Re: [Emc-users] PWM Amp Basics

2008-06-06 Thread Kirk Wallace
On Thu, 2008-06-05 at 21:19 -0500, Jon Elson wrote: ...snip If you have a spindle encoder, you could make HAL read the encoder velocity and add a correction to the PWM output. Jon It was talked about before, but I don't remember the outcome. The software encoder has a velocity output pin,

Re: [Emc-users] PWM Amp Basics

2008-06-06 Thread Jon Elson
Kirk Wallace wrote: What are the issues with choosing a PWM frequency? I would think that efficiency would be one, where you would balance switching losses and iron or copper losses? Evidence of this might be seen as higher motor or amp temperatures? Lower frequencies might produce noise. I

Re: [Emc-users] Putting Encoder on AC servomotor???

2008-06-06 Thread Mark Wendt (Contractor)
At 10:22 PM 6/5/2008, you wrote: [big scissor sound] - Steve I don't know why, but that got a big giggle out of me this morning... ;-) mark - Check out the new SourceForge.net Marketplace. It's the best place to buy or

Re: [Emc-users] PWM Amp Basics

2008-06-06 Thread Ray Henry
On Thu, 2008-06-05 at 20:54 -0700, Kirk Wallace wrote: On Thu, 2008-06-05 at 21:19 -0500, Jon Elson wrote: Kirk Wallace wrote: A while back I played with a KBIC speed controller which demonstrated fairly good torque at high and low speeds. I was curious about how a PWM amp would do, so

Re: [Emc-users] SheetCam TNG for Linux released

2008-06-06 Thread Leslie Newell
I'll carry on with my experiments as I would like to support as many distros as possible but if it turns into too much of a nightmare I'll make a deb and only support Debian based distros. Les Moses O McKnight wrote: I would second Ray on .deb files. Another thing to consider is that since

[Emc-users] Parallel port PCI card

2008-06-06 Thread aaron Moore
Hi Can anyone tell me what kind of parallel port pci card I need to connect my computer to the breakout board. I have one computer with no parallel port and another computer with a parallel port that does not give out the right signals I presume. I need to get one of them to work. Thanks

Re: [Emc-users] Parallel port PCI card

2008-06-06 Thread Ed
aaron Moore wrote: Hi Can anyone tell me what kind of parallel port pci card I need to connect my computer to the breakout board. I have one computer with no parallel port and another computer with a parallel port that does not give out the right signals I presume. I need to get one of

Re: [Emc-users] Parallel port PCI card

2008-06-06 Thread Greg Michalski
I picked up a cheap ($10) unit from the local computer store - I think they have dual port cards and I can already see I'm going to be adding more signals than my PCI slots will allow with single port cards so I'll probably go back. Just about any card should work - the wiki explains finding the

Re: [Emc-users] Parallel port PCI card

2008-06-06 Thread Emory Smith
I concur on the 2 port card. It's always nice to have an extra port. I added a single port card to my machine that had a built-in and would have put a 3 port in if I'd had it. I like I/O ;^) Emory On Fri, Jun 6, 2008 at 6:33 AM, Ed [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: aaron Moore wrote: Hi Can

Re: [Emc-users] Encoder with 5 000 000 pulses/rev

2008-06-06 Thread Andre' Blanchard
At 12:20 AM 6/6/2008, you wrote: Aram, i talk to company that manufacture encoder with 5 000 000 pulses per rev. the problem is that that encoder has MAXIMUM rpm less than 200 rpm!!! so that encoder can be speen faster than 200 rpm because frequences not enogh to keep so much pulses. if you

Re: [Emc-users] PWM Amp Basics

2008-06-06 Thread Peter C. Wallace
On Fri, 6 Jun 2008, Jon Elson wrote: Date: Fri, 06 Jun 2008 11:11:07 -0500 From: Jon Elson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [Emc-users] PWM Amp

Re: [Emc-users] PWM Amp Basics

2008-06-06 Thread Kirk Wallace
On Fri, 2008-06-06 at 11:11 -0500, Jon Elson wrote: Kirk Wallace wrote: On Thu, 2008-06-05 at 21:19 -0500, Jon Elson wrote: ...snip If you have a spindle encoder, you could make HAL read the encoder velocity and add a correction to the PWM output. Jon It was talked about

[Emc-users] wiki request

2008-06-06 Thread Dave Engvall
I just checked the wiki and someone wanted some acme thread for fest. I happen to have some 1 if they can figure out a way to mount it. Any idea who we blame for this? Dave - Check out the new SourceForge.net Marketplace.

Re: [Emc-users] wiki request

2008-06-06 Thread Chris Radek
On Fri, Jun 06, 2008 at 03:13:01PM -0700, Dave Engvall wrote: I just checked the wiki and someone wanted some acme thread for fest. I happen to have some 1 if they can figure out a way to mount it. Any idea who we blame for this? That's my request! If you have a shortish piece, and if the

Re: [Emc-users] wiki request

2008-06-06 Thread John Kasunich
Chris Radek wrote: On Fri, Jun 06, 2008 at 03:13:01PM -0700, Dave Engvall wrote: I just checked the wiki and someone wanted some acme thread for fest. I happen to have some 1 if they can figure out a way to mount it. Any idea who we blame for this? That's my request! If you have a

Re: [Emc-users] wiki request

2008-06-06 Thread Dave Engvall
OK, more dumb questions. Would a short ball screw do what you want? It certainly would be more precise than acme rod; or do I miss the intent? If I remember I can bring ER40 1, .75 and .625 collets. I think I have all three. Dave On Jun 6, 2008, at 3:23 PM, John Kasunich wrote: Chris Radek

Re: [Emc-users] Emc on cd??

2008-06-06 Thread Ray Henry
On Fri, 2008-06-06 at 17:30 -0700, Eric Laycock wrote: I need a copy of the emc live on a cd . Can anyone help?thank, Eric I could do that but we should be able to find someone near you to burn that disk for you. The images for both 6.06 and 8.04 are available for download. Contact me off

[Emc-users] Pico on Pluto

2008-06-06 Thread Kirk Wallace
I received a Pluto today and started playing with it. Thanks to some help from the IRC (Thank you Skunkworks) I got the driver to load using LPT1 (378). Although, it loads without the apparent fix (epp_wide=0) now too. The driver and EMC loads with my PCI parport card, but it it doesn't respond to

Re: [Emc-users] Pico on Pluto

2008-06-06 Thread Kirk Wallace
On Fri, 2008-06-06 at 22:31 -0400, Stephen Wille Padnos wrote: Check to see if the parameter pluto.whatever.pwm.is-pdm is set. If so, try clearing that bit. That sets PDM or Interleaved PWM mode, which operates similarly to a step generator - it outputs as high a frequency as possible, to

Re: [Emc-users] PWM Amp Basics

2008-06-06 Thread Jon Elson
Peter C. Wallace wrote: A reasonable hack might be to use the previous delta for velocity if index (and a count clear event) happened Good thought, this condition will only exist for one servo cycle, so it shouldn't cause any problems for a spindle speed control algorithm. Jon

Re: [Emc-users] PWM Amp Basics

2008-06-06 Thread Jon Elson
Kirk Wallace wrote: Feedback would start with ppmc.X.encoder.X.delta? Is encoder delta reset to zero and at what event? This would then be scaled/converted to RPM and fed to pid.X.feedback and possibly a speed display. Encoder.xx.delta is never reset. It is derived by subtracting the last

Re: [Emc-users] Pico on Pluto

2008-06-06 Thread Jon Elson
Kirk Wallace wrote: I received a Pluto today and started playing with it. Thanks to some help from the IRC (Thank you Skunkworks) I got the driver to load using LPT1 (378). Although, it loads without the apparent fix (epp_wide=0) now too. The driver and EMC loads with my PCI parport card, but

Re: [Emc-users] Pico on Pluto

2008-06-06 Thread Kirk Wallace
On Fri, 2008-06-06 at 23:32 -0500, Jon Elson wrote: ... snip My guess is the Pluto is using synchronous antiphase modulation, where the bridge is switching the transistors on 50% of the time at idle. This provides full DC supply voltage across the inductor at the PWM frequency, and heating

Re: [Emc-users] PWM Amp Basics

2008-06-06 Thread Kirk Wallace
On Fri, 2008-06-06 at 23:08 -0500, Jon Elson wrote: Kirk Wallace wrote: Feedback would start with ppmc.X.encoder.X.delta? Is encoder delta reset to zero and at what event? This would then be scaled/converted to RPM and fed to pid.X.feedback and possibly a speed display.