Re: [Emc-users] Beam Stiffening?

2024-05-14 Thread Chris Albertson
I think I fell for the “beam is bending” idea too. It might be. The way to find out is to measure the beam center with the dial indicator and then measure the ends of the beam. It might be that the entire beam is moving Is the gantry belt driven? Long belts can act like springs. The

Re: [Emc-users] Beam Stiffening?

2024-05-14 Thread gene heskett
On 5/14/24 14:34, Eric Keller wrote: Do something cheap because I'm not convinced it's the beam. I've done troubleshooting on things like this, and sometimes it's stiffness and sometimes it's not stiffness. But it really doesn't make sense that it would sit there and ring after a move, so you

Re: [Emc-users] Beam Stiffening?

2024-05-14 Thread Dave Engvall
This is why I’m a chemist not an engineer. So how does it break out cost vs results, not exactly the same as weight. Even tho it is not an aircraft app working towards lightness may make sense. Thanks for the elucidation. Really happy it is not my problem. ;-) A Boeing engineer once commented

Re: [Emc-users] Beam Stiffening?

2024-05-14 Thread Eric Keller
Do something cheap because I'm not convinced it's the beam. I've done troubleshooting on things like this, and sometimes it's stiffness and sometimes it's not stiffness. But it really doesn't make sense that it would sit there and ring after a move, so you also may have some tuning to do.

Re: [Emc-users] Beam Stiffening?

2024-05-14 Thread Dave Engvall
Hi all, Since I’m cheap I’d prototype with a fiberglass tube and fill with urethane foam. How much does the modulus change between a rectangular tube and elliptical geometry? Box with corner braces that are viscous damped. It all comes down to load and frequencies. I’m just the aging dummy in

Re: [Emc-users] Beam Stiffening?

2024-05-14 Thread Chris Albertson
This kind of design “works” only if you make the overall dimension MUCH larger. It is an overall more efficient design but bmovimng material does not add streght of stiffness. You would need to do something like scale the beam up to maybe twice its size then cut away half the metal. The

Re: [Emc-users] Beam Stiffening?

2024-05-14 Thread Gregg Eshelman via Emc-users
A triangular tube with an isogrid pattern cut into it to reduce mass without sacrificing stiffness. Could have it laser cut with slots on the fold lines to make it easy for a sheet metal break to fold accurately. The design could have tabs and slots to interlock on the joining edge. Then TIG