Re: [Emc-users] Running PathPilot on non-Tormach Machines

2023-01-26 Thread Gregg Eshelman via Emc-users
Windows has had a Hardware Abstraction Layer and Application Programming Interface for a long time, the objective is to make it much easier for hardware companies to interface their hardware with the software. A manufacturer of a device like a 4th axis could provide the software required to

Re: [Emc-users] Running PathPilot on non-Tormach Machines

2023-01-26 Thread Chris Albertson
On Thu, Jan 26, 2023 at 6:11 PM John Dammeyer wrote: > > From: Chris Albertson [mailto:albertson.ch...@gmail.com] > > > > On Thu, Jan 26, 2023 at 5:03 PM John Dammeyer > > wrote: > > > > > > > > I should probably buy another high speed 16GB or 32GB MicroSD in prep > for > > > creating a 2.9

Re: [Emc-users] Running PathPilot on non-Tormach Machines

2023-01-26 Thread gene heskett
On 1/26/23 20:01, John Dammeyer wrote: So at the moment this is where I sit with the Pi4B (1GB) on the lab bench. http://www.autoartisans.com/mill/Pi4-LinuxCNC-hardware.jpg The Chinese BoB is at the top left. The other two BoBs are ones I had kicking around. The board in the yellow box takes

Re: [Emc-users] Running PathPilot on non-Tormach Machines

2023-01-26 Thread John Dammeyer
> From: Chris Albertson [mailto:albertson.ch...@gmail.com] > > On Thu, Jan 26, 2023 at 5:03 PM John Dammeyer > wrote: > > > > > I should probably buy another high speed 16GB or 32GB MicroSD in prep for > > creating a 2.9 system that runs Path Pilot. > > > > Skip the SD card. Pi4 runs faster

Re: [Emc-users] custom m codes tutorial and cnc lathe bar pulling

2023-01-26 Thread gene heskett
On 1/26/23 16:42, andrew beck wrote: hey guys just wanted to let people know i just made a tutorial on custom m codes and i couldn't find much info on it and wanted to help the next guy and remind myself when i forget next time lol

Re: [Emc-users] Running PathPilot on non-Tormach Machines

2023-01-26 Thread Chris Albertson
On Thu, Jan 26, 2023 at 5:03 PM John Dammeyer wrote: > > I should probably buy another high speed 16GB or 32GB MicroSD in prep for > creating a 2.9 system that runs Path Pilot. > Skip the SD card. Pi4 runs faster with a USB3 SSD.This used to be an expensive luxury but now if you have a

Re: [Emc-users] Running PathPilot on non-Tormach Machines

2023-01-26 Thread John Dammeyer
So at the moment this is where I sit with the Pi4B (1GB) on the lab bench. http://www.autoartisans.com/mill/Pi4-LinuxCNC-hardware.jpg The Chinese BoB is at the top left. The other two BoBs are ones I had kicking around. The board in the yellow box takes TTL step/dir/enable and Fault and

Re: [Emc-users] custom m codes tutorial and cnc lathe bar pulling

2023-01-26 Thread Ed
On 1/26/23 2:57 PM, andrew beck wrote: hey guys and also if any of you machinists have good tips for bar pulling on a cnc lathe i would love the ideas i have never done it before regards Andrew How big of bar do you want to pull? What kind of machine I have run runs of over 1K pieces

Re: [Emc-users] Running PathPilot on non-Tormach Machines

2023-01-26 Thread rehenry
> On 1/26/23 13:43, rehe...@fast-air.net wrote: >> >> The HIWIN AC drive manual mentioned recently in another thread begins >> with >> a couple fascinating cautions. >> >> * Do not dismantle or modify the product. >> >> * Before installing or using the product, check the external appearance. >> >>

Re: [Emc-users] Running PathPilot on non-Tormach Machines

2023-01-26 Thread John Dammeyer
Hi Chris, I've book marked your posting. https://forum.linuxcnc.org/pathpilot/45286-pathpilot-v2-source-code?start=30 Looking forward to see if you get a link to the code. John > -Original Message- > From: Chris Albertson [mailto:albertson.ch...@gmail.com] > Sent: January-25-23 2:11 PM >

[Emc-users] custom m codes tutorial and cnc lathe bar pulling

2023-01-26 Thread andrew beck
hey guys just wanted to let people know i just made a tutorial on custom m codes and i couldn't find much info on it and wanted to help the next guy and remind myself when i forget next time lol

Re: [Emc-users] Running PathPilot on non-Tormach Machines

2023-01-26 Thread gene heskett
On 1/26/23 13:43, rehe...@fast-air.net wrote: The HIWIN AC drive manual mentioned recently in another thread begins with a couple fascinating cautions. * Do not dismantle or modify the product. * Before installing or using the product, check the external appearance. * Do not try to repair

Re: [Emc-users] Running PathPilot on non-Tormach Machines

2023-01-26 Thread John Dammeyer
And another addendum. https://forum.linuxcnc.org/9-installing-linuxcnc/47796-install-rt-kernel-and-linuxcnc-2-9-on-rpi4#260565 > -Original Message- > From: John Dammeyer [mailto:jo...@autoartisans.com] > Sent: January-26-23 10:41 AM > To: 'Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)' > Subject:

Re: [Emc-users] CNC Shaper Project

2023-01-26 Thread Matthew Herd
> > I don't think that there is much benefit in servo-ing this element of > the machine. > I would suggest that a simple (long) flag on the bull gear could be > used to determine if the machine is on the cut or return stroke, with > feed-hold asserted during the cut stroke. Otherwise you might as

Re: [Emc-users] Running PathPilot on non-Tormach Machines

2023-01-26 Thread John Dammeyer
Just an addendum. Likely Peter at MESA can create a different 7i92 file that fills the need for the Chinese BoB. Here's a comment that is inside my Pi4 MESA hal file. Note I identify the .pin file for the MESA. Note too that there is no secondary function on pin 1 which is configured as an

Re: [Emc-users] Running PathPilot on non-Tormach Machines

2023-01-26 Thread Bari
How many CNC machine startup's have there been in the past few years? Maybe a handful in some niche markets? The vendors in China offer the popular CNC controllers that we all are accustomed to or use ARM controllers similar to NVEM. There have been several additive manufacturing start ups in

Re: [Emc-users] Running PathPilot on non-Tormach Machines

2023-01-26 Thread John Dammeyer
I have LCNC running on a Pi4 with the wired Ethernet to the 7i92H to two different BoBs. One of them, the Chinese one, will have an identical friend in a month or so. (assuming it ever arrives). That's the BoB I reverse engineered and for which I now have a schematic. The reason it was easy

Re: [Emc-users] Running PathPilot on non-Tormach Machines

2023-01-26 Thread rehenry
The HIWIN AC drive manual mentioned recently in another thread begins with a couple fascinating cautions. * Do not dismantle or modify the product. * Before installing or using the product, check the external appearance. * Do not try to repair any product malfunctions. If we applied this

Re: [Emc-users] Running PathPilot on non-Tormach Machines

2023-01-26 Thread dave engvall
Different strokes for different people. Tormach supplies a niche market and is surviving. :-) I went the other way and bought a machine with a dead control at auction. Trucked it in, shoved it thru the door of my shop and then spent the next year getting it running, New servo amps, servo-to-go

Re: [Emc-users] CNC Shaper Project

2023-01-26 Thread andy pugh
On Thu, 26 Jan 2023 at 15:26, Matthew Herd wrote: > The general concept is to put an encoder on the bull gear (which has fixed > timing with respect to the stroke of the ram), use a large servo as the > drive motor (although a VFD & 3 phase motor would also work, but this > allows easy

Re: [Emc-users] Servo motor in step mode reaches position after LCNC

2023-01-26 Thread Eric Keller
On Tue, Jan 24, 2023 at 10:43 AM Leonardo Marsaglia wrote: > My brother is changing some stepper motors to servos from a machine with > LCNC 2.4.3 and a mesa 5i20. The servos are D2 model from Hiwin. > > The problem he's having is that, in rapid movements, after LCNC completes > its motion the

Re: [Emc-users] Running PathPilot on non-Tormach Machines

2023-01-26 Thread ken.strauss
Nor do I! That is why I sent a pile of cash to Tormach instead of trying to roll my own. It just works and allows me to make chips without worrying about editing files or applying updates that break things or... Others obviously favour different choices! -Original Message- From: Stuart

Re: [Emc-users] Running PathPilot on non-Tormach Machines

2023-01-26 Thread Stuart Stevenson
"Define a set of hardware that works and make their own distribution with only one user interface. It doesn't surprise me that nobody wants to do this thankless task." Perhaps thankless but Tormach has built a presumably profitable business by doing exactly that. And then packaging and selling

Re: [Emc-users] Running PathPilot on non-Tormach Machines

2023-01-26 Thread ken.strauss
"Define a set of hardware that works and make their own distribution with only one user interface. It doesn't surprise me that nobody wants to do this thankless task." Perhaps thankless but Tormach has built a presumably profitable business by doing exactly that. -Original Message-

[Emc-users] CNC Shaper Project

2023-01-26 Thread Matthew Herd
Hi all, I have been pondering a possible CNC shaper project for a while now. I have some chinese AC servos lying around and have pondered CNC on my little Atlas 7B metal shaper. I have a production application for this, so it's not entirely a fanciful project. The current solution involves CNC

Re: [Emc-users] Running PathPilot on non-Tormach Machines

2023-01-26 Thread Eric Keller
On Thu, Jan 26, 2023 at 8:24 AM wrote: > To me this is the minimum level of magic required to make a commercially > viable product. The vast majority of potential users are uncomfortable (or > don't want to bother) with manually modifying configuration files. Of course > the power of LinuxCNC is

Re: [Emc-users] Running PathPilot on non-Tormach Machines

2023-01-26 Thread ken.strauss
Yes, my Tormach shipped with Mach3. The Mach3 configuration was "locked" so you couldn't make any changes. -Original Message- From: Martin Dobbins Sent: January 26, 2023 9:29 AM To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Running PathPilot on non-Tormach Machines I

Re: [Emc-users] Running PathPilot on non-Tormach Machines

2023-01-26 Thread Martin Dobbins
I remember when Tormach started, they were supplying cnc machines loaded with Mach 3, they decided to go a different route as their product range increased. To quote part of their description: "If it's available, it's included. We eliminated the headaches of costly upgrades or a al carte

Re: [Emc-users] Running PathPilot on non-Tormach Machines

2023-01-26 Thread ken.strauss
Pathpilot is a single bootable image for a variety of Tormach hardware -- at least 6 traditional CNC mills, a CNC router and at least 3 CNC lathes (not all current products). It also support 3 different MESA boards, two different ATC, two different 4th axis, two different probes, touch and