Re: [Emc-users] A Bit OT, turning 4140

2012-02-16 Thread andy pugh
On 15 February 2012 22:55, Mark Cason farmerboy1...@yahoo.com wrote:   I've never tried welding on a race to get it off.  I've never had a race that was stuck this badly. It's a popular way to remove the bottom, outer, steering head race from a motorcycle frame. In the interests of rigidity

Re: [Emc-users] A Bit OT, turning 4140

2012-02-16 Thread Steve Blackmore
On Wed, 15 Feb 2012 16:55:03 -0600, you wrote: I've never tried welding on a race to get it off. I've never had a race that was stuck this badly. I've got all kinds of pullers, many of which I've made. I also have a set of pullers that screw onto a 10lb slide hammer that can persuade

Re: [Emc-users] Pengingat: Kurniadi mengundang kamu ke Twoo

2012-02-16 Thread Lester Caine
gene heskett wrote: hallo, who let this one in the door? Beats me Jan. I fed it to Spamassassin for training here.:) Doesn't anybody speak English in Greater London now :) -- Lester Caine - G8HFL - Contact - http://lsces.co.uk/wiki/?page=contact L.S.Caine

Re: [Emc-users] Encoder wheel [Was: Need advice on 1/16 end mill]

2012-02-16 Thread charles green
i've mostly dealt a proprietary formula called GFY, mostly.   --- On Thu, 2/16/12, andy pugh bodge...@gmail.com wrote: From: andy pugh bodge...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Encoder wheel [Was: Need advice on 1/16 end mill] To: farmerboy1...@yahoo.com, Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)

[Emc-users] More control board questions

2012-02-16 Thread Erik Friesen
How feasible is it to use the mesa 5i25 in a similar way to the universal stepper controller? IE.. Use hardware step generation + encoder feedback? Another ignorant question, why is the industry so inclined to isolated IO? vs single board designed systems where everything is layed out properly.

Re: [Emc-users] More control board questions

2012-02-16 Thread Dave Caroline
Isolation is about protection of low voltage circuits that cannot handle any spikes outside normal ranges and the voltages inherent with electrical noise in a working system which could easily be up to 1000v or more. It also removes the ground loop that add/subtracts from your signal. Dave

Re: [Emc-users] More control board questions

2012-02-16 Thread Andy Pugh
On 16 Feb 2012, at 14:29, Erik Friesen e...@aercon.net wrote: How feasible is it to use the mesa 5i25 in a similar way to the universal stepper controller? IE.. Use hardware step generation + encoder feedback? Just a bare 5i25, or using daughter cards? You ought to be able to do it with a

Re: [Emc-users] More control board questions

2012-02-16 Thread Przemek Klosowski
On Thu, Feb 16, 2012 at 8:29 AM, Erik Friesen e...@aercon.net wrote: Another ignorant question, why is the industry so inclined to isolated IO? vs single board designed systems where everything is layed out properly. This just gets me, when trying to make a control system look neat, and you

Re: [Emc-users] More control board questions

2012-02-16 Thread Peter C. Wallace
On Thu, 16 Feb 2012, Erik Friesen wrote: Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2012 08:29:52 -0500 From: Erik Friesen e...@aercon.net Reply-To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: [Emc-users] More

Re: [Emc-users] More control board questions

2012-02-16 Thread James Louis
Are there any example wiring diagrams available for this easy closed loop stepper configuration? It sounds interesting. Jim - Original Message - From: Peter C. Wallace p...@mesanet.com To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net Sent: Thu Feb 16 08:42:33 2012

Re: [Emc-users] More control board questions

2012-02-16 Thread Peter C. Wallace
On Thu, 16 Feb 2012, James Louis wrote: Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2012 09:02:26 -0600 From: James Louis james.lo...@gastechnology.org Reply-To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net To: emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re:

[Emc-users] Cutsim (was: Re: Feature request)

2012-02-16 Thread Anders Wallin
I don't think that belongs in linuxcnc.  It sounds like you would like the cut simulation work that Anders Wallin et al are working on.  Check this out: http://www.anderswallin.net/2010/08/octree-animation/ It'd be cool to have a tool like that in another Axis tab... Last time I tried to

Re: [Emc-users] More control board questions

2012-02-16 Thread James Louis
I could not find a wiring diagram of the devices connected to the Mesa 7I43-U-4 card at GantryPlasmaMachine. Config files yes, schematics no. That is otherwise a GREAT wiki page! Thanks! Jim - Original Message - From: Peter C. Wallace p...@mesanet.com To: Enhanced Machine Controller

Re: [Emc-users] Encoder wheel [Was: Need advice on 1/16 end mill]

2012-02-16 Thread dave
On Thu, 16 Feb 2012 08:01:13 + andy pugh bodge...@gmail.com wrote: On 15 February 2012 23:32, Mark Cason farmerboy1...@yahoo.com wrote:   The CNRPPPT is a proprietary blend of metals that I'm still under NDA.   I can tell you that the C is Chrome, the N is Nickel, one of the P's is

Re: [Emc-users] Cutsim (was: Re: Feature request)

2012-02-16 Thread Sebastian Kuzminsky
I have only a little experience as a user of cut simulation, but the times I've used it, it's been integrated with the CAM rather than with the machine control. It's when you're designing the cuts that cutsim is most useful, IMO. I wonder if Dan Falck's FreeCAD+OpenCamLib work would be a

Re: [Emc-users] Pengingat: Kurniadi mengundang kamu ke Twoo

2012-02-16 Thread Kirk Wallace
On Thu, 2012-02-16 at 02:29 -0500, gene heskett wrote: On Thursday, February 16, 2012 02:27:45 AM Jan de Kruyf did opine: hallo, who let this one in the door? j Beats me Jan. I fed it to Spamassassin for training here. :) Cheers, Gene I seem to recall that the last message like

Re: [Emc-users] More control board questions

2012-02-16 Thread Jon Elson
James Louis wrote: Are there any example wiring diagrams available for this easy closed loop stepper configuration? Take a standard Universal Stepper Controller, and get it working with drives and motors of your choice. Add encoders, and flip the DIP switch on the board to select the encoder

Re: [Emc-users] Encoder wheel [Was: Need advice on 1/16 end mill]

2012-02-16 Thread Mark Cason
On 02/16/2012 01:52 AM, andy pugh wrote: On 15 February 2012 21:29, gene heskettghesk...@wdtv.com wrote: Gene - the encoder wheel I use is 3mm Tufnol sheet, painted black. The plastic, except for temporary fitting wouldn't do for permanent as it will be trapped between the spindle preload

Re: [Emc-users] Cutsim (was: Re: Feature request)

2012-02-16 Thread gene heskett
On Thursday, February 16, 2012 11:53:23 AM Sebastian Kuzminsky did opine: I have only a little experience as a user of cut simulation, but the times I've used it, it's been integrated with the CAM rather than with the machine control. It's when you're designing the cuts that cutsim is most

Re: [Emc-users] Cutsim (was: Re: Feature request)

2012-02-16 Thread Dave Caroline
On Thu, Feb 16, 2012 at 4:49 PM, Sebastian Kuzminsky s...@highlab.com wrote: I have only a little experience as a user of cut simulation, but the times I've used it, it's been integrated with the CAM rather than with the machine control.  It's when you're designing the cuts that cutsim is

Re: [Emc-users] More control board questions

2012-02-16 Thread Erik Friesen
What I have in mind is my own daughtercard. Encoders would be fed through to the 5i25. I would use a mcp3208 in spi mode to give me 8 analog inputs, assuming the 5i25 can do it. I have been looking at the gecko drives, they are 10x microstepping, which seems overkill. They do have some decent

Re: [Emc-users] More control board questions

2012-02-16 Thread Erik Friesen
How are these customers dealing with a stalled stepper, or is there any limits built in? I know you should never have a stalled stepper, but you still need to plan for it anyway. On Thu, Feb 16, 2012 at 9:42 AM, Peter C. Wallace p...@mesanet.com wrote: On Thu, 16 Feb 2012, Erik Friesen wrote:

Re: [Emc-users] Cutsim (was: Re: Feature request)

2012-02-16 Thread Anders Wallin
I have only a little experience as a user of cut simulation, but the times I've used it, it's been integrated with the CAM rather than with the machine control.  It's when you're designing the cuts that cutsim is most useful, IMO.  I wonder if Dan Falck's FreeCAD+OpenCamLib work would be a

Re: [Emc-users] More control board questions

2012-02-16 Thread gene heskett
On Thursday, February 16, 2012 01:40:53 PM Erik Friesen did opine: What I have in mind is my own daughtercard. Encoders would be fed through to the 5i25. I would use a mcp3208 in spi mode to give me 8 analog inputs, assuming the 5i25 can do it. I have been looking at the gecko drives,

Re: [Emc-users] More control board questions

2012-02-16 Thread Peter C. Wallace
On Thu, 16 Feb 2012, Erik Friesen wrote: Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2012 13:28:59 -0500 From: Erik Friesen e...@aercon.net Reply-To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [Emc-users]

[Emc-users] spam

2012-02-16 Thread Jan de Kruyf
Hallo Kurniadi, Sorry my friend but you are creating spam again on the emc mailinglist. Hope you noticed it. Regards, Jan de Kruyf. -- Virtualization Cloud Management Using Capacity Planning Cloud computing makes use

[Emc-users] OT-bandsaw

2012-02-16 Thread dave
Hi all, I have a cheapie horizontal bandsaw that has performed decently well for 10 years or so and just recently started sheddinga the blade after a few turns. As far as I can tell the blade works its way off the non-driven wheel. I suspect the guides (ball bearings) are at fault but will

Re: [Emc-users] OT-bandsaw

2012-02-16 Thread Jan de Kruyf
the ballbearings! at least one of the wheels does not run perfectly parallel to the other wheel anymore. (my logical reasoning wife will now tell me I cocked up that sentence, bt never mind) j. On Thu, Feb 16, 2012 at 9:22 PM, dave dengv...@charter.net wrote: Hi all, I have a cheapie

Re: [Emc-users] OT-bandsaw

2012-02-16 Thread andy pugh
On 16 February 2012 19:22, dave dengv...@charter.net wrote: I have a cheapie horizontal bandsaw that has performed decently well for 10 years or so and just recently started sheddinga the blade after a few turns. I wonder if the blade might have overheated and is now conical? -- atp The

Re: [Emc-users] OT-bandsaw

2012-02-16 Thread Dave
Dave, I don't know what kind of bandsaw you have, but I have several bandsaws and all of them have a means of tilting one of the wheels (usually the non-driven idler wheel ). If your wheel bearings are good, then it is likely that your one wheel needs to be tilted to track the blade. The

Re: [Emc-users] OT-bandsaw

2012-02-16 Thread gene heskett
On Thursday, February 16, 2012 03:22:53 PM dave did opine: Hi all, I have a cheapie horizontal bandsaw that has performed decently well for 10 years or so and just recently started shedding the blade after a few turns. As far as I can tell the blade works its way off the non-driven

Re: [Emc-users] OT-bandsaw

2012-02-16 Thread John Prentice
- Original Message - From: andy pugh bodge...@gmail.com To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2012 7:41 PM Subject: Re: [Emc-users] OT-bandsaw On 16 February 2012 19:22, dave dengv...@charter.net wrote: I have a cheapie

Re: [Emc-users] OT-bandsaw

2012-02-16 Thread gene heskett
On Thursday, February 16, 2012 03:56:45 PM Jan de Kruyf did opine: the ballbearings! at least one of the wheels does not run perfectly parallel to the other wheel anymore. (my logical reasoning wife will now tell me I cocked up that sentence, bt never mind) j. Of course Jan,

Re: [Emc-users] OT-bandsaw

2012-02-16 Thread Jan de Kruyf
nah! she did a semester of logical reasoning, much worse! My peabrain finally woke up to the facts of bandsaws. Last time I had this not only were the bearings gone but also the crown of one of the wheels was completely eaten away by shavings caught between the blade and the crown. We turned a

Re: [Emc-users] OT-bandsaw

2012-02-16 Thread dave
On Thu, 16 Feb 2012 23:10:30 +0200 Jan de Kruyf jan.de.kr...@gmail.com wrote: nah! she did a semester of logical reasoning, much worse! My peabrain finally woke up to the facts of bandsaws. Last time I had this not only were the bearings gone but also the crown of one of the wheels was

Re: [Emc-users] Encoder wheel [Was: Need advice on 1/16 end mill]

2012-02-16 Thread Steve Blackmore
On Wed, 15 Feb 2012 16:29:36 -0500, you wrote: The plastic, except for temporary fitting wouldn't do for permanent as it will be trapped between the spindle preload nut, and it's locking nut in normal operation. That is driven tight with a drift punch in the nut slots. The plastic will

Re: [Emc-users] OT-bandsaw

2012-02-16 Thread dave
On Thu, 16 Feb 2012 13:36:00 -0800 dave dengv...@charter.net wrote: On Thu, 16 Feb 2012 23:10:30 +0200 Jan de Kruyf jan.de.kr...@gmail.com wrote: nah! she did a semester of logical reasoning, much worse! My peabrain finally woke up to the facts of bandsaws. Last time I had this

Re: [Emc-users] Encoder wheel [Was: Need advice on 1/16 end mill]

2012-02-16 Thread gene heskett
On Thursday, February 16, 2012 08:16:36 PM Steve Blackmore did opine: On Wed, 15 Feb 2012 16:29:36 -0500, you wrote: The plastic, except for temporary fitting wouldn't do for permanent as it will be trapped between the spindle preload nut, and it's locking nut in normal operation. That is

Re: [Emc-users] OT-bandsaw

2012-02-16 Thread BRIAN GLACKIN
snip There is a 4X6 bandsaw group on Yahoo Groups that specializes in tweaking maintaining and improving the cheap import bandsaws. They have a very good tuneup guide in the files which will walk you through all the maintenance adjustments and upgrades to get your saw back in service.