Re: [Emc-users] Maybe a minimally printed harmonic drive?

2021-03-19 Thread Chris Albertson
If you wanted a more durable part, you can send the STL file out to a service that prints it in stainless steel. You might change the design to reduce the bulk because they charge by the gram for the steel. SpaceX is printing pre-burner parts for their new Raptor engines. If anything needs to

Re: [Emc-users] Maybe a minimally printed harmonic drive?

2021-03-19 Thread Gregg Eshelman via Emc-users
3D printing fixtures to hold things you've 3D printed can be done the same way. Put two cubes side by side with a bit of gap between. Position the object at the divide so that it's half embedded in each cube, with no undercuts. Subtract the object from both cubes. Print the cubes and you have

Re: [Emc-users] Trying to power up my little PCB mill (ken.stra...@gmail.com)

2021-03-19 Thread Alan Condit
Thanks Ken and Gene, The X and Z cables were miswired. I was pretty sure the problem was not in the controller box because it was working with the X2 mill. Now I can work on the homing sequence. Alan From: > To: "'Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)'" > > Cc: > Bcc: > Date: Fri, 19 Mar 2021

Re: [Emc-users] Trying to power up my little PCB mill

2021-03-19 Thread Jon Elson
On 03/19/2021 05:21 PM, Alan Condit wrote: I finally got my PCB mill all wired up and I started with the stepconf configuration that works with my X2 mill. Neither the X axis or the Z axis work. They just shudder. However, the Y axis works fine it will do 180 ipm. So I took the stepper off of

Re: [Emc-users] Trying to power up my little PCB mill

2021-03-19 Thread Gene Heskett
On Friday 19 March 2021 18:21:29 Alan Condit wrote: > I finally got my PCB mill all wired up and I started with the stepconf > configuration that works with my X2 mill. Neither the X axis or the Z > axis work. They just shudder. However, the Y axis works fine it will > do 180 ipm. So I took the

Re: [Emc-users] Trying to power up my little PCB mill

2021-03-19 Thread ken.strauss
"Shuttering" is a frequent symptom of a mis-wired motor. Are all three motors wired identically? Check the cables! -Original Message- From: Alan Condit Sent: March 19, 2021 6:21 PM To: Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: [Emc-users] Trying to power up my little PCB mill I finally

[Emc-users] Trying to power up my little PCB mill

2021-03-19 Thread Alan Condit
I finally got my PCB mill all wired up and I started with the stepconf configuration that works with my X2 mill. Neither the X axis or the Z axis work. They just shudder. However, the Y axis works fine it will do 180 ipm. So I took the stepper off of the X axis to see if it would turn by itself

Re: [Emc-users] Maybe a minimally printed harmonic drive?

2021-03-19 Thread Gene Heskett
On Friday 19 March 2021 15:21:05 Sam Sokolik wrote: > still running 18+ hours. Sounds better Sam. > On Fri, Mar 19, 2021 at 2:03 PM Gene Heskett wrote: > > On Friday 19 March 2021 13:07:58 Sam Sokolik wrote: > > > I think you want it as hard as you can that still last a decent > > > amount of

Re: [Emc-users] Maybe a minimally printed harmonic drive?

2021-03-19 Thread Sam Sokolik
still running 18+ hours. On Fri, Mar 19, 2021 at 2:03 PM Gene Heskett wrote: > On Friday 19 March 2021 13:07:58 Sam Sokolik wrote: > > > I think you want it as hard as you can that still last a decent amount > > of time.. Too rubbery and there will be more toque flex... > > > Yes, it folds up

Re: [Emc-users] Maybe a minimally printed harmonic drive?

2021-03-19 Thread Gene Heskett
On Friday 19 March 2021 13:07:58 Sam Sokolik wrote: > I think you want it as hard as you can that still last a decent amount > of time.. Too rubbery and there will be more toque flex... > Yes, it folds up and a nema 17 then makes sausage out of it. [...] Cheers, Gene Heskett -- "There are

Re: [Emc-users] Maybe a minimally printed harmonic drive?

2021-03-19 Thread Gene Heskett
On Friday 19 March 2021 12:53:40 John Dammeyer wrote: > There are some other printable filaments that are far more flexible. > More like rubber. Would perhaps that material work better? > I tried TPU in a previous failure but it was too soft, PETG outlasted it by 20/1. It also has a high

Re: [Emc-users] Maybe a minimally printed harmonic drive?

2021-03-19 Thread Gene Heskett
On Friday 19 March 2021 12:51:55 Chris Albertson wrote: > When I first saw this, my idea was to print the internal tooth gear > "backward" as a mold that makes up the central space in the aluminum > housing, then pour in an epoxy/glass composite paste. > > I've seen this done on other projects,

Re: [Emc-users] Maybe a minimally printed harmonic drive?

2021-03-19 Thread Gene Heskett
On Friday 19 March 2021 11:03:05 Sam Sokolik wrote: > So - this didn't make it 6 hours with the steppers running 833rpm > (3000deg/min at the face plate) (forward reverse some positioning...) > > http://electronicsam.com/images/greenmachine/IMG_20210317_073558.jpg > > Now - I am sure it would

Re: [Emc-users] Spindle rps and index

2021-03-19 Thread Peter C. Wallace
On Fri, 19 Mar 2021, Nicklas SB Karlsson wrote: Date: Fri, 19 Mar 2021 19:07:50 +0100 From: Nicklas SB Karlsson Reply-To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)" To: emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Spindle rps and index Den 2021-03-19 kl. 10:53, skrev andy pugh: On

Re: [Emc-users] Spindle rps and index

2021-03-19 Thread Nicklas SB Karlsson
Den 2021-03-19 kl. 10:53, skrev andy pugh: On Fri, 19 Mar 2021 at 01:46, John Dammeyer wrote: I take it then that you can't actually move the spindle to the index position unless you have some sort of control beyond velocity? Velocity control + PID = position control. Here is a schematic

Re: [Emc-users] Maybe a minimally printed harmonic drive?

2021-03-19 Thread Sam Sokolik
I think you want it as hard as you can that still last a decent amount of time.. Too rubbery and there will be more toque flex... On Fri, Mar 19, 2021, 11:58 AM John Dammeyer wrote: > > There are some other printable filaments that are far more flexible. More > like rubber. Would perhaps

Re: [Emc-users] Maybe a minimally printed harmonic drive?

2021-03-19 Thread John Dammeyer
> From: andy pugh [mailto:bodge...@gmail.com] > On Fri, 19 Mar 2021 at 15:07, Sam Sokolik wrote: > > > > It isn't going to > > be run like this in normal situations and you can always print more gears... > > I wouldn't imagine that printing a new flex gear talkies very long, either? > > -- >

Re: [Emc-users] Maybe a minimally printed harmonic drive?

2021-03-19 Thread Sam Sokolik
Exactly... On Fri, Mar 19, 2021, 11:58 AM andy pugh wrote: > On Fri, 19 Mar 2021 at 15:07, Sam Sokolik wrote: > > > > It isn't going to > > be run like this in normal situations and you can always print more > gears... > > I wouldn't imagine that printing a new flex gear talkies very long,

Re: [Emc-users] Maybe a minimally printed harmonic drive?

2021-03-19 Thread andy pugh
On Fri, 19 Mar 2021 at 15:07, Sam Sokolik wrote: > > It isn't going to > be run like this in normal situations and you can always print more gears... I wouldn't imagine that printing a new flex gear talkies very long, either? -- atp "A motorcycle is a bicycle with a pandemonium attachment and

Re: [Emc-users] Maybe a minimally printed harmonic drive?

2021-03-19 Thread John Dammeyer
There are some other printable filaments that are far more flexible. More like rubber. Would perhaps that material work better? John > -Original Message- > From: Sam Sokolik [mailto:samco...@gmail.com] > Sent: March-19-21 8:03 AM > To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) > Subject:

Re: [Emc-users] Spindle rps and index

2021-03-19 Thread John Dammeyer
> From: Roland Jollivet [mailto:roland.jolli...@gmail.com] > On Fri, 19 Mar 2021 at 11:58, andy pugh wrote: > > > On Fri, 19 Mar 2021 at 01:46, John Dammeyer > > wrote: > > > > > I take it then that you can't actually move the spindle to the index > > position unless you have some sort of

Re: [Emc-users] Maybe a minimally printed harmonic drive?

2021-03-19 Thread Chris Albertson
When I first saw this, my idea was to print the internal tooth gear "backward" as a mold that makes up the central space in the aluminum housing, then pour in an epoxy/glass composite paste. I've seen this done on other projects, the most complex is a prosthetic hand I'm slowly working on. The

Re: [Emc-users] Spindle rps and index

2021-03-19 Thread John Dammeyer
> From: andy pugh [mailto:bodge...@gmail.com] > On Fri, 19 Mar 2021 at 01:46, John Dammeyer wrote: > > > I take it then that you can't actually move the spindle to the index > > position unless you have some sort of control beyond velocity? > > Velocity control + PID = position control. > >

Re: [Emc-users] OT: Driving tiny steppers

2021-03-19 Thread Thaddeus Waldner
I would be interested in hearing back how the TCM drivers do with those motors. > On Mar 18, 2021, at 10:53 PM, Frank Tkalcevic > wrote: > > I do have some TMC stepper drivers around, I should see if that works. ___ Emc-users mailing list

Re: [Emc-users] Maybe a minimally printed harmonic drive?

2021-03-19 Thread Sam Sokolik
So - this didn't make it 6 hours with the steppers running 833rpm (3000deg/min at the face plate) (forward reverse some positioning...) http://electronicsam.com/images/greenmachine/IMG_20210317_073558.jpg Now - I am sure it would last longer if it was run slower... The flex gear now has the

[Emc-users] Spindle rps and index

2021-03-19 Thread Roland Jollivet
On Fri, 19 Mar 2021 at 11:58, andy pugh wrote: > On Fri, 19 Mar 2021 at 01:46, John Dammeyer > wrote: > > > I take it then that you can't actually move the spindle to the index > position unless you have some sort of control beyond velocity? >

Re: [Emc-users] Spindle rps and index

2021-03-19 Thread andy pugh
On Fri, 19 Mar 2021 at 01:46, John Dammeyer wrote: > I take it then that you can't actually move the spindle to the index position > unless you have some sort of control beyond velocity? Velocity control + PID = position control. Here is a schematic of a typical LinuxCNC spindle orient setup:

Re: [Emc-users] OT: Driving tiny steppers

2021-03-19 Thread Frank Tkalcevic
Thanks for the replies. I adjusted the current, initially by measuring the reference voltage to get (from memory) 150mA. That ended up warming the motor too much, so I reduced it some more. Regardless of the current, the behaviour didn't change. I do have some TMC stepper drivers around, I