Re: [PSES] Shipping into Europe - Basic question

A PC add-in board is just one of the examples that need ce-mark. I hope you were just kiddin Gert Gremmen -Oorspronkelijk bericht- Van: emc-p...@ieee.org [mailto:emc-p...@ieee.org] Namens Martin E. Cormier Verzonden: woensdag 28 maart 2012 16:50 Aan: emc-p...@ieee.org Onderwerp: Re

Re: [PSES] Shipping into Europe - Basic question

Right, but you have to be very sure in what to write down on your customs papers, to make sure they won't get blocked. Citing 1.2.3.2 is clearly not enough. Especially not if your device looks and feels like 1.3.2.1 Gert Gremmen -Oorspronkelijk bericht- Van: emc-p...@ieee.org [mailto:emc

Re: [PSES] Certification Labels in Software

But how about Clause 1.7.11 (of EN 60950-1:2006) Regards, Ing. Gert Gremmen, BSc g.grem...@cetest.nl mailto:g.grem...@cetest.nl www.cetest.nl Kiotoweg 363 3047 BG Rotterdam T 31(0)104152426 F 31(0)104154953 Before printing, think about the environment. Van: emc-p

Re: [PSES] Mains voltage in Europe

Vac instead of the new 230Vac. Regards, Ing. Gert Gremmen, BSc g.grem...@cetest.nl www.cetest.nl Kiotoweg 363 3047 BG Rotterdam T 31(0)104152426 F 31(0)104154953  Before printing, think about the environment. -Oorspronkelijk bericht- Van: emc-p...@ieee.org [mailto:emc-p

Re: [PSES] New immunity testing by the FAA in the future?

and navigation equipments checked on immunity against PEDS generated interference ? Regards, Ing. Gert Gremmen, BSc -Oorspronkelijk bericht- Van: emc-p...@ieee.org [mailto:emc-p...@ieee.org] Namens Ken Javor Verzonden: Monday, March 19, 2012 1:28 AM Aan: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG

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