Mat,

Beware, some OV Testers in the market are not compliant with the UL1950
requirements. I also wanted to purchase an OV Tester a few years ago. The
market price then was $14,000. I sent specs to UL and because the tester
did not have two current sources as required in the standard, we had to
reject the offer. We finally designed and built a tester for ourselves for
a cost of $3000.

Regards


At 09:14 11/05/2000 -0600, Aschenberg, Mat wrote:
>
>Hello,
>I have a related question. It is indicated that one can get a CB Scheme
>report to UL 1950. 
>UL 1950 paragraph 6.6 requires an overvoltage test. Who makes these
>overvoltage testers? 
>
>Mat
>Mathew Aschenberg
>Agency Engineer
>EchoStar Technologies Corporation
>90 Inverness Circle East
>Englewood, CO 80112
>
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From:        Grant, Tania (Tania) [SMTP:tgr...@lucent.com]
>> Sent:        Wednesday, May 10, 2000 7:51 PM
>> To:  emc-p...@ieee.org; 'Jon Keeble'
>> Subject:     RE: UL certification and Underwriter Laboratory
>> 
>> 
>> John,
>> 
>> The  'UbackwardsR' mark'  is but one of many UL marks.   This is the UL
>> Recognition Mark;--  there are also UL Listing Marks, UL Classification
>> Marks, and perhaps others that I have forgotten.    And you are correct
>> that
>> only UL can issue UL marks.    However, UL can do this based on CB Scheme
>> reports, provided you have also complied with the U.S. National Electrical
>> Code requirements, which are spelled out as deviation in the UL1950
>> standard.   You should be looking at the UL1950, 3rd edition, which is
>> also
>> harmonized with the Canadian Standards Association and its Electrical
>> Code.
>> (Kill 2 birds with one stone!)
>> 
>> Generally speaking, the UL Listing Mark is for end-use product, such as
>> coffee pots, computers, and finished things one can generally buy in the
>> store that perform a function.    UL Recognition Marks are for components
>> and incomplete assemblies that are to be placed inside end-use products,
>> where their recognition still has to be evaluated in this final
>> application.
>> For example, power supplies, such as UPS, electronic load boxes, or desk
>> type boxes with power cords which are used for test equipment, would be UL
>> Listed.    However, power supplies   (transformer/capacitor/choke/etc.
>> circuitry mounted on a printed circuit card) that are sub-assemblies of
>> assorted computer products, would be UL Recognized.    That means that
>> this
>> power supply would be further tested in you end-use product to be sure
>> that
>> you are not overloading it, and that you are using it within its rated
>> specifications.  
>> 
>> You might find the following web sites helpful.
>> 
>>              http://ulstandardsinfonet.ul.com/
>> <http://ulstandardsinfonet.ul.com/> 
>> 
>>              http://www.ul.com/ <http://www.ul.com/> 
>> 
>> Tania Grant, tgr...@lucent.com <mailto:tgr...@lucent.com> 
>> Lucent Technologies, Intelligent Network Unit
>> Messaging Solutions Group
>> 
>> 
>> ----------
>> From:  Jon Keeble [SMTP:j.kee...@fairlightesp.com.au]
>> Sent:  Wednesday, May 10, 2000 4:05 PM
>> To:  emc-p...@ieee.org
>> Subject:  UL certification and Underwriter Laboratory
>> 
>> 
>> I work for an Australian  company that has always assumed that 'having UL'
>> means 'having the 'UbackwardsR' mark'.
>> 
>> The facts as I understand them are
>> (1) a UL1950 certificate is required
>> (2) only an NRTL can issue this certificate
>> (3) The CB scheme was created to allow people in countries like Australia 
>>     to achieve accreditation in other countries (including the US) through
>> their local test house
>> (4) the mark of any test house qualified to issue a UL1950 certificate is
>> all that is required
>> 
>> In our case, there are people in neighboring countries that
>> (1) participate in the CB scheme
>> (2) recognize some Australian test houses (none of which can issue UL1950)
>> (3) are qualified to issue 1950
>> 
>> Our marketing department is fearful that not having the 'UbackwardsR' mark
>> will raise questions in
>> the mind of prospective customers.
>> 
>> I'd be very appreciative of some candid feedback.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> -----------------------------
>> Jon Keeble          
>> Fairlight
>> Hardware Engineering Manager
>> 02 8977 9931
>> j.kee...@fairlightesp.com.au
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