Re: [Emc-users] Code of Conduct

On 7/12/21 8:24 PM, Valerio Bellizzomi wrote: On Tue, 2021-07-13 at 02:05 +0200, Dr. Nikolaus Klepp wrote: So forcing CoC on all others is mature behaviour, isn't it? Nik yes, it is sign that one cares about the quality of the project. Please post a list of these requirements that a

Re: [Emc-users] Code of Conduct

On 7/12/21 8:21 PM, Valerio Bellizzomi wrote: On Mon, 2021-07-12 at 19:15 -0400, Bruce Layne wrote: On 7/12/21 4:27 PM, Dave Cole wrote: The argument that no professional organizations or people will be attracted to a project without a COC is nonsense. LinuxCNC has succeeded brilliantly all

Re: [Emc-users] Code of Conduct

On Tue, 2021-07-13 at 02:05 +0200, Dr. Nikolaus Klepp wrote: > So forcing CoC on all others is mature behaviour, isn't it? > > Nik yes, it is sign that one cares about the quality of the project. > Anno domini 2021 Mon, 12 Jul 22:12:51 +0100 > Les Newell scripsit: > > As I pointed out before

Re: [Emc-users] Code of Conduct

On Mon, 2021-07-12 at 19:15 -0400, Bruce Layne wrote: > On 7/12/21 4:27 PM, Dave Cole wrote: > > The argument that no professional organizations or people will be > > attracted to a project without a COC is nonsense. > > LinuxCNC has succeeded brilliantly all of these years without a Code > of

Re: [Emc-users] Code of Conduct

So do you who started firstly. On Mon, 2021-07-12 at 22:39 +0200, Dr. Nikolaus Klepp wrote: > Please stop mailing me in private. > > Mailinglist CoC is not in the code nor in the forum. If the list > starts to get "funny" just change the provider. If the forum get > "strange", change it.

Re: [Emc-users] Lathe 'topslide' component

> > OK, I'll tidy it up and add some docs. It will probably take me a couple > of days to get time to do this. > Thank you Les, and please take your time :) El lun, 12 jul 2021 a las 17:17, Les Newell () escribió: > OK, I'll tidy it up and add some docs. It will probably take me a couple > of

Re: [Emc-users] 'automatically' go halfway between 2 points

OK. First of all thank you to Les and Andy. I've moved the MDI_COMMANDs from the layout2.inc that were part of the HB04 installation into the .INI file under the [HALUI] section. In the process I discovered what two of the buttons on the pendant did. (Never bothered trying them out). I now

Re: [Emc-users] 'automatically' go halfway between 2 points

Well, is there a spot where I can find some examples, of that what you > mentioned? > As the guys pointed out early, there are several simpler solutions to implement the DRO functionality you're looking for. Nevertheless you can take a look here to see some source code to have a starting point

Re: [Emc-users] Code of Conduct

So forcing CoC on all others is mature behaviour, isn't it? Nik Anno domini 2021 Mon, 12 Jul 22:12:51 +0100 Les Newell scripsit: > As I pointed out before the list admins have had the power to ban users > for a very long time. You agreed to that when you signed up. They have > of course used

Re: [Emc-users] Code of Conduct

I'm only responding to this message because Andy posted it. All the others with this subject line go direct to trash, they don't pass GO, and certainly won't collect $200. John Dammeyer > -Original Message- > From: andy pugh [mailto:bodge...@gmail.com] > Sent: July-12-21 4:42 PM >

Re: [Emc-users] Code of Conduct

Andy if you go we, will we all miss you so much! Its kinda sad actually. I also vote to going back to before this all came up. I have ignored it so far. And just played with the technical stuff. But it would be so so so sad to destroy a awesome project over this. I run my full time business

Re: [Emc-users] Code of Conduct

On Tue, 13 Jul 2021 at 00:17, Bruce Layne wrote: > I miss the peaceful > days before the Code of Conduct, when we all got along because we were > focused on the technical issues we had in common rather than being > forced to focus on the politics that divide us. Eloquently put. Recent events

Re: [Emc-users] Code of Conduct

On 7/12/21 4:27 PM, Dave Cole wrote: The argument that no professional organizations or people will be attracted to a project without a COC is nonsense. LinuxCNC has succeeded brilliantly all of these years without a Code of Conduct, and I saw nothing that necessitated a CoC.  It seems to

Re: [Emc-users] >3-axis CAM Development

2 1/2 , 3 and 4 with indexing is already part of FreeCAD/Path https://wiki.freecadweb.org/Path_Workbench https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MWFC17MIfOE I'm using C++ and Python. On 7/12/21 6:00 PM, Chris Albertson wrote: So the program would likely accept a .STEP file and produce g-code. I

Re: [Emc-users] >3-axis CAM Development

So the program would likely accept a .STEP file and produce g-code. I would start with the simpler case of 2 1/2 D machining There are two ways, X,Y raster scanning with the end mill, that is really primitive, or contour following. For counter following I think you have to convert to a

Re: [Emc-users] 'automatically' go halfway between 2 points

> > On 7/12/21 9:20 AM, Les Newell wrote: > > > It's pretty easy to do this in g-code. There is no need to get > > > involved with HAL programming. > > > Here is one way I do it on my mill. I have buttons for the following: > > > Zero X (runs code G92X0) > > > Zero Y (runs code G92Y0) > > > Zero Z

Re: [Emc-users] 'automatically' go halfway between 2 points

http://linuxcnc.org/docs/html/gcode/overview.html#sub:numbered-parameters It's a good idea to read and study this document. John Dammeyer > -Original Message- > From: R C [mailto:cjv...@gmail.com] > Sent: July-12-21 3:10 PM > To: emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net > Subject: Re:

Re: [Emc-users] 'automatically' go halfway between 2 points

Many many many years ago in the compiler writing class, my professor Chris Thomson, use to say if "in doubt, add another pass". He also stressed that in the future, unlike the limited IBM 370 with only 16MB of memory, systems would have lots of memory and so adding more passes would not be

Re: [Emc-users] 'automatically' go halfway between 2 points

On Mon, 12 Jul 2021 at 23:12, R C wrote: > what does the "#5420" do/mean? http://linuxcnc.org/docs/2.8/html/gcode/overview.html#gcode:parameters -- atp "A motorcycle is a bicycle with a pandemonium attachment and is designed for the especial use of mechanical geniuses, daredevils and

Re: [Emc-users] 'automatically' go halfway between 2 points

On 7/12/21 9:20 AM, Les Newell wrote: It's pretty easy to do this in g-code. There is no need to get involved with HAL programming. Here is one way I do it on my mill. I have buttons for the following: Zero X (runs code G92X0) Zero Y (runs code G92Y0) Zero Z (runs code G92Z0) X/2 (runs code

Re: [Emc-users] 'automatically' go halfway between 2 points

On Mon, 12 Jul 2021 at 22:55, John Dammeyer wrote: > That's so wrong on so many levels really. Either continue the previous > section or throw up a "Repeated Section" warning or error. If it knows to > ignore it then it also has the ability to do throw up an error. It doesn't actively

Re: [Emc-users] 'automatically' go halfway between 2 points

On 7/12/21 8:59 AM, Leonardo Marsaglia wrote: That was actually what I was looking for, a button "like that", and wondered if I just didn't see/find it. Yeah I can see some "convenient" functionality in that, but being able to go "half way" between two points, even with some iteration would

Re: [Emc-users] >3-axis CAM Development

For now my target is to work with FreeCAD/Path.  FreeCAD uses a geometry engine based on Open CASCADE. I'm looking at some physics engines now to handle the collision avoidance between the tools, material and work holders. I'm am also looking at being able to input factors for the tools and

Re: [Emc-users] 'automatically' go halfway between 2 points

OK. Thanks Les. I really thought that the way the HAL files and INI files were constructed that the parser just continued each section before doing the next pass to deal with the created data structures. On 2.7.14 obviously not. I moved the two MDI_COMMAND lines into the HB04 layout2.inc

Re: [Emc-users] 'automatically' go halfway between 2 points

> From: andy pugh [mailto:bodge...@gmail.com] > On Mon, 12 Jul 2021 at 22:31, Les Newell wrote: > > > Could anyone else here confirm that having two sections with the same > > name is problematic? > > Yes. Only the first section will be found. > > > -- > atp That's so wrong on so many levels

Re: [Emc-users] 'automatically' go halfway between 2 points

On Mon, 12 Jul 2021 at 22:31, Les Newell wrote: > Could anyone else here confirm that having two sections with the same > name is problematic? Yes. Only the first section will be found. -- atp "A motorcycle is a bicycle with a pandemonium attachment and is designed for the especial use of

Re: [Emc-users] 'automatically' go halfway between 2 points

Hi Andy, On 7/12/21 2:17 AM, andy pugh wrote: (Nothing quoted, as this is general info) If you have a probe, then there is a hole centre macro that ships with LinuxCNC, "probe-hole.ngc" That will work without any config changes. Well I have a simple, mechanical one, one end cylindrical, the

Re: [Emc-users] 'automatically' go halfway between 2 points

I can easily try that to see what happens. Give me a few minutes. John > -Original Message- > From: Les Newell [mailto:les.new...@fastmail.co.uk] > Sent: July-12-21 2:29 PM > To: emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net > Subject: Re: [Emc-users] 'automatically' go halfway between 2 points > >

Re: [Emc-users] OT: power, horsepower, and a bad brain

‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐ On Monday, July 12th, 2021 at 11:23 AM, Chris Albertson wrote: > Sorry I sent the message too soon.   Getting max power out of an engine means > running it at a pathological where the load is exactly matched of just one > RPM.    But youengine is over powered

Re: [Emc-users] 'automatically' go halfway between 2 points

On 7/12/21 2:03 AM, John Dammeyer wrote: The Shumatech DRO-350 just uses the same technique for circles as for squares. Move only in X direction to each edge to determine the mid-point. Then do the same for the Y axis only. Yes, it's 4 points instead of 3 for a circle but realistically

Re: [Emc-users] 'automatically' go halfway between 2 points

I took a look at the files you sent me off-list and I suspect the issue is that you have two [HALUI] sections, one in the ini file and one in layout2.inc. If you combine the two sections it will probably work. Could anyone else here confirm that having two sections with the same name is

Re: [Emc-users] >3-axis CAM Development

Hi Bari, Though I'm no expert, your goal is admirable. I would say typically I do tend to use the larger tools first when feasible (i.e. excluding situations where I might have to drill first). I try to use an adaptive tool path whenever possible too. I then move to one of many finishing

Re: [Emc-users] Code of Conduct

As I pointed out before the list admins have had the power to ban users for a very long time. You agreed to that when you signed up. They have of course used their fascist dictator powers to ... maybe ban a few spammers. Oh the injustice! If anyone here has abused their power it's you. You

[Emc-users] >3-axis CAM Development

I'm am working on creating open software for creating tool paths for 4+ axis machines. What are your approaches to machining when using 4+ axis machines? Hog out as much as possible first using the largest roughing tools first then moving to smaller? Any fine points to consider? One

Re: [Emc-users] Code of Conduct

Please stop mailing me in private. Mailinglist CoC is not in the code nor in the forum. If the list starts to get "funny" just change the provider. If the forum get "strange", change it. Sourceforge had it's share of lost userbase when they tried monetarizing the community - didn't turn out

Re: [Emc-users] Code of Conduct

Some people like being told what to do and what to think. They find it soothing. Some on the list might even be racists, sexists, communists, capitalists, hedonists or even put ketchup on hot dogs. With the CoC some of these people will sleep better at night. "Project leaders are

Re: [Emc-users] Code of Conduct

Could someone please point out why this COC is even an issue? If we already agreed to some terms, why is  a COC being layered on top of that? Seeing people pack their bags over a proposal, seems like a bad idea. The argument that no professional organizations or people will be attracted to a

Re: [Emc-users] 'automatically' go halfway between 2 points

Could you post your inc and ini files. Hopefully that way I can see what is going on. Les On 12/07/2021 18:43, John Dammeyer wrote: I uncommented them but they don't show up in the hal config. Only the first 16 from 00 to 15 from the pendant.m Just went out to the shop and checked that

Re: [Emc-users] Lathe 'topslide' component

OK, I'll tidy it up and add some docs. It will probably take me a couple of days to get time to do this. Les On 12/07/2021 18:43, John Dammeyer wrote: I'm very interested. Eventually the BeagleBone with MachineKIt was to be on the Gingery Lathe. Project #42. But I like that idea of

Re: [Emc-users] 'automatically' go halfway between 2 points

John I have it working with glade vcp its awesome and easy. My 12 year old brother was making buttons. I can share a config if you want On Tue, Jul 13, 2021, 4:37 AM John Dammeyer wrote: > Can you post the code that creates the buttons? I think that's the main > issue here. As mentioned

Re: [Emc-users] G28 behaviour

In 1979 the Dynamic Machinery Sales Chicago class for a Miyano 7BC lathe with Fanuc 5T control taught me to use G91 G28 X0 Z0 at the end of every program to make sure the machine reference was always accurate. I can't tell you how many times I watched the reference lights come on in the next six

Re: [Emc-users] Code of Conduct

That's exactly why policemen and theit CoC are unbearable. Nik Anno domini 2021 Mon, 12 Jul 20:14:42 +0200 Valerio Bellizzomi scripsit: > Since you are unable to accept such a mild restrictive form, I think I > suspect what kind of person you are, so I'm glad you're leaving. > > > > On

Re: [Emc-users] Lathe 'topslide' component

Interested! Sometimes I need to chamfer manually on the Mazak and It's a lot more convenient than using a file. El lun, 12 jul 2021 a las 14:46, John Dammeyer () escribió: > I'm very interested. Eventually the BeagleBone with MachineKIt was to be > on the Gingery Lathe. Project #42. But I

Re: [Emc-users] Lathe 'topslide' component

I'm interested, thanks Les Rob / Robertspark On Mon, 12 Jul 2021, 18:08 Les Newell, wrote: > A while back I wrote a component for a simulated top slide for lathes > with dual MPGs. It allows you to enter an angle and remap the X axis MPG > to move both axes simultaneously at that angle. I use

Re: [Emc-users] Lathe 'topslide' component

I'm very interested. Eventually the BeagleBone with MachineKIt was to be on the Gingery Lathe. Project #42. But I like that idea of compound slide simulation without having a compound or not having to turn it just to do a chamfer cut. John > -Original Message- > From: Les Newell

Re: [Emc-users] 'automatically' go halfway between 2 points

I uncommented them but they don't show up in the hal config. Only the first 16 from 00 to 15 from the pendant.m Just went out to the shop and checked that again. Looking at the expanded ini the #INCLUDE layout2.inc is at the front of the ini file. It's there so that the hard coded pendant

Re: [Emc-users] Code of Conduct

Well, dear friends, as the CoC policemen with their CoC are more important than any thing I decided to pull the plug and took my remasters offline. You can read more about it here:

Re: [Emc-users] Code of Conduct

On Mon, 2021-07-12 at 18:15 +0100, Les Newell wrote: > You do know you agreed to a much more restrictive CoC when you > joined > this mailing list, don't you? Here is the full agreement: > > This is linked from the EMC-users subscription form >

Re: [Emc-users] Code of Conduct

You do know you agreed to a much more restrictive CoC when you joined this mailing list, don't you? Here is the full agreement: This is linked from the EMC-users subscription form If you agreed to

[Emc-users] Lathe 'topslide' component

A while back I wrote a component for a simulated top slide for lathes with dual MPGs. It allows you to enter an angle and remap the X axis MPG to move both axes simultaneously at that angle. I use it quite a bit for chamfering. At the press of a button I can swap from normal X-Z to X moving

Re: [Emc-users] 'automatically' go halfway between 2 points

My issue was I have the HB04 Pendant I had one of those on my router. The MPG died shortly after I received it so I ended up throwing it in a corner in disgust. I'd recommend feeding the MPG though a low pass filter component (ilowpass would work), otherwise motion gets pretty jerky. I

Re: [Emc-users] 'automatically' go halfway between 2 points

Can you post the code that creates the buttons? I think that's the main issue here. As mentioned before, there are all sorts of G-Code subroutines in the nc_files folder but getting away from using the 'command line' so to speak is the general idea. My issue was I have the HB04 Pendant. I

Re: [Emc-users] OT: power, horsepower, and a bad brain

Sorry I sent the message too soon. Getting max power out of an engine means running it at a pathological where the load is exactly matched of just one RPM.But youengine is over powered as it should be so you only need to run a wide open throttle at any RPM where thecurve is able 3.5 (or

[Emc-users] center of circle

https://math.stackexchange.com/questions/213658/get-the-equation-of-a-circle-when-given-3-points ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users

Re: [Emc-users] OT: power, horsepower, and a bad brain

The 6.5 rating on that engine is at "wide open throttle" at the RPM tha produces peak power. I don't know the power curve of that engine but its peak power speed is likely faster than you want to listen to, 6,000 RPM maybe.Your first step is to use the correct pulley ratio to let the engine

Re: [Emc-users] 'automatically' go halfway between 2 points

It's pretty easy to do this in g-code. There is no need to get involved with HAL programming. Here is one way I do it on my mill. I have buttons for the following: Zero X (runs code G92X0) Zero Y (runs code G92Y0) Zero Z (runs code G92Z0) X/2 (runs code G92X[#5420 / 2]) Y/2 (runs code G92X[#5421

Re: [Emc-users] 'automatically' go halfway between 2 points

> > That was actually what I was looking for, a button "like that", and > wondered if I just didn't see/find it. > > Yeah I can see some "convenient" functionality in that, but being able > to go "half way" between two points, even with some iteration would > help, to get that started > > (It

Re: [Emc-users] OT: power, horsepower, and a bad brain

Hi, Alternators like to be spun fast. Max rpm 10K but 6Krpm is a good place to operate. It is easy to damage pb-acid batteries while charging. See https://www.solar-electric.com/lib/wind-sun/Iota-charging-deep-cycle-batteries.pdf There are better guides on the web but this is the first one

Re: [Emc-users] OT: power, horsepower, and a bad brain

On Sunday, June 27th, 2021 at 6:41 AM, fxkl47BF wrote: > i'm gonna explain my screwup here because this group of folks has a very > diverse range of expertise. enough kiss'n up. if you know of a list that > would be more appropriate please let me know. > i've had a desire for some time to

Re: [Emc-users] Setting tool heights

For those that are interested This is accurate to 0.005mm and works fine. I have three of them. US $44.94 30%OFF | Z Axis Zero Setter with a Table Zero Setting Gauge for CNC Machine 50 +/- 0.005Mm Z Axis Tool Length Setter https://a.aliexpress.com/_mOdQ9RN On Sun, Jul 11, 2021, 9:50 PM Les

Re: [Emc-users] 'automatically' go halfway between 2 points

(Nothing quoted, as this is general info) If you have a probe, then there is a hole centre macro that ships with LinuxCNC, "probe-hole.ngc" That will work without any config changes. There is a fairly complete set of probe routines included in the distribution which are included in the QTDragon

Re: [Emc-users] Code of Conduct

Good day, Please let's finish this topic, it's been taking 50% space. CNC discussion isn't COC, for the most part. Many people are not interested in COC discuss any longer. Thanks for understanding Jean-François Le 12/07/2021 à 10:04, Dr. Nikolaus Klepp a écrit : Anno domini 2021 Mon,

Re: [Emc-users] Code of Conduct

Anno domini 2021 Mon, 12 Jul 09:23:15 +0200 jeanfrancois scripsit: > Hi, > > Can we end this topic please ? Can we remove CoC? No? So why end this debate? Nik > > Thank you, > > Jean-François > > Le 12/07/2021 à 09:19, Valerio Bellizzomi a écrit : > > Your trollish behavior is exactly

Re: [Emc-users] Code of Conduct

Anno domini 2021 Mon, 12 Jul 09:19:13 +0200 Valerio Bellizzomi scripsit: > Your trollish behavior is exactly what a CoC is sensed to eradicate > from professional communities. > Tha's why you exercise such violent opposition. You don't realise that forcing CoC on others is exactly what's the

Re: [Emc-users] 'automatically' go halfway between 2 points

The Shumatech DRO-350 just uses the same technique for circles as for squares. Move only in X direction to each edge to determine the mid-point. Then do the same for the Y axis only. Yes, it's 4 points instead of 3 for a circle but realistically is easier to understand even if it's not as

Re: [Emc-users] Code of Conduct

On Monday 12 July 2021 00:25:43 dva...@internode.on.net wrote: > - Original Message - > From: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)" > To: > Cc: > Sent:Tue, 29 Jun 2021 17:07:55 -0600 > Subject:Re: [Emc-users] Code of Conduct > > On 6/29/21 RC wrote: > Also, I changed my mind  .. > >

Re: [Emc-users] Code of Conduct

agreeing totally. On Mon, 2021-07-12 at 09:23 +0200, jeanfrancois wrote: > Hi, > > Can we end this topic please ? > > Thank you, > > Jean-François > > Le 12/07/2021 à 09:19, Valerio Bellizzomi a écrit : > > Your trollish behavior is exactly what a CoC is sensed to eradicate > > from

Re: [Emc-users] Code of Conduct

Hi, Can we end this topic please ? Thank you, Jean-François Le 12/07/2021 à 09:19, Valerio Bellizzomi a écrit : Your trollish behavior is exactly what a CoC is sensed to eradicate from professional communities. Tha's why you exercise such violent opposition. On Mon, 2021-07-12 at 01:12

Re: [Emc-users] Code of Conduct

Your trollish behavior is exactly what a CoC is sensed to eradicate from professional communities. Tha's why you exercise such violent opposition. On Mon, 2021-07-12 at 01:12 -0600, R C wrote: > because you don't have a point. Other than the Mussolini one. > > On 7/12/21 1:08 AM, Valerio

Re: [Emc-users] Code of Conduct

because you don't have a point. Other than the Mussolini one. On 7/12/21 1:08 AM, Valerio Bellizzomi wrote: I don't really want to talk with a troll like you. Communication terminated. On Mon, 2021-07-12 at 00:10 -0600, R C wrote: On 7/11/21 11:45 PM, Valerio Bellizzomi wrote: Nobody

[Emc-users] [Fwd: Re: Code of Conduct]

Forwarded Message From: R C To: Valerio Bellizzomi Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Code of Conduct Date: Mon, 12 Jul 2021 00:10:12 -0600 Mailer: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:78.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/78.11.0 > On 7/11/21 11:45 PM, Valerio Bellizzomi wrote: > > Nobody

Re: [Emc-users] 'automatically' go halfway between 2 points

correct, If you draw 2, different, triangles like that, with their corners on a circle, their hypotenuses intersect in the center of that circle. also the middle of these hypotenuses, of each triangle, would be the center, hence, that is why I was interested in finding  the "half way point"